yes, these Brittons with all their tax evasion islands. their London bankers cheated entire societies. With their channel islands, or panama, or cayman islands, ...
I have nothing against English, just that corrupt elite.
sands88: Six days away from a defining moment for the Brexit the Brits will vote for......
. It got too big, when it was Benelux it was ok, it started as "The Common Market", Western Europe has nothing to do with Romania, Spain, Portugal, none of these should have been allowed in to steal money so that they could raise their standards and after give the rest a one fingered wave.
I believe for some countries to stay in the EU is vital for their independence ie: Latvia,Lithuania,Estonia,Poland,Romania,Hungry,Czech Republic, and any former USSR satellites I left out. I don't trust Russia as Putin has said on numerous occasions that these satellite countries leaving the USSR was the greatest crime of the 20th century.
As far as the rest of the EU, I believe that the diversities in culture, linguistic diversity and the various safeguards are (were) just too enormous to overcome. Think about it you can have 5 people in the room and get 6 different ideas. We're talking 28 in the room with all different missions and agenda's. If the EU loses Britain I hope it's not a domino affect. Keeping Putin out is paramount in my eyes, but controlling the muslims is another crisis. I would wish for the Brits to exit and get their country back under control. I fear Sharia Law is beating on the door.....
sands88: Six days away from a defining moment for the Brexit the Brits will vote for......
sands88: I believe for some countries to stay in the EU is vital for their independence ie: Latvia,Lithuania,Estonia,Poland,Romania,Hungry,Czech Republic, and any former USSR satellites I left out. I don't trust Russia as Putin has said on numerous occasions that these satellite countries leaving the USSR was the greatest crime of the 20th century.
As far as the rest of the EU, I believe that the diversities in culture, linguistic diversity and the various safeguards are (were) just too enormous to overcome. Think about it you can have 5 people in the room and get 6 different ideas. We're talking 28 in the room with all different missions and agenda's. If the EU loses Britain I hope it's not a domino affect. Keeping Putin out is paramount in my eyes, but controlling the muslims is another crisis. I would wish for the Brits to exit and get their country back under control. I fear Sharia Law is beating on the door.....
Basically I agree but on a personal level, let England sink . That would not really affect us in Europe other than not having them meddle in continental affairs in which they have said many times in modern history, that they want nothing to do with European affairs. Europe needs to again get all of its houses in order and unite where there are common dangers to our cultures and peoples against all threats by any outsiders or those inside that seek to destroy in any way our cultures. We love our diversities and our rights to have them. We have defended those rights before and we can unite to defend our ways of life again. A threat against one is the threat against all of us. I would say that the prospects for any form of this un- European/ anti- European Sharia Law is overly exaggerated. We act still have as our last resort our armed forces should that eventually become necessary to intervene. This should become a priority to negotiate between all European nations asap for our mutual benefit as a people distinctly European. Several Moslem countries have rejected Sharia laws along with veils, burkas, etc. in favour of justice systems similar to Europe. And jeans and make-up over burkas and veils are preferred. Many Moslems regard Sharia as not only absurd but totally out of time with the modern world as it is rather than to re- create more primitive times and circumstances. There is no going back to what was once and what was still wrong then in so many ways against so many.
Yes WE MUST get our Rights to make our own laws and our sovereignty back and negotiate trade and exports with the whole world not just 30 -40% and have small businesses be restricted in obtaining the legal right to trade before we can via enforced paperwork taking months rather than days to grant permission so we lose business and working people when the small companies cease trading. That is the situation.
We Must refuse to be told what we must do by three chambers of un-elected dictatorial parasites that are gradually becoming Far right Fascist politicized with all their countries seeking a Federal One country called Europe and whet is even worse only One combined military Force. OUT OUT OUT
Kat, take a look at the video Stringman just posted. Don't be fooled that the muslims are going to look after your best interest.
“We hear about assimilation as if it’s Americans’ fault that Muslims can’t assimilate or won’t,” he said. “But it’s not our fault. They have to make the choice to assimilate. But they are taught it’s an abrogation or violation of Shariah law to assimilate to a non-Islamic culture. They’re not here to assimilate."
