And your kind of president played gulf when America was directly under attack and did not stop his hloiday any way and ignored the intelligence he received regarding the 9/11 attacks... and not even one time during his entire stupid presidency time he was the commandor in chief on Sundays and he actually almost never read the world news he admitted just after his time on power was finally over in America
Obama is in close contact with american commnadors in Iraq and in Afghanistan and actually he had an important meeting with the general secretary of Nato regarding the same reason yesterday morning.
Come on TT... you really think staying in touch is travelling there all the time and actually "disturbing" our guys that way because they so will have to use a lot energy to provide security for him and his staff in Afghanistan which is full of fentaic terrorists ? there is radio and internet and webcams and satelite communication and Air force one have it all being able to be the commandor in chief no matter where on earth the american president is... you are talking for the ignorant and thats ok if it works for you TT but still we are in the year 2009 you see?
Ten hours only, he is going to stay in Copenhagen and you should rather be proud of having a president who cares so deeply a bout his country and appearing in Copenhagen even this busy, to support his country for winning the nomination and Olympic means a lot jobs and great amount of money will be made by Chicago and well... I hope some radical repube heads are expelled from Chicago during the games if Chicago wins so they are not making trouble for the participants and for the tourists coming there to enjoy the games
Really TT... you guys are loosing your heads because of this fight agianst the presidency of your country. Are you able to tell any thing positive at all?
You must get your news from the Alien Network. What are you talking about? On 9/11 GWB was in Florida in a elementary school as the planes struck the towers.
Come on Dude put up or shut up. What inteligence specific and actionable did they have? I mean name of terrorists, times and planes....informant type stuff. Without that none of the 9/11 conspririacy stuff makes sense.
How long does it take to make a phone call? President Obama is connected to the net, has a blackberry, satellite phones and the the most advanced military communication system in the world at his disposal.
Yet he cannot contact the Commander of the AFghan war...the same war that he says is vitally important to win for the security of the country? Not even when the Marines are doing the Helmud province operations? Not even when Afgahn election are going on? Not even when the Taliban are increasing attacks in the country?
I cut him a lot of slack. But not here. Not when his military forces success and thier lives are on the line.
GWB when Franks invaded Iraq....GWB talked to him daily. When the second battle of Falluga was going on....again daily calls by GWB.
President Obama has regulated his Commander in Chief role to Sect. of Defense Gates. I have a really bad feeling I know why. Gates is a REP...the perfect scapegoat for a Afghan that has gone bad. Obama can say....was a REP war to begin with.....I was only the President, Gates made the decisions. I said nothing about traveling to Afghanistan...only about communicating....1 call in 70 days...is what McCrystal said.
Now that we know he really has no interest in winning in Afghanistan...because that is exactly what 1 call in 70 days means.....we know his devotion to the country and its national security is next to none. And his rhetoric on winning in Afghanistan and getting bin Laden was only words to get votes. He had no desire to do either.
usahater48: so Conrad your saying bush did not tell lies last time i checked Obama has not started any wars yet.
Around here....the Afghan war is considered the Obama war. He is the one that refocused the conflict to Afghanistan from Iraq during the election. Now we find out he is not even interested in the Afghan war.
Don't worry.....Putin, bin Laden, Pres. A., Chavez and Kim have Obama in a four square box. Consider them the bullies in the school yard. They have all the balls. Obama moved from one square to another....and one throws a ball (situation) at him....just like dodge ball. He goes to a different square, one one else throw a different ball. He cannot handle them all.
Media here is talking about 'shifting course' in the Afghan war.
I have a feeling I know what 'shifting course' is......
The first ACORN Criminal case went to court. 13 charges of of voter registeration fraud by the Las Vegas ACORN manger. He says the higher knew about a 20 per day registeration requirement. They say they did not know.
Before you say it is those REPs....picking on ACORN. DEM Attroney General in Nevada and DEM prosecutor in Las Vaegas brought the charges.
The first ACORN Criminal case went to court. 13 charges of voter registeration fraud by the Las Vegas ACORN manger. He says the higher knew about a 20 per day registeration requirement. They say they did not know.
Before you say it is those REPs....picking on ACORN. DEM Attroney General in Nevada and DEM prosecutor in Las Vaegas brought the charges.
ttom500: Around here....the Afghan war is considered the Obama war. He is the one that refocused the conflict to Afghanistan from Iraq during the election. Now we find out he is not even interested in the Afghan war.
