Obama Rocks! Is Obama a great president or would McCain be better? (797)

Apr 10, 2009 7:30 PM CST Obama Rocks! Is Obama a great president or would McCain be better?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
WhatUwish4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGur8GlFOAc

Dude...this clip is very short and it's Obama speaking. He said if the troops are not home by the time he's president it would be the very first thing he would do. "And you can take that to the bank!" He says.

Seems the only thing that's been taken to the bank since he's been in office is the taxpayer's money....


Would you aprove if Obama began to draw ameircan military out of Iraq begining by tomorrow? I am sure one of the main poroblems Obama would face would be a strong oposition from republicans and they would bash his administration as never before because of the sudden civilwar which surely would begin in that poor country!

The withdrawing stiaution is much more comlicated than such unfortunatily and I am sure if Obama could decide him self and with out being bounded by military generals and the oposition in both houses he would withdraw them all very soon and would concentrate on the main battle ground:

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1)Barack Obama will responsibly end the war in Iraq:
Immediately upon taking office, Obama will give his Secretary of Defense and military commanders a new mission in Iraq: successfully ending the war. The removal of our troops will be responsible and phased.

2)Encourage political accommodation:
Obama and Biden will press Iraq's leaders to take responsibility for their future and to substantially spend their oil revenues on their own reconstruction.

3)Increase stability in Iraq and the region:
Obama and Biden will launch an aggressive diplomatic effort to reach a comprehensive compact on the stability of Iraq and the region. They also will address Iraq's refugee crisis.

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I know! Obama wished it could be possible to stop the occupation of Iraq fast but then later when he was more aware of the complication of the situation he announced it will be between 16-18 mounths and I am sure it will sooner than that because Afghani situation gets more and more hot and the clock is ticking in both Afghanistan and Pakistan as well and it is really getting dangerous in those two countries specially now where all of a sudden Talibanies have been given suvernity in a big part of Pakistan all of a sudden by their odd and very WRONG presidnet!

I am sure the matter of Iraq will be taken cared of soon.......Iran needs to be tamed and they have the main key to the stability in Iraq, and Iraq is not the main battle ground and the main strategy will be changed and security strategies would be the main issue rather than fuel strategy.

Right here and right now the first steps toward changing for real in that direction has been taken and I see huge with drawings of american military from Iraq soon...... Emergency situation in Afghanistan, Pakistan and even in nothern Africa and emergency always changes the situation rapidley. It is like in a hospital you see? When ever there is an emergency docs and nurses will have to stay rather than going home and relax and some patients will have to wait.
Apr 10, 2009 7:46 PM CST Obama Rocks! Is Obama a great president or would McCain be better?
Increased military funding requests to promote the "war", troop buildup in Afghanistan, delayed withdrawal from Iraq! Sounds like a peacenik to me??????????
Apr 10, 2009 7:56 PM CST Obama Rocks! Is Obama a great president or would McCain be better?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
That's not my point, Dude. Before the election we used to debate all the time about how it was madness to withdraw the troops the way Obama proposed, and you insisted it was mandatory. Now that he's changed his tune, so have you. I'm just pointing out that what he is doing is in direct opposition to what he said he would do, and why so many people wanted to elect him.
Apr 10, 2009 7:58 PM CST Obama Rocks! Is Obama a great president or would McCain be better?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
ttom500: This is the best giggle of the Day, Wish! Thanks!!


Hey TThom! wave wave
There's plenty more where that came from. How many broken promises do you want to hear??? grin
Apr 10, 2009 8:02 PM CST Obama Rocks! Is Obama a great president or would McCain be better?
buzzy
buzzybuzzybiddeford, Maine USA24 Threads 1,492 Posts
I can see McCains stimulas package, a free bag of Mccain's Super Fast Fries. laugh
Apr 10, 2009 8:06 PM CST Obama Rocks! Is Obama a great president or would McCain be better?
rocketqueen
rocketqueenrocketqueengeelong, Victoria Australia23 Threads 1 Polls 2,003 Posts
toranoga: Increased military funding requests to promote the "war", troop buildup in Afghanistan, delayed withdrawal from Iraq! Sounds like a peacenik to me??????????


portraying to be a smart man toranoga, you of all people should realise that a sudden withdrawal will lead to the uprising of terrorism, and instability in that country.......

bush bloody put them there to begin withdoh
Apr 10, 2009 8:07 PM CST Obama Rocks! Is Obama a great president or would McCain be better?
buzzy: I can see McCains stimulas package, a free bag of Mccain's Super Fast Fries.

