Is love enough? (155)
I have heard this more than one time in the past, to tell the truth I have had a little bad luck I have always been able to pay my bill's but I have not made the big bucks, when I was married I always managed to put food on the table, when in a relationship I am caring creative and honest, the last girl I dated in dropping me read off all my good traits but said that it was not enough, she said she thought at my age I should be further along, this sucks because I do get by, I'm not a bum, I have my own house and car while after paying my bills I might have 50 bucks left over but atleast I pay my bills. are all women this materialistic?
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I love how men get nice options and women have the option of being shallow and materialistic.
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mortalez: I have heard this more than one time in the past, to tell the truth I have had a little bad luck I have always been able to pay my bill's but I have not made the big bucks, when I was married I always managed to put food on the table, when in a relationship I am caring creative and honest, the last girl I dated in dropping me read off all my good traits but said that it was not enough, she said she thought at my age I should be further along, this sucks because I do get by, I'm not a bum, I have my own house and car while after paying my bills I might have 50 bucks left over but atleast I pay my bills. are all women this materialistic?
What about women who pay their own way, pay their own bills, own their own home and have 50 euros left at the end of every month?
I know you have had some bad luck, this is clear, and you are hurting. But honestly?
This poll sucks.
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Sommerauer71: I love how men get nice options and women have the option of being shallow and materialistic.
women also get the option of being caring and loving.
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Sommerauer71: What about women who pay their own way, pay their own bills, own their own home and have 50 euros left at the end of every month?
I know you have had some bad luck, this is clear, and you are hurting. But honestly?
This poll sucks.
I know you have had some bad luck, this is clear, and you are hurting. But honestly?
This poll sucks.
Well I for one can care less about a womans monetary situation.
and for that matter I know many men who are very successfull who MARRIED women who had low wage jobs, but only know of ONE successful women who is married to a low income guy and she was with him when they were both broke.
My point being this seems to be an issue that negatively effects men more than women, yes there are a few guys shallow in that regard but there the exception to the rule.
when i was working as a bartender I used to sometimes play match maker, well almost everytime I would set up a blind date I would hear the same question.
The guy would ask " what does she look like "
the woman would ask " what does he do for a living. "
I start calling them the shallow 2.
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mortalez: Well I for one can care less about a womans monetary situation.
and for that matter I know many men who are very successfull who MARRIED women who had low wage jobs, but only know of ONE successful women who is married to a low income guy and she was with him when they were both broke.
My point being this seems to be an issue that negatively effects men more than women, yes there are a few guys shallow in that regard but there the exception to the rule.
when i was working as a bartender I used to sometimes play match maker, well almost everytime I would set up a blind date I would hear the same question.
The guy would ask " what does she look like "
the woman would ask " what does he do for a living. "
I start calling them the shallow 2.
and for that matter I know many men who are very successfull who MARRIED women who had low wage jobs, but only know of ONE successful women who is married to a low income guy and she was with him when they were both broke.
My point being this seems to be an issue that negatively effects men more than women, yes there are a few guys shallow in that regard but there the exception to the rule.
when i was working as a bartender I used to sometimes play match maker, well almost everytime I would set up a blind date I would hear the same question.
The guy would ask " what does she look like "
the woman would ask " what does he do for a living. "
I start calling them the shallow 2.
I do not see it affecting men, negatively.
Only here! I see men who have suffered, when their marriage breaks down, they lose their home, children and have to pay a second mortgage out in child support. But I do not see them complaining.
I have no bother if a person has not two ha'pennies to rub together, I do not care, I have enough to pay my bills, support my children, I do not get any child support from my ex husband, we share the support 50/50.
That includes contact and the financial aspect.
I see your point very well.
You are of the mind that women are shallow and materialistic, more that men are, and that is down to your experience, not because you know this for a fact, and of course, your work as a bartender.
I am not getting at you, I am simply pointing out that I see a flaw in your poll.
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Sommerauer71: That is better.
Much more positive.
Love is not all it is about.
It is about support, levelling, trusting, laughing, all of those things that no amount of money can buy.
There are people who are materialistic, I agree, but to give oprions in your poll, that women are shallow and materialistic, is not going to do you any favours.
Frankly it does not trouble me, I am secure enough in myself to know that I am not, my man knows that I am not, but some may not be too happy about it.
However, you seem a nice man, who is hurting badly.
Much more positive.
Love is not all it is about.
It is about support, levelling, trusting, laughing, all of those things that no amount of money can buy.
There are people who are materialistic, I agree, but to give oprions in your poll, that women are shallow and materialistic, is not going to do you any favours.