Don't worry.....Putin, bin Laden, Pres. A., Chavez and Kim have Obama in a four square box. Consider them the bullies in the school yard. They have all the balls. Obama moved from one square to another....and one throws a ball (situation) at him....just like dodge ball. He goes to a different square, one one else throw a different ball. He cannot handle them all.
Media here is talking about 'shifting course' in the Afghan war.
I have a feeling I know what 'shifting course' is......
Obama war TT? What have you been eating lately? When the Bushney, started the war against Taliban in Afghanistan after 9/11 things went just fine in the begining and then your W decided together with Halliburton Cheney and Rumsfeldt and other monsters as those to forget all a bout Afghanistan and Pakistan where the real battle against terrorism shall be fought and decided to occupy an oil rich country and then Sh** happened and the result became a whole world suffering of the current economical crisis the Bushney,s have given us all !
If the Bushney,s did not stopped fighting Taliban and gave them true ease in all those years and waisting american lives and money on Iraq then there would be no war left for Obama any way in Afghnistan to day! Bushney,s began Afghanistan war and it was ok but still they all of sudden felt "oh my! If Taliban really is defeated what Idiot will ever vote republican any way"
Palin and Cheney and W and Limbaugh and O,reily and Hagee and others as those are all of sudden experts of health care ! did you see this stupid guy Hannity on FOX blaming Obama for draught and getting hailings and angry support from rednecks in the area shouting out loud? Blaming Obama?
Kick these repube heads in their behind major time Grayson!
Contra attack is the best methode because election is over for democrats but absoloutely not for republicans! Seeing acteresses acting real american families on TV and SH** like that and abusing peoples feelings and desperation to feed anger and stupidity?
Since the errored 1m Iraqi deaths quote, Dude. When you give us death numbers.....please give us source and cites.
Grayson just lost much of the MOD DEM support here in Florida with his comment. But I bet he is getting a lot of donation money in.
Also Grayson is facing sanctions on the house floor.....ala Wright got for his President Obama lieing comment during the address.
But this diversion stuff.
Not big potatoes.
Afghanistan is big potatoes.
The President had a war room meeting on it prior to his trip to Coppenhagen. Gates was there. H. Clinton was there. VP Biden was there......know who was not there? Theatre Commander Peatris. And Afghan Commander McCrystal. They met to 'define what a victory' is in Afghanistan. 3 months of transition....9 month of Presidency....and they ahve not figure out what a victory in Afghanistan is?
It is simple. Any first year plebe at West Point can tell you. You leave them laying on the battlefield.
How do you have a war room meeting without the two major field commander presence? Video conferencing? Maybe. But face it...face to face is better.
President Obama is digging his hole.....and it gets deeper and deeper. The only ones in country that can help him in Afghanistan are in the Pentagon and theatre commands.....and he cannot include them war room meetings......
This is President Obama war. Sorry. Just the way it is. He shifted the focus in the election from Iraq to Afghanistan. "I will get bin Laden" "We need to win in Afghanistan" "the real fight has been in Afghanistan". The American people bought his campaign rhetoric on Afghanistan. That is why it his fight.....
But as the situation worsen....and not being able to define a victory....it shows lack of situation control....and how inexperienced as a Commander in Chief he is.
Lastly. 100 Banks have failed since the economic crisis. Some are saying another 200-300 will fail. GM just decided to end the Saturn line of cars....figure another 50,000+ unemployed. Unemployment is still at 10%.
Though the stock market has climbed and the GNP has leveled out....consumer confidence is still low. Local auto firms are going out business in largely numbers. They cannot even sell the lots to other local businesses. Seems that cash for clunkers did not save the local auto firms....as the FED money did not make it time.
And.....guess what? Congress just approval a large package of benefits and expenditures for itself....in the billions for legislative purposes.
Hot_Single_Dude: Yeah... a real difficult job to mannage and absolutely the world,s most difficult job being the president of the world,s greatest military and economical power.
I wish now when America is under pressur because of the current economical situatiuon and beside under threats because of dark minded individuals in the middle east who are against the definition of real freedom and prosperity for their own people and salugthering who ever who is agaisnt them and their stupid ideology... then more americans becoming agree that as they supported W when America really faced difficulties they also support the elected president totaly agree with him or not and allowing him to begin furfiling his promises to the nation, the same LIES which made him winning the presidential election.
