Obama Rocks! Is Obama a great president or would McCain be better? (797)
woody636: You'd have loved it! Shrimp cocktail and shrimp/crab/clam stuffed mushrooms for an appetiser. Then a spinach salad with a hot bacon dressing. Followed by hickory smoked, honey glazed ham, polish sausage, cajun corn, french cut green beens with mushrooms, bacon, and toasted slived almonds, german potatoe salad, garlic mashed potatoes and french rolls. Grand finale was a french cordon bleu "concorde". Baked chocolate merrange layered with chocolate mousse and covered in chantilly creme! Total decadence!!! A few good wines and everyone won!!!
You're killin me...
WhatUwish4: Agreed, and like you said,,where will all this lead us?
To what end are they working...???
To what end are they working...???
Well, loaded questions, K.
Well, I guess if there is someone out there that has other suggestions/solutions, I am sure they would welcomed for very strong consideration.
So, perhaps we should start a thread with a 'Ssuggestion Box" which can be sent over to the next world summit, and we could all vote for a CS representative to attend.
I nominate you and Dude for starters!
Here, have a beer!
WhatUwish4: You're killin me...
Total exhaustion now!! Sitting for the first time; enjoying a nice single malt scotch! How'd your day go, kiddo!woody636: Total exhaustion now!! Sitting for the first time; enjoying a nice single malt scotch! How'd your day go, kiddo!
Um...250 Easter Eggs divided by six screaming meemies. Need I say more?
WhatUwish4: Um...250 Easter Eggs divided by six screaming meemies. Need I say more?
Strange...Suddenly I'm reminded of how tired I am!
Really leaving now...
Night all.
WhatUwish4: Um...250 Easter Eggs divided by six screaming meemies. Need I say more?
Nope! Nothing else has to be said! I'm having another scotch for YOU! Happy Easter, Darlin! 
zee1ander: The field of view was way to small to use a helo, plus the winds would have had a huge effect on the shot when only inches count. I think the SEALs assaulted the boat with small arms.
zee
zee
Zee, the reports say "snipers" did the work.You don't get a sniper to do a QCB assault in a soft skinned rigid.
I hate to tell you that Royal Marine snipers took out drug smugglers at speed from helicopters.......but then don't take my word for it, look at the news report as you clearly will argue anything with me as i have always been an "art dealer".
Had they been on the vessel then i would have expected a covert assault at night at 4am with SD3's and night vision on.
On the main vessel this would be the way to go for sure, but not on a moving lifeboat, especially when the route for craft couldn't be intercepted by guys in the water.That required a stationary vessel to allow an assault.
Here's an article on how Marine Snipers work, and if i remember rightly, a robust rifle like the M40A3 isn't going to be ideal from a circling aircraft, but more likely something semi automatic, where you can put 5 shots spot on within 10 seconds including adjustment time with decent optics.
The main thing to remember is the "minute of angle" (think 1" spread at 100 yards) and so the Helo will have been fairly close to guarantee the inevitable outcome for the target.
So think a modern semi-auto weapon, 200 yards, .5 MOA and half inch spread and boat that's slow, basically any sniper worth his salt would be able to do this, especially with .762 round.
Anyway, i'm sure the details will surface, but the main thing is the man is safe and on his way back home to see his family.
RobbieM: Zee, the reports say "snipers" did the work.You don't get a sniper to do a QCB assault in a soft skinned rigid.
I hate to tell you that Royal Marine snipers took out drug smugglers at speed from helicopters.......but then don't take my word for it, look at the news report as you clearly will argue anything with me as i have always been an "art dealer".
Had they been on the vessel then i would have expected a covert assault at night at 4am with SD3's and night vision on.
On the main vessel this would be the way to go for sure, but not on a moving lifeboat, especially when the route for craft couldn't be intercepted by guys in the water.That required a stationary vessel to allow an assault.
Here's an article on how Marine Snipers work, and if i remember rightly, a robust rifle like the M40A3 isn't going to be ideal from a circling aircraft, but more likely something semi automatic, where you can put 5 shots spot on within 10 seconds including adjustment time with decent optics.
The main thing to remember is the "minute of angle" (think 1" spread at 100 yards) and so the Helo will have been fairly close to guarantee the inevitable outcome for the target.