Frankly it does not trouble me, I am secure enough in myself to know that I am not, my man knows that I am not, but some may not be too happy about it.
However, you seem a nice man, who is hurting badly.
I made the poll where non materialistic women have a spot too,
John lennon was right " love is all you need".
to me thats a very positive position and the fact that I left that space in my poll is assuming that there ARE women who feel love is enough though they seem to be the minority so far in this poll, and I did not tell people how to vote.
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Is love enough?
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This graph shows how ALL VOTERS voted for this poll
* All
* I'm a man and yes.233%
* I'm a man and no.00%
* I'm a loving and caring woman and yes.117%
* I'm a shallow materialistic women and no 350%
* Current Total6
Results by Gender
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* Women
* I'm a man and yes.00%
* I'm a man and no.00%
* I'm a loving and caring woman and yes.00%
* I'm a shallow materialistic women and no 3100%
* Current Total3
This graph shows how MEN voted for this poll
* Men
* I'm a man and yes.267%
* I'm a man and no.00%
* I'm a loving and caring woman and yes.133%
* I'm a shallow materialistic women and no 00%
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Results by Age Range
This graph shows how WOMEN 18-40 voted for this poll
* Women 18-40
* I'm a man and yes.00%
* I'm a man and no.00%
* I'm a loving and caring woman and yes.00%
* I'm a shallow materialistic women and no 1100%
* Current Total1
This graph shows how WOMEN 41+ voted for this poll
* Women 41+
* I'm a man and yes.00%
* I'm a man and no.00%
* I'm a loving and caring woman and yes.00%
* I'm a shallow materialistic women and no 2100%
* Current Total2
This graph shows how MEN 18-40 voted for this poll
* Men 18-40
* I'm a man and yes.2100%
* I'm a man and no.00%
* I'm a loving and caring woman and yes.00%
* I'm a shallow materialistic women and no 00%
* Current Total2
This graph shows how MEN 41+ voted for this poll
* Men 41+
* I'm a man and yes.00%
* I'm a man and no.00%
* I'm a loving and caring woman and yes.1100%
* I'm a shallow materialistic women and no 00%
* Current Total1
created by: mortalez | 2 hours ago
This graph shows how ALL VOTERS voted for this poll
* All
* I'm a man and yes.233%
* I'm a man and no.00%
* I'm a loving and caring woman and yes.117%
* I'm a shallow materialistic women and no 350%
* Current Total6
Results by Gender
This graph shows how WOMEN voted for this poll
* Women
* I'm a man and yes.00%
* I'm a man and no.00%
* I'm a loving and caring woman and yes.00%
* I'm a shallow materialistic women and no 3100%
* Current Total3
This graph shows how MEN voted for this poll
* Men
* I'm a man and yes.267%
* I'm a man and no.00%
* I'm a loving and caring woman and yes.133%
* I'm a shallow materialistic women and no 00%
* Current Total3
Results by Age Range
This graph shows how WOMEN 18-40 voted for this poll
* Women 18-40
* I'm a man and yes.00%
* I'm a man and no.00%
* I'm a loving and caring woman and yes.00%
* I'm a shallow materialistic women and no 1100%
* Current Total1
This graph shows how WOMEN 41+ voted for this poll
* Women 41+
* I'm a man and yes.00%
* I'm a man and no.00%
* I'm a loving and caring woman and yes.00%
* I'm a shallow materialistic women and no 2100%
* Current Total2
This graph shows how MEN 18-40 voted for this poll
* Men 18-40
* I'm a man and yes.2100%
* I'm a man and no.00%
* I'm a loving and caring woman and yes.00%
* I'm a shallow materialistic women and no 00%
* Current Total2
This graph shows how MEN 41+ voted for this poll
* Men 41+
* I'm a man and yes.00%
* I'm a man and no.00%
* I'm a loving and caring woman and yes.1100%
* I'm a shallow materialistic women and no 00%
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mortalez: But if you could not afford to send them to college would that mean you love them less?
and if you could not afford to send them to college would they love you less?
The answer to both is prolly not.
mother is the word for god in the hearts and minds of children -the crow
and if you could not afford to send them to college would they love you less?
The answer to both is prolly not.
mother is the word for god in the hearts and minds of children -the crow
You raise a very good question...
No, is the answer to both questions, I am sure that would not be the case...
I can see that you think that women are the more materialistic gender.
We are in a sense, we are homemakers, men are happy with alot less than we are...
But I still stand by that you are associating and generalising with your poll...