That says it all to me...very clear, very concise....
sands88: Kat, take a look at the video Stringman just posted. Don't be fooled that the muslims are going to look after your best interest.
“We hear about assimilation as if it’s Americans’ fault that Muslims can’t assimilate or won’t,” he said. “But it’s not our fault. They have to make the choice to assimilate. But they are taught it’s an abrogation or violation of Shariah law to assimilate to a non-Islamic culture. They’re not here to assimilate."
That says it all to me...very clear, very concise....
In the end...the very end of us versus any type of assimilation, whether by weak-minded politicians and 'extra liberals' seeking compromises at any cost, there is the as yet independent military. Should they be compromised in any fashion , the final resort is the rise of those who will say .'enough, no compromise' and resort to the gun. We still make more ammunitions than there are Muslims, or Americans or even Russian troops. We have an obligation to fight and survive for each other for our own and our collective future under any and at all costs. Our ancestors may have had to withdraw from the Holy Land but we can't withdraw from our own lands of Europe. If an enemy of Europe can't or won't recognize that, then they can join the others who had tried before, be they Muslim or Mongols. Our societies are by no means all weak kneed, limp wristed pacifists celebrating the inclusion of "gay rights", certainly not our combat troops , recently finished with their cycles of combat in the Middle East in which all the European forces(with the sole exception of the Swiss armed forces) took part and will be updating and training the newer forces now. Conscription still remains as an for any 'emergency'. Perhaps we need this possible storm to finally assert our collective selves again, we haven't had an all pan European armed force since the last war. But the irony is there as tens of thousands of volunteers that fought with ours against the Soviets were Muslim and the thousands of Europeans that had to flee the Soviets as well as their US allies, Syria was the one country in the Middle East that gave them sanctuary; an extra dose of irony.
Kattte: Basically I agree but on a personal level, let England sink . That would not really affect us in Europe other than not having them meddle in continental affairs in which they have said many times in modern history, that they want nothing to do with European affairs. Europe needs to again get all of its houses in order and unite where there are common dangers to our cultures and peoples against all threats by any outsiders or those inside that seek to destroy in any way our cultures. We love our diversities and our rights to have them. We have defended those rights before and we can unite to defend our ways of life again. A threat against one is the threat against all of us. I would say that the prospects for any form of this un- European/ anti- European Sharia Law is overly exaggerated. We act still have as our last resort our armed forces should that eventually become necessary to intervene. This should become a priority to negotiate between all European nations asap for our mutual benefit as a people distinctly European. Several Moslem countries have rejected Sharia laws along with veils, burkas, etc. in favour of justice systems similar to Europe. And jeans and make-up over burkas and veils are preferred. Many Moslems regard Sharia as not only absurd but totally out of time with the modern world as it is rather than to re- create more primitive times and circumstances. There is no going back to what was once and what was still wrong then in so many ways against so many.
I am not sure what your sources are when all the evidence points to the contrary - have you checked the Pew institute's surveys on the attitudes of muslims worldwide.
I am also not sure how you can still think there is no going back when certain things have been moved back in Europe for example - all in the name of political correctness. With the number of muslims rising of course there is a very good chance that they could use democratic means to abolish democracy - i.e. without any violence.
The NWO/globalism favouring non-homogenous societies, with the elites controlling the media, the economy, the police, the military, there is no way of defending our national interests - or there will be no way unless something is done very soon!
Not sure what will happen in Northern Ireland if the UK votes to leave, looks like there will be border checks back again between them and us and a lot of paperwork to fill out when transporting goods over the border.
GalwayGuy35: Not sure what will happen in Northern Ireland if the UK votes to leave, looks like there will be border checks back again between them and us and a lot of paperwork to fill out when transporting goods over the border.
. At least you remember it so it will be easier to go back to the old ways.