So think a modern semi-auto weapon, 200 yards, .5 MOA and half inch spread and boat that's slow, basically any sniper worth his salt would be able to do this, especially with .762 round.
Anyway, i'm sure the details will surface, but the main thing is the man is safe and on his way back home to see his family.
I hate to tell you that Royal Marine snipers took out drug smugglers at speed from helicopters.......but then don't take my word for it, look at the news report as you clearly will argue anything with me as i have always been an "art dealer".
Had they been on the vessel then i would have expected a covert assault at night at 4am with SD3's and night vision on.
On the main vessel this would be the way to go for sure, but not on a moving lifeboat, especially when the route for craft couldn't be intercepted by guys in the water.That required a stationary vessel to allow an assault.
Here's an article on how Marine Snipers work, and if i remember rightly, a robust rifle like the M40A3 isn't going to be ideal from a circling aircraft, but more likely something semi automatic, where you can put 5 shots spot on within 10 seconds including adjustment time with decent optics.
The main thing to remember is the "minute of angle" (think 1" spread at 100 yards) and so the Helo will have been fairly close to guarantee the inevitable outcome for the target.
So think a modern semi-auto weapon, 200 yards, .5 MOA and half inch spread and boat that's slow, basically any sniper worth his salt would be able to do this, especially with .762 round.
Anyway, i'm sure the details will surface, but the main thing is the man is safe and on his way back home to see his family.
An American ship captain was freed unharmed Sunday in a swift firefight that killed three of the four Somali pirates who had been holding him for days in a lifeboat off the coast of Africa, U.S. officials said.
Snipers don't get into firefights.
I talked to a buddy of mine tonight who is a retired SEAL said he doubts they were taken out by a sniper because it was a covered lifeboat. He said her was sure it was an assault team.
I saw no article that said it was a sniper, but I guess we will have to wait for the official report that is given to the press.
zee
zee1ander: An American ship captain was freed unharmed Sunday in a swift firefight that killed three of the four Somali pirates who had been holding him for days in a lifeboat off the coast of Africa, U.S. officials said.
Snipers don't get into firefights.
I talked to a buddy of mine tonight who is a retired SEAL said he doubts they were taken out by a sniper because it was a covered lifeboat. He said her was sure it was an assault team.
I saw no article that said it was a sniper, but I guess we will have to wait for the official report that is given to the press.
zee
Snipers don't get into firefights.
I talked to a buddy of mine tonight who is a retired SEAL said he doubts they were taken out by a sniper because it was a covered lifeboat. He said her was sure it was an assault team.
I saw no article that said it was a sniper, but I guess we will have to wait for the official report that is given to the press.
zee
Zee, clearly snipers don't do QCB assaults, neither Delta or Seal's nor any other sniper will engage a target without authorisation.You need "eyes on" to make the evaluation before the assault.So unless the boat were covered with tin foil then you would use IR or thermal equipment, as he'll tell you.
Clearly, if a boat were slow in the water, or a main vessel then you'd board the vessel. And a group of three SEAL team's would have gone through a group of non professionals like a dose of salts.
RobbieM: Zee, clearly snipers don't do QCB assaults, neither Delta or Seal's nor any other sniper will engage a target without authorisation.You need "eyes on" to make the evaluation before the assault.So unless the boat were covered with tin foil then you would use IR or thermal equipment, as he'll tell you.
Clearly, if a boat were slow in the water, or a main vessel then you'd board the vessel. And a group of three SEAL team's would have gone through a group of non professionals like a dose of salts.
Clearly, if a boat were slow in the water, or a main vessel then you'd board the vessel. And a group of three SEAL team's would have gone through a group of non professionals like a dose of salts.
Do you honestly know what you are talking about? 3 SEAL teams? It only takes 1 team. Part of the SEAL job is is hostage rescue. Eyes on as you call it... would have been been the job of the SEAL commander on station. In a small covered lifeboat a thermal scope would have seen 5 hot spots. US snipers don't take blind shots. I think you have been reading the internet again and not understanding what you are reading.
I can't talk to you anymore. You make up too much crap.
zee
Maybe you better go ask your friend how to conduct an amphibious assault.Then ask him how they divide, into 4 man teams.Then ask him how to clear rooms, and what equipment they use
Clearly whatever your reading it isn't my posts!