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mortalez: I have heard this more than one time in the past, to tell the truth I have had a little bad luck I have always been able to pay my bill's but I have not made the big bucks, when I was married I always managed to put food on the table, when in a relationship I am caring creative and honest, the last girl I dated in dropping me read off all my good traits but said that it was not enough, she said she thought at my age I should be further along, this sucks because I do get by, I'm not a bum, I have my own house and car while after paying my bills I might have 50 bucks left over but atleast I pay my bills. are all women this materialistic?
Well, on this site you are consistently negative. Every single post by you I have read has been angry and/or negative. Many people have tried to be nice to you and make you feel better but you continue in the same vein. I have no idea why you are here except that posting ugly rude things helps you feel better. I'm not seeing your "caring creative" side at all and this poll was offensive. I think you think you are the only person in the world who has been hurt or had a difficult time of it. Get over yourself. You certainly are not ready to date.
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LACali: Well, on this site you are consistently negative. Every single post by you I have read has been angry and/or negative. Many people have tried to be nice to you and make you feel better but you continue in the same vein. I have no idea why you are here except that posting ugly rude things helps you feel better. I'm not seeing your "caring creative" side at all and this poll was offensive. I think you think you are the only person in the world who has been hurt or had a difficult time of it. Get over yourself. You certainly are not ready to date.
OK I gave an option for good and evil in the poll, you looked at the poll and saw just the evil. like I said good women should be praised. also you have not seen my kind caring side because we have not dated.
I am very positive when meeting a woman and stay so until the woman becomes distant, most relationships start off great and what keeps me alive is the hope that one will end great( until old age and death ).
Like I have said in other threads I did not start out this way it took alot of hurt to do this.
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mortalez: OK I gave an option for good and evil in the poll, you looked at the poll and saw just the evil. like I said good women should be praised. also you have not seen my kind caring side because we have not dated.
I am very positive when meeting a woman and stay so until the woman becomes distant, most relationships start off great and what keeps me alive is the hope that one will end great( until old age and death ).
Like I have said in other threads I did not start out this way it took a lot of hurt to do this.
I am very positive when meeting a woman and stay so until the woman becomes distant, most relationships start off great and what keeps me alive is the hope that one will end great( until old age and death ).
Like I have said in other threads I did not start out this way it took a lot of hurt to do this.
Ok how about these apples! My daughter was the best lady Jockey in Aus against the men too.She came down in a race and was left disabled She then became pregnant at seven months her ex left her for another woman.Then we battled on 4yrs later my husband her beloved father also left us and went back to England after 38 yrs of marriage.I was numb my daughter destroyed so all we have left is 3 of us that is counting my wonderful granddaughter.
My daughter will never trust a man again.The two she loved best walked out on her.They both did so much worse cant talk about it.Am I destroyed no I do know that all males are not like that.But antidepressants helped me.Off them now, all you can do is dust yourself off and start all over again.Oh in all those yrs of marriage I never looked at anyone else.Stupid me.
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OK I gave an option for good and evil in the poll, you looked at the poll and saw just the evil.
Really? I saw there was a choice of shallow and materialistic for women and just yes or no for men. Ugly/negative much??? And like I have said already to you I have no idea feeling so bitter why you are here.
Really? I saw there was a choice of shallow and materialistic for women and just yes or no for men. Ugly/negative much??? And like I have said already to you I have no idea feeling so bitter why you are here.
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My friend you have the entire premise of Love messed up here beyond its intention. Love like a smile or friendship can only be given away. There is no expectations or it loses its lustre and becomes something else. There is an unconditional aspect of Love that is often overlooked. Pride, selfishness, fear these are the enemies of Love. If we harobour those then there is no room for Love in our hearts. You must Love to be loved by all except God as His Love is unfaltering alone.
Materialism is not Love of anything but the world. Wer are to live in the world but not to the extent that all we have is here. Those who do this are equally men and women. No gender has a moratorium on this foolishness. There are different stages in life and not all are on the same page. We all go through the book to the end but some readers are quicker, some take more time to be sure of what has gone before. Some have impeccable retention, others just skim looking for the good parts.
Try Loving and see what it draws to you. Do not expect anything as Love requires Hope and Faith and doubt or fear is the only opposite of Love. Feed the fear starve the Love.
Materialism is not Love of anything but the world. Wer are to live in the world but not to the extent that all we have is here. Those who do this are equally men and women. No gender has a moratorium on this foolishness. There are different stages in life and not all are on the same page. We all go through the book to the end but some readers are quicker, some take more time to be sure of what has gone before. Some have impeccable retention, others just skim looking for the good parts.