You need more ressources TT? What a bout your ressources? Speeches of Sarah Palin and concerns of Cheney and radio programs of Limbaugh and stuff like that ? By the way have Hagee still released a " Fatwa" against Barack Obama and his hard trying for creating a fair health care systems where all americans can be able to get help when ill?
Why you repube head guys always fighting for horrible BS which have to do with wars and greed and surviolence and poloution and suppression of americans and others and name calling human beings and making fun of the poor and the weak and the ill and not much else at all TT?
Are they "Aliens" these main thinkers of the republican party? From which planet they are originally and why are they so much against human beings any way? Is there a missing link in human evolution these guys are a result of? Planet of the apes some thing?
lookin4ubabe: Sorry...been gone for a while....who are you refering to with the sociopath post??
She is talking a bout me and I actually do not care for her anlysation at all. Find it rather interesting and typichal and am more sure that I am very right regarding most of my assumptions and trying to create a dialog and making the enemies of humanity to talk a bout why on earth they keep staying that way?
You need more ressources TT? What a bout your ressources? Speeches of Sarah Palin and concerns of Cheney and radio programs of Limbaugh and stuff like that ? By the way have Hagee still released a " Fatwa" against Barack Obama and his hard trying for creating a fair health care systems where all americans can be able to get help when ill?
Why you repube head guys always fighting for horrible BS which have to do with wars and greed and surviolence and poloution and suppression of americans and others and name calling human beings and making fun of the poor and the weak and the ill and not much else at all TT?
Are they "Aliens" these main thinkers of the republican party? From which planet they are originally and why are they so much against human beings any way? Is there a missing link in human evolution these guys are a result of? Planet of the apes some thing?
Be careful what you wish for!
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ttom500: President Obama delayed the decision for additional 40,000 troops to AFghanistan that Gen, McCrystal requested.
More troops will be sent to Afghanistan when there is a better plan regarding the next steps it shall be taken in this war agaisnt terror and suppression og human beings TT. A lot serious attempts regarding Afghanistan strategy is going on now on days and the detalies are coming soon. Give it more time because being in hurry is not the answer here and now.
Let the wise decide more and then the enemy will loose easier and more smoothly !
Dont mind the old war monger dude who now on days acting as the great councurer and keeps attacking the presidency ! If he was really that good he would not kill ameircan soldiers during the Vietnam war by "mistake" and knocking american war planes down as no other pilots and he would not becoming the Manchurain candidate and working so close with the "enemy" back then and against America,s interests and he would definately not begining a Dumb war against Russia together with his Georgian stupid president back then just to win the american preisdency!
Hot_Single_Dude: More troops will be sent to Afghanistan when there is a better plan regarding the next steps it shall be taken in this war agaisnt terror and suppression og human beings TT. A lot serious attempts regarding Afghanistan strategy is going on now on days and the detalies are coming soon. Give it more time because being in hurry is not the answer here and now.
Let the wise decide more and then the enemy will loose easier and more smoothly !
Dont mind the old war monger dude who now on days acting as the great councurer and keeps attacking the presidency ! If he was really that good he would not kill ameircan soldiers during the Vietnam war by "mistake" and knocking american war planes down as no other pilots and he would not becoming the Manchurain candidate and working so close with the "enemy" back then and against America,s interests and he would definately not begining a Dumb war against Russia together with his Georgian stupid president back then just to win the american preisdency!
Got more Revisionist History,but then you'll have to do what Master Obama does!
Where is your great champion of the Poor people Mr obama. Why is he not saying anything about the senior citizens and the poor. Social security is not going to recieve a raise for the next three years. They did under the republicans. Why are the seniors being required to pay more for the medicare under Mr obama. they didn't under the republicans. The most recient study shows that the poor are suffering worse than they ever have. but your savior of the people can bail out the banks . the auto industry. Now they are talking about bailing out the newspapers. but cut the life line to many very poor senior citizens. OOOH yea he can spend hundreds of thousand to go to Denmark but never bat an eye about the poor suffering people of this country.
Hot_Single_Dude: More troops will be sent to Afghanistan when there is a better plan regarding the next steps it shall be taken in this war agaisnt terror and suppression og human beings TT. A lot serious attempts regarding Afghanistan strategy is going on now on days and the detalies are coming soon. Give it more time because being in hurry is not the answer here and now.