Who ever said blind shots? And ask your friend where the SEAL Commander will be located!
This is pointless, you clearly don't have a bloody clue about how a sniper works or how they are kitted out to do specific tasks.
Tell you what, ask your friend, or ask someone from the facility in Fayetteville to take you on a course
Then maybe just maybe you'll see the view from a kite sight and be able to see nice clear silhouettes.
But then what would i know, i've only bloody fired the weapons
Clearly whatever your reading it isn't my posts!
Who ever said blind shots? And ask your friend where the SEAL Commander will be located!
This is pointless, you clearly don't have a bloody clue about how a sniper works or how they are kitted out to do specific tasks.
Tell you what, ask your friend, or ask someone from the facility in Fayetteville to take you on a course
Then maybe just maybe you'll see the view from a kite sight and be able to see nice clear silhouettes.
But then what would i know, i've only bloody fired the weapons
Robbie, please stop hitting yourself on the forehead.
You will get a headache!
You will get a headache!
venere08: Robbie, please stop hitting yourself on the forehead.
You will get a headache!
You will get a headache!
I think i'm going to have to avoid some threads, i keep smashing my head against a wall.
And there was me thinking this was supposed to be entertaining?
Article concerning the Captain's rescue!
WhatUwish4: I wonder how long it will be until Obama throws Europe under the bus...
Already has,TURKEY!Indyfella: Personally, I would have thought Obama would have decended from the clouds (as in the rapture)....and take the captain away. Didn't happen though...
Beam me Up,Obamy! 
He is the best president for the job..... Just don't pay mind or even listen to other's negative comments about him, they no nothing about politics.... Go Obama.....
Italy101: He is the best president for the job..... Just don't pay mind or even listen to other's negative comments about him, they no nothing about politics.... Go Obama.....
Welcome to Obama's Koolaid!RobbieM:
And there was me thinking this was supposed to be entertaining?
And there was me thinking this was supposed to be entertaining?
As entertaining as you allow it to be
zee1ander: I would agree about being strong armed, but I have seen cases with my own eyes where Civilian Americans treated the customer service people like rats. These Americans may even be like tis in the states, but there is no reason to treat other human-beings like that. This is often why we get these reputations.
zee
zee
If the Boss is an a**hole then the employess wil have to be a**hole as well in order to keep the damn job they have to take care of for paying their bills!
Indyfella: Probably to sit down in the UN with the pirates and negotiate a deal.
The United nation must get involved as well because thisproblm ffects ships from all countries and not only american ships.
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Wait and see how wise american men and women taking care of the current problems .......... specially if the new administration listens to the "opposition" but not doing a single thing of what they are telling!
Listening to Repube heads means Trouble and when ever they like "acting" willingness to cooporatin it is because they want to get some inside info and giving it to anti govenrnments organisations out side the house like Fox news and so on!
so the way out of all current problems in America is rather "simple"! Do Not Listen To What So Ever Republicans Suggesting!
Hot_Single_Dude: The United nation must get involved as well because thisproblm ffects ships from all countries and not only american ships.
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Wait and see how wise american men and women taking care of the current problems .......... specially if the new administration listens to the "opposition" but not doing a single thing of what they are telling!
Listening to Repube heads means Trouble and when ever they like "acting" willingness to cooporatin it is because they want to get some inside info and giving it to anti govenrnments organisations out side the house like Fox news and so on!
so the way out of all current problems in America is rather "simple"! Do Not Listen To What So Ever Republicans Suggesting!
'
Wait and see how wise american men and women taking care of the current problems .......... specially if the new administration listens to the "opposition" but not doing a single thing of what they are telling!
Listening to Repube heads means Trouble and when ever they like "acting" willingness to cooporatin it is because they want to get some inside info and giving it to anti govenrnments organisations out side the house like Fox news and so on!
so the way out of all current problems in America is rather "simple"! Do Not Listen To What So Ever Republicans Suggesting!
I think that Dude discriminates against REPs. Maybe time to sue him? Time to call the American Civil Liberties on him...or is the AFCIO....ah heck.......time to call Rush Limbaugh and have Rush deal with him.