Try Loving and see what it draws to you. Do not expect anything as Love requires Hope and Faith and doubt or fear is the only opposite of Love. Feed the fear starve the Love.
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LACali: OK I gave an option for good and evil in the poll, you looked at the poll and saw just the evil.
Really? I saw there was a choice of shallow and materialistic for women and just yes or no for men. Ugly/negative much??? And like I have said already to you I have no idea feeling so bitter why you are here.
Really? I saw there was a choice of shallow and materialistic for women and just yes or no for men. Ugly/negative much??? And like I have said already to you I have no idea feeling so bitter why you are here.
Is love enough?
* I'm a man and yes.
* I'm a man and no.
* I'm a loving and caring woman and yes.<---- Did you miss the one?
* I'm a shallow materialistic women and no
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mortalez: I have heard this more than one time in the past, to tell the truth I have had a little bad luck I have always been able to pay my bill's but I have not made the big bucks, when I was married I always managed to put food on the table, when in a relationship I am caring creative and honest, the last girl I dated in dropping me read off all my good traits but said that it was not enough, she said she thought at my age I should be further along, this sucks because I do get by, I'm not a bum, I have my own house and car while after paying my bills I might have 50 bucks left over but atleast I pay my bills. are all women this materialistic?
No. I honestly don't care how much a man makes.
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Sommerauer71: You would choose the 'other' option.
Which is not there.
There should be the 'other' option.
Which is not there.
There should be the 'other' option.
Why? either you feel love is enough or you dont.
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laura225: First, everyone has their own definition of 'loving and caring'.
Secondly, this poll is clearly lopsided.
It's either that:
1. I'm a loving and caring woman and yes
2. I'm a shallow materialistic woman and no
3. I'm a loving and caring woman and no
4. I'm a shallow materialistic woman and yes
5. I'm a loving and caring man and yes
6. I'm a shallow materialistic man and no
7. I'm a loving and caring man and no
8. I'm a shallow materialistic man and yes
9. Otheror what he said \/ \/ \/
Secondly, this poll is clearly lopsided.
It's either that:
1. I'm a loving and caring woman and yes
2. I'm a shallow materialistic woman and no
3. I'm a loving and caring woman and no
4. I'm a shallow materialistic woman and yes
5. I'm a loving and caring man and yes
6. I'm a shallow materialistic man and no
7. I'm a loving and caring man and no
8. I'm a shallow materialistic man and yes
9. Otheror what he said \/ \/ \/
no offence mam but most of those would not make sense .
a shallow woman would not think love is enough.
and a caring woman would not thing love wasnt enough. and the poll would be waaaaayyyyy to long.
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mortalez: Why? either you feel love is enough or you dont.
I was joking...
mortalez
I feel love every day, it is who I am, what I am about, it spurns me on, with my children, even an adopted one, I work silly hours, teaching and raising children whose parents trust me to take care, lead and guide their own children.
I watch my father, who is enjoying life, I love my friends and not afraid to tell them that I do.
I have my man, I love him, I tell him and I show him and he just makes it damn well ok.
There is no place for me in your poll...
Because my answer is too big for your poll...
I cannot just tick a box, it is more than that...
Love is something that is not an option, it is in our souls, there is not a person that does not love, even those that I have squabbled with, they still love...
You have it wrong, you compartmentalise the stuff, incorrectly, you are clinical, saddened, deeply wounded and blame love for that, tangled with money...
You attach too much power to money, believing that some, I say some, women are only interested in love.
Forget about them, no matter if you have a sand hut in the middle of a desert, love is something within us...
If my man had a tent and nothing else, guess where I would be every night???
In that tent, with our doors closed, and banging those pegs in... And if all I had was a tent, or the open, I have no doubt in my mind he would be there.
You got it all wrong, sweetheart, all wrong.
You cannot change the direction of the wind, all we can do as people, is alter our sails. (quote)
And you, my little mixed up, bundle of hurt and sadness, you need to unburden your shoulders from this grief and let that man inside you, who so desperately wants to be loved, allow himself to be.
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mortalez: no offence mam but most of those would not make sense .
a shallow woman would not think love is enough.
and a caring woman would not thing love wasnt enough. and the poll would be waaaaayyyyy to long.
a shallow woman would not think love is enough.
and a caring woman would not thing love wasnt enough. and the poll would be waaaaayyyyy to long.
No, offence,
but
it stops making sense when it's short
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Sommerauer71:
If my man had a tent and nothing else, guess where I would be every night???
In that tent, with our doors closed, and banging those pegs in... And if all I had was a tent, or the open, I have no doubt in my mind he would be there.