Budweiser, so he can keep his wifes income stream going from her Bud distributorships.
Apr 10, 2009 8:07 PM CST Obama Rocks! Is Obama a great president or would McCain be better?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
WhatUwish4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGur8GlFOAc

Dude...this clip is very short and it's Obama speaking. He said if the troops are not home by the time he's president it would be the very first thing he would do. "And you can take that to the bank!" He says.

Seems the only thing that's been taken to the bank since he's been in office is the taxpayer's money....


Even the british papers are making fun of Obmummer. rolling on the floor laughing
Apr 10, 2009 8:08 PM CST Obama Rocks! Is Obama a great president or would McCain be better?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
rocketqueen: portraying to be a smart man toranoga, you of all people should realise that a sudden withdrawal will lead to the uprising of terrorism, and instability in that country.......

bush bloody put them there to begin with



So another way of saying it... Obama lied and soldiers died...


Correct?
Apr 10, 2009 8:10 PM CST Obama Rocks! Is Obama a great president or would McCain be better?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
Actually, even with your piss poor polling model (at this time)...56% would have a negative view toward Obama. Do the math...rolling on the floor laughing
Apr 10, 2009 8:12 PM CST Obama Rocks! Is Obama a great president or would McCain be better?
rocketqueen: portraying to be a smart man toranoga, you of all people should realise that a sudden withdrawal will lead to the uprising of terrorism, and instability in that country.......

bush bloody put them there to begin with

Once again, Obama can do or say nothing wrong, regardless of what or how he does it. Obama set the timeline, I didn't and I never said we should withdraw immediately, or in 16 months as Obama said during the campaign. doh
Apr 10, 2009 8:14 PM CST Obama Rocks! Is Obama a great president or would McCain be better?
rocketqueen
rocketqueenrocketqueengeelong, Victoria Australia23 Threads 1 Polls 2,003 Posts
Indyfella: So another way of saying it... Obama lied and soldiers died...Correct?


that should read bush lied so soldiers died........
ok so the soldiers deaths are obamas fault are they indy??

WE SHOULDNT HAVE BEEN IN THERE IN THE FIRST place, and you full well know that.......obama is trying to clean up the mess bush left, while trying to stop a all-out-war within these countries, which will lead to further complications for AMERICAdoh doh frustrated
Apr 10, 2009 8:16 PM CST Obama Rocks! Is Obama a great president or would McCain be better?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
rocketqueen: that should read bush lied so soldiers died........
ok so the soldiers deaths are obamas fault are they indy??

WE SHOULDNT HAVE BEEN IN THERE IN THE FIRST place, and you full well know that.......obama is trying to clean up the mess bush left, while trying to stop a all-out-war within these countries, which will lead to further complications for AMERICA


It's not Bush's war now, it's Obama's. He wanted the job. applause
Apr 10, 2009 8:16 PM CST Obama Rocks! Is Obama a great president or would McCain be better?
rocketqueen
rocketqueenrocketqueengeelong, Victoria Australia23 Threads 1 Polls 2,003 Posts
toranoga: Once again, Obama can do or say nothing wrong, regardless of what or how he does it. Obama set the timeline, I didn't and I never said we should withdraw immediately, or in 16 months as Obama said during the campaign.


MAKE UP YOUR MIND, WHICH DID HE SAY??? IMMMEDIATLEY OR IN 16 MONTHS......by the way i NEVER heard him say he would do it immediatley, he said as soon as it was possible....
that dont mean on the day after inaugurationdoh
Apr 10, 2009 8:18 PM CST Obama Rocks! Is Obama a great president or would McCain be better?
rocketqueen
rocketqueenrocketqueengeelong, Victoria Australia23 Threads 1 Polls 2,003 Posts
toranoga: Once again, Obama can do or say nothing wrong, regardless of what or how he does it. Obama set the timeline, I didn't and I never said we should withdraw immediately, or in 16 months as Obama said during the campaign.


your interpretations of his words is profounddoh

i thought you were smarter than that
Apr 10, 2009 8:18 PM CST Obama Rocks! Is Obama a great president or would McCain be better?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
rocketqueen: MAKE UP YOUR MIND, WHICH DID HE SAY??? IMMMEDIATLEY OR IN 16 MONTHS......by the way i NEVER heard him say he would do it immediatley, he said as soon as it was possible....
that dont mean on the day after inauguration


as soon as possible would be inauguration day...as I see it.
damn warmonger.
Apr 10, 2009 8:21 PM CST Obama Rocks! Is Obama a great president or would McCain be better?
rocketqueen
rocketqueenrocketqueengeelong, Victoria Australia23 Threads 1 Polls 2,003 Posts
Indyfella: as soon as possible would be inauguration day...as I see it.
damn warmonger.


you know indy you have to look at things with TWO eyes, not one
frustrated
Apr 10, 2009 8:24 PM CST Obama Rocks! Is Obama a great president or would McCain be better?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
buzzy: I can see McCains stimulas package, a free bag of Mccain's Super Fast Fries.
laugh
Apr 10, 2009 8:26 PM CST Obama Rocks! Is Obama a great president or would McCain be better?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
He certainly broke this promise....