Let the wise decide more and then the enemy will loose easier and more smoothly !
Dont mind the old war monger dude who now on days acting as the great councurer and keeps attacking the presidency ! If he was really that good he would not kill ameircan soldiers during the Vietnam war by "mistake" and knocking american war planes down as no other pilots and he would not becoming the Manchurain candidate and working so close with the "enemy" back then and against America,s interests and he would definately not begining a Dumb war against Russia together with his Georgian stupid president back then just to win the american preisdency!
Wow !!! stop the Lies already !!!! Bush shot down american planes Killed american soldiers by mistake My God I wonder if this post should be sent to the bush Family so they could sue for slander and dephimation. Maybe the only way to stop some people from lieing is to sue them and bring out the truth But whatever he got would go to charity. Huuum maybe two peanuts is all they could get from you. Bye the way what about the poor troops that are there in harms way right now Not haveing proper support while he makes up his mind on what he is going to do. While he travels around living like a King. Is he responsible for the deaths ?????
lonelycowboy101: Wow !!! stop the Lies already !!!! Bush shot down american planes Killed american soldiers by mistake My God I wonder if this post should be sent to the bush Family so they could sue for slander and dephimation. Maybe the only way to stop some people from lieing is to sue them and bring out the truth But whatever he got would go to charity. Huuum maybe two peanuts is all they could get from you. Bye the way what about the poor troops that are there in harms way right now Not haveing proper support while he makes up his mind on what he is going to do. While he travels around living like a King. Is he responsible for the deaths ?????
Not Bush Cowboy! The old war monger dude is John McCain and he killed american soldiers during the Vietnam war by "mistake" and actually because he had one of his many "angry" moments and was pissed off because of a discussion before the flight with another pilot and then he did the forbidden move and used the after burner on the deck and then... many american soldiers died on the deck of the carrier:
1967, USS Forrestall... 134 americans soldiers lost because of a very angry young man with a long story of anger and uncontrolled behaviour McNasty, who called him self a pilot and he even got a way with it because of his influential dadda!
That is the incident I am talking about Cowboy!
Bush did not kill american soldiers by mistake at all Cowboy! He sent them to a Dumb war because of greed and stupidity and those americans lost their precious lives because of a moron as the commandor in chief in the United States in the dark years of 2001-2008.
Mistake? Nah not really! a miscaculation based on pure stupidity and lack of care and just thinking profit and keeping the whole country and the most of the rest of us as a fool Cowboy.
Hot_Single_Dude: She is talking a bout me and I actually do not care for her anlysation at all. Find it rather interesting and typichal and am more sure that I am very right regarding most of my assumptions and trying to create a dialog and making the enemies of humanity to talk a bout why on earth they keep staying that way?
How funny...that is exactly why I quit posting to Obama threads...I was looking for enlightening conversation, but the only thing that I ever got was name calling, distorted facts and tabloid conversations...I was actually quite surprised that this thread was still going...but not surprised that it was all the same people!!! I do have to say that today...one Republican scored huge points with me, Senator Grahm from S.C. came out and said that he is so embarrassed by the looney's in his party that keep bringing up the "birth certificate" and "muslim" connections and that Obama is a good man and he wished his party would just stick to the issues dividing our country. He seems like a stand up guy! I think that if the Republican party stands a chance at saving their party that have to get rid of the lunatics!!
gemery: I always liked 'the weapons of mass destruction' in Iraq myself. 9 years later....I can't wait until they find them.
I also wouldn't mind seeing the price tag per month on the little middle east outings. Funny how nobody screams at the cost of that.
Americans, an interesting lot to sit back and ponder.
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Excellent point!! Now that we have a "real" threat in Iran..our military resources our limited because of the wasted allocation of resources in Iraq... and don't even get me started on health care reform!!
lookin4ubabe: How funny...that is exactly why I quit posting to Obama threads...I was looking for enlightening conversation, but the only thing that I ever got was name calling, distorted facts and tabloid conversations...I was actually quite surprised that this thread was still going...but not surprised that it was all the same people!!! I do have to say that today...one Republican scored huge points with me, Senator Grahm from S.C. came out and said that he is so embarrassed by the looney's in his party that keep bringing up the "birth certificate" and "muslim" connections and that Obama is a good man and he wished his party would just stick to the issues dividing our country. He seems like a stand up guy! I think that if the Republican party stands a chance at saving their party that have to get rid of the lunatics!!
thank you for your participation and I sure hope you would like to contribute more in here because me alone am not able to keep the liers on their place and what ever I say is not enough when americans them selves who are disagree with the right winged in here do not show up and telling their versions regarding America to day.