If my man had a tent and nothing else, guess where I would be every night???
In that tent, with our doors closed, and banging those pegs in... And if all I had was a tent, or the open, I have no doubt in my mind he would be there.
You wanna go camping.... in December!?
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PietroPaoloV: You wanna go camping.... in December!?
If you like...
I am sure that you and that bloody big sister of yours are out to get me today.
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Now sweetie we love you dearly ...but camping in Sweden in December I will send you some M&S drawers.
I am sure little bruv will furnish with the size.
I am sure little bruv will furnish with the size.
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You can't really argue the facts of the statistics ladies..what I see from the poll results is you all who voted lean towards shallow and materialistic..or am I not seeing clearly?..or is it possible that you woman didn't take it at all seriously and decided to lie?
This man was only trying to gather HIS OWN FACTS...in his own way.
I do think most deffinatley the poster of this thread had a biased attutude towards woman and the results of the poll BECAUSE of the way he set the poll up to begin with only could indeed garner the results he most expected which is of course that woman for the most part are shallow..I find it pathetic thats my opinion I stand by it..I have been single 16 years twice as long as him waiting for'my ideal'woman friend and companion..I have been on many dates and have made many good female friends as a result.
I am happy to have stumbled accross CS as it has expanded my searchable horizon.
I may or may not have found her here..
I have found someone I am getting to know however, she is the only female soul here who has bothered about getting to actually know me for me...
Getting to know someone is a challenge I accept.
This man was only trying to gather HIS OWN FACTS...in his own way.
I do think most deffinatley the poster of this thread had a biased attutude towards woman and the results of the poll BECAUSE of the way he set the poll up to begin with only could indeed garner the results he most expected which is of course that woman for the most part are shallow..I find it pathetic thats my opinion I stand by it..I have been single 16 years twice as long as him waiting for'my ideal'woman friend and companion..I have been on many dates and have made many good female friends as a result.
I am happy to have stumbled accross CS as it has expanded my searchable horizon.
I may or may not have found her here..
I have found someone I am getting to know however, she is the only female soul here who has bothered about getting to actually know me for me...
Getting to know someone is a challenge I accept.
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mortalez: I have heard this more than one time in the past, to tell the truth I have had a little bad luck I have always been able to pay my bill's but I have not made the big bucks, when I was married I always managed to put food on the table, when in a relationship I am caring creative and honest, the last girl I dated in dropping me read off all my good traits but said that it was not enough, she said she thought at my age I should be further along, this sucks because I do get by, I'm not a bum, I have my own house and car while after paying my bills I might have 50 bucks left over but atleast I pay my bills. are all women this materialistic?
Your poll is totally unfair and is stereotyping women. Just because you've had your problems with some women doesn't mean all of us women are shallow and materialistic as you're trying to point out.
I have my own business and it's going well. I don't really need a man to support me in the financal end of things.
I grew up without alot so material things mean squat to me.I've worn handme down clothes as a child and still do as an adult. I also have handme down furniture in my home as well.
I don't judge a man by his income, what he owns or what he does for a living. It's more important to me of who he is as a person and how he treats me and other people.
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Sommerauer71: If my man had a tent and nothing else, guess where I would be every night???
In that tent, with our doors closed, and banging those pegs in... And if all I had was a tent, or the open, I have no doubt in my mind he would be there.
In that tent, with our doors closed, and banging those pegs in... And if all I had was a tent, or the open, I have no doubt in my mind he would be there.
with that one statmente you have shown that you believe love IS enough and you are honest about that statment you are one of the loving caring females dicribed in the pole.
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Your poll seems awfully slanted, M. Why not apply the same "loving and caring" and "shallow materialistic" to men?
It's possible to believe love is not enough without any reference to money, by the way. For instance, it may not be enough if your personalities or life-circumstances are sufficiently incompatible.
It's possible to believe love is not enough without any reference to money, by the way. For instance, it may not be enough if your personalities or life-circumstances are sufficiently incompatible.
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Ambrose2007: Your poll seems awfully slanted, M. Why not apply the same "loving and caring" and "shallow materialistic" to men?
It's possible to believe love is not enough without any reference to money, by the way. For instance, it may not be enough if your personalities or life-circumstances are sufficiently incompatible.
It's possible to believe love is not enough without any reference to money, by the way. For instance, it may not be enough if your personalities or life-circumstances are sufficiently incompatible.
if your personalities were so different then love would not come, you could like them, like them alot but not love, and life circumstances are outside to actual love.
jeez jon lennon died to soon.
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