WhatUwish4: If you think back to your high school reading, you probably remember "The Ugly American," and how much of our bad reputation stems for the IDIOT diplomats our federal government appointed to go into various countries with not one shred of effort to understand their culture. They were rude and arrogant and we rightly deserve the blame.
Then there are the wealthy who ventured over thinking they were entitled to treat everyone without respect.
But truly...in everyday America...how many people do you know who are like this? Most Americans I know arent' the least bit arrogant when it comes to our thoughts of other countries. Generally, we would all love to travel and explore different cultures but we are so separated geographically most can't afford such luxuries...
JMHO
Then there are the wealthy who ventured over thinking they were entitled to treat everyone without respect.
But truly...in everyday America...how many people do you know who are like this? Most Americans I know arent' the least bit arrogant when it comes to our thoughts of other countries. Generally, we would all love to travel and explore different cultures but we are so separated geographically most can't afford such luxuries...
JMHO
There is not other countries on the entire plaent which countains so many wonderful individuals and good heartd and fabulous people and as the Unitd States of America !
America is a gathering of all nations on entrire earth and have done so much good for the good of all the planets inhabitans and there is no dount about these in my mind what so ever because I have been around and have been travelling in all corners of the planet !
but with all this said...... in the United states of America thre are a**hole and criminals and dangerous people as well and many of these a**hole and criminals and dangerous individuals gtheres around the most criminal govenrnment EVER on power in the United states and thats is why peopl from other nations bcame furious and thats why America was all of sudden isolated and thats why America was rubbed massively as no body could ver imagine!
As told a million times before...... the Bushney,s and their horror regim were not the United States of America!!!!! Just a bunch of nasty and really bad politicians who had not a clue regarding how to take care of the country which were given to them because of the results of the ellctions in past!
Try your best not to feel personally attacked when peopl are bashing on th damn Bushny,s Wish4! No Body Talks about AMERICANS or AMERICA as a whole nation being guilty of the horror the former regim brought upon all of us!
Dude...I'm beginning to think you have only lived for eight years. Everything you say goes back to Bush. What I'm referring to goes back many, many administrations.
WhatUwish4: Dude...I'm beginning to think you have only lived for eight years. Everything you say goes back to Bush. What I'm referring to goes back many, many administrations.
Wish....it is called a mental fixation. Dude will tell as a mental therapist what a mental fixation is. Basically is like a scratched 45 record...comes to the same place in the song....hits the sctratch bounces back to the same place...over....and over...and over.....and over.....and over......again.
What?
Maybe I need to get a refund from my doctor.
zee
Maybe I need to get a refund from my doctor.
zee
WhatUwish4: Dude...the problems YOU refer to with Bush were caused when he had to deal with the worst attack ever on American soil. I can only thank the heavens that Obama wasn't in charge when it happened.
You are barking up the wrong tree here, Wish.
To Dude 9/11 was an inside job. That way GWB and Bushney could invade Iraq for its oil....and then chase bin Laden in Afghanistan all the time never coming close to him....because they were buddies with the bin Laden family of Saudi Arabia.
The concept that of self protection only works if you are a socialist for Dude. Then you can invade into nearby countries (Georgia) to protect any one that is relative of a fellow countryman.
It is all relative to Dude, Wish. REP and DEMOCRACY are bad, bad ,bad. DEM and SOCIALISM is good, good, good.
Italy101: He is the best president for the job..... Just don't pay mind or even listen to other's negative comments about him, they no nothing about politics.... Go Obama.....
...and to think, someday i'll be expecting you to pay my social security.
Great news!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Obummer is going to continue the wiretaps on suspected terrorist.
This guy is just too good.
Obummer is going to continue the wiretaps on suspected terrorist.
This guy is just too good.
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I bet it was an awesome meal!
You'd have loved it! Shrimp cocktail and shrimp/crab/clam stuffed mushrooms for an appetiser. Then a spinach salad with a hot bacon dressing. Followed by hickory smoked, honey glazed ham, polish sausage, cajun corn, french cut green beens with mushrooms, bacon, and toasted slived almonds, german potatoe salad, garlic mashed potatoes and french rolls. Grand finale was a french cordon bleu "concorde". Baked chocolate merrange layered with chocolate mousse and covered in chantilly creme! Total decadence!!! A few good wines and everyone won!!!