They love name callings, they love to call all those who disagree with them mentally ill and they love to lie and getting a way with it because there will be some individuals beleiveing in their lies and thats why they took power in America not only once by Cheat in year 2000, but also the second trum !
It is so out of touch with any kind of common sense to think a bout what the Obama administration is fighting for is creating a true compitition to the privately based health care in America so all americans have a possiblity of getting medical help when ill and not being forced to Death and disability because of being poor or unemployed... and then experiencing the amount of attacks agaisnt him and his administration because of that!
It is so disgusting to think a bout how selfish some human beings can be when they deny the truth and do not give a dman a bout more than 47 million americans with out a health care and more than 44000 americans Dying each and every year because they can not afford the cost of hospitalisation!
This is a kind of mass killings of americans indirectly in my eyes, and this time the "terrorists" are the insurence companies and still the right winged America keeps calling Obama names and insulting him and his family and his adminstration and thereating him and I dont know what just because he wants to furfill one of the very important promisses he gave during his campain! just imagine... 44000 human beings Dying each and every year then finding and stopping those horrible "terrorists" by the force of fairness is not some thing the right winged care much a bout and all they want, is to keep the current system and not sharing any thing with their own country men! Calling the ill and the poor and the unemployed names and making fun of other human beings misfortune and still calling them selves the one and only "Real" christians even!
There are sure some republican politicians who stand agaisnt the evil flow of lies and fear mongering movement the sad grumpy remainings of the Bushney heads inside the party have created to do what ever they can to make Obama Fail!
Please participate when ever you wish lookin4ubabe
lookin4ubabe: Excellent point!! Now that we have a "real" threat in Iran..our military resources our limited because of the wasted allocation of resources in Iraq... and don't even get me started on health care reform!!
Hot_Single_Dude: thank you for your participation and I sure hope you would like to contribute more in here because me alone am not able to keep the liers on their place and what ever I say is not enough when americans them selves who are disagree with the right winged in here do not show up and telling their versions regarding America to day.
They love name callings, they love to call all those who disagree with them mentally ill and they love to lie and getting a way with it because there will be some individuals beleiveing in their lies and thats why they took power in America not only once by Cheat in year 2000, but also the second trum !
It is so out of touch with any kind of common sense to think a bout what the Obama administration is fighting for is creating a true compitition to the privately based health care in America so all americans have a possiblity of getting medical help when ill and not being forced to Death and disability because of being poor or unemployed... and then experiencing the amount of attacks agaisnt him and his administration because of that!
It is so disgusting to think a bout how selfish some human beings can be when they deny the truth and do not give a dman a bout more than 47 million americans with out a health care and more than 44000 americans Dying each and every year because they can not afford the cost of hospitalisation!
This is a kind of mass killings of americans indirectly in my eyes, and this time the "terrorists" are the insurence companies and still the right winged America keeps calling Obama names and insulting him and his family and his adminstration and thereating him and I dont know what just because he wants to furfill one of the very important promisses he gave during his campain! just imagine... 44000 human beings Dying each and every year then finding and stopping those horrible "terrorists" by the force of fairness is not some thing the right winged care much a bout and all they want, is to keep the current system and not sharing any thing with their own country men! Calling the ill and the poor and the unemployed names and making fun of other human beings misfortune and still calling them selves the one and only "Real" christians even!
There are sure some republican politicians who stand agaisnt the evil flow of lies and fear mongering movement the sad grumpy remainings of the Bushney heads inside the party have created to do what ever they can to make Obama Fail!
Please participate when ever you wish lookin4ubabe
Thanks for your comments...you probably won't see me in here to much, it's like beating your head against a brick wall and frankly, it just became a waste of my time...because they relish in personal attacks instead of sticking to the issues...sorry you are going it alone....been there!! However, you can find comfort in the fact that the Dems have the power now...and they are just sore losers!!
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