TheRedSquirrel87Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK1,107 posts
Kattte: Basically I agree but on a personal level, let England sink . That would not really affect us in Europe other than not having them meddle in continental affairs in which they have said many times in modern history, that they want nothing to do with European affairs. Europe needs to again get all of its houses in order and unite where there are common dangers to our cultures and peoples against all threats by any outsiders or those inside that seek to destroy in any way our cultures. We love our diversities and our rights to have them. We have defended those rights before and we can unite to defend our ways of life again. A threat against one is the threat against all of us. I would say that the prospects for any form of this un- European/ anti- European Sharia Law is overly exaggerated. We act still have as our last resort our armed forces should that eventually become necessary to intervene. This should become a priority to negotiate between all European nations asap for our mutual benefit as a people distinctly European. Several Moslem countries have rejected Sharia laws along with veils, burkas, etc. in favour of justice systems similar to Europe. And jeans and make-up over burkas and veils are preferred. Many Moslems regard Sharia as not only absurd but totally out of time with the modern world as it is rather than to re- create more primitive times and circumstances. There is no going back to what was once and what was still wrong then in so many ways against so many.
I doubt we'd send the tanks in until Islam interferes with the penthouse class. Before this time we have chavs, football fans, and an entire range of head the balls waiting in the wings. Before the army we have the people's army and the righteous fury of the common man.
The referendum is not binding?????? Can you see the Parliament deciding contrary to the will of the people expressed in the referendum?
I keep on thinking that the outcome has already been decided by the powers that be - the EU will not let you leave, either the results will be fake, or the Parliament will decide the UK will stay in the EU in any case.
Capricorn143: The referendum is not binding?????? Can you see the Parliament deciding contrary to the will of the people expressed in the referendum?
I keep on thinking that the outcome has already been decided by the powers that be - the EU will not let you leave, either the results will be fake, or the Parliament will decide the UK will stay in the EU in any case.
123whisperMelbourne, Victoria Australia2,116 posts
Capricorn143: The referendum is not binding?????? Can you see the Parliament deciding contrary to the will of the people expressed in the referendum?
I keep on thinking that the outcome has already been decided by the powers that be - the EU will not let you leave, either the results will be fake, or the Parliament will decide the UK will stay in the EU in any case.
yubba: Not sure what Planet you originate from but your post is to say that after a false election there will be civil war in the UK.
She could be right here where I live especially if the EU Forces us to join an EU Defence force being proposed now by the EU's far right National socialist and fascist countries. It has been mooted by Merkel and otherheads of state in Europe for the last decade so - That alone for me is a reason to say NO
MikeD12: She could be right here where I live especially if the EU Forces us to join an EU Defence force being proposed now by the EU's far right National socialist and fascist countries. It has been mooted by Merkel and otherheads of state in Europe for the last decade so - That alone for me is a reason to say NO
. Knowing English people, knowing what has happened in the past, how, for example people reacted to the poll tax riots and many other things l think that it would create the biggest riot ever if the government was in false numbers with this election, if the numbers were 49% and 51% that 49% would include some of the roughest that you could find in the UK, the people opting for the stay in are totally different in UK standing. Andrew Marr seems to have a different take on it now too.
Jun 19, 2016 7:16 AM CST Should Britain leave the EU?
adventure4upinehurst nc, North Carolina USA75 Posts
adventure4upinehurst nc, North Carolina USA75 posts
TheRedSquirrel87: I doubt we'd send the tanks in until Islam interferes with the penthouse class. Before this time we have chavs, football fans, and an entire range of head the balls waiting in the wings. Before the army we have the people's army and the righteous fury of the common man.
Jun 19, 2016 7:20 AM CST Should Britain leave the EU?
adventure4upinehurst nc, North Carolina USA75 Posts
adventure4upinehurst nc, North Carolina USA75 posts
35 percent of GERMANS want OUT of the EU, tey are tired of funding the entire EU and Germany IS the EU. In USA we call the EU "Germany and Friennds" we know who runs annd funds the whole rotten thing
yubba: Not sure what Planet you originate from but your post is to say that after a false election there will be civil war in the UK.
Not sure what your reading skills are - but I never said anything like that!
And no, I do not think there will be a civil war no matter what the result is - the Europeans are too self indulgent to be able to fight for a cause, not anymore.
Capricorn143: Not sure what your reading skills are - but I never said anything like that!
And no, I do not think there will be a civil war no matter what the result is - the Europeans are too self indulgent to be able to fight for a cause, not anymore.
And my question after finding out that the referendum is not binding was: can you see your parliament go against the will of the people?
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