I can't find it at the moment, but a YouTube clip from last October features Obama promising the non-profit group “Caucus for Priorities” that he would reduce wasteful military spending.

“I will cut tens of billions of dollars in wasteful spending,” Obama said in the video. “I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems. I will not weaponize space. I will slow our development of future combat systems.”
Apr 10, 2009 8:28 PM CST Obama Rocks! Is Obama a great president or would McCain be better?
rocketqueen
rocketqueenrocketqueengeelong, Victoria Australia23 Threads 1 Polls 2,003 Posts
WhatUwish4: He certainly broke this promise....

I can't find it at the moment, but a YouTube clip from last October features Obama promising the non-profit group “Caucus for Priorities” that he would reduce wasteful military spending.

“I will cut tens of billions of dollars in wasteful spending,” Obama said in the video. “I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems. I will not weaponize space. I will slow our development of future combat systems.”



THEY ALL LIE WISH uh oh
Apr 10, 2009 8:29 PM CST Obama Rocks! Is Obama a great president or would McCain be better?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
rocketqueen: THEY ALL LIE WISH
moping
Apr 10, 2009 8:31 PM CST Obama Rocks! Is Obama a great president or would McCain be better?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
rocketqueen: portraying to be a smart man toranoga, you of all people should realise that a sudden withdrawal will lead to the uprising of terrorism, and instability in that country.......

bush bloody put them there to begin with
They know this very well!

But they dont care!

The damn Bushney,s made sure there is a lot trouble for the new president to clean up after the disaster they created for America!
Apr 10, 2009 8:32 PM CST Obama Rocks! Is Obama a great president or would McCain be better?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
rocketqueen: THEY ALL LIE WISH


True...sigh
Apr 10, 2009 8:37 PM CST Obama Rocks! Is Obama a great president or would McCain be better?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: They know this very well!

But they dont care!

The damn Bushney,s made sure there is a lot trouble for the new president to clean up after the disaster they created for America!


But Bush knew that the Messiah could fix anything. rolling on the floor laughing
Apr 10, 2009 8:49 PM CST Obama Rocks! Is Obama a great president or would McCain be better?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Indyfella: But Bush knew that the Messiah could fix anything.


Indy...I can't find it anywhere.
dunno dunno dunno
Apr 10, 2009 8:51 PM CST Obama Rocks! Is Obama a great president or would McCain be better?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
WhatUwish4: Indy...I can't find it anywhere.


Where did you leave it. laugh
Apr 10, 2009 9:57 PM CST Obama Rocks! Is Obama a great president or would McCain be better?
rocketqueen: MAKE UP YOUR MIND, WHICH DID HE SAY??? IMMMEDIATLEY OR IN 16 MONTHS......by the way i NEVER heard him say he would do it immediatley, he said as soon as it was possible....
that dont mean on the day after inauguration

Read the comma in as it was written.
So, just because he said we would withdraw in whatever specific time period(16 months) it is perfectly alright if he extends that period to whenever, so long as he withdraws sometime?
Apr 10, 2009 10:42 PM CST Obama Rocks! Is Obama a great president or would McCain be better?
webbs
webbswebbsLexington, Michigan USA3 Threads 283 Posts
WhatUwish4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGur8GlFOAc

Dude...this clip is very short and it's Obama speaking. He said if the troops are not home by the time he's president it would be the very first thing he would do. "And you can take that to the bank!" He says.

Seems the only thing that's been taken to the bank since he's been in office is the taxpayer's money....




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Apr 10, 2009 10:44 PM CST Obama Rocks! Is Obama a great president or would McCain be better?
webbs
webbswebbsLexington, Michigan USA3 Threads 283 Posts
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WhatUwish4: That's not my point, Dude. Before the election we used to debate all the time about how it was madness to withdraw the troops the way Obama proposed, and you insisted it was mandatory. Now that he's changed his tune, so have you. I'm just pointing out that what he is doing is in direct opposition to what he said he would do, and why so many people wanted to elect him.
Apr 10, 2009 10:50 PM CST Obama Rocks! Is Obama a great president or would McCain be better?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
“I will cut tens of billions of dollars in wasteful spending,” Obama said in the video. “I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems. I will not weaponize space. I will slow our development of future combat systems.....”

Oh but first, can I have $83.4 billion in additional troop funding????


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