Obama Rocks! Could the job being done better by republicans? (782)

Sep 21, 2009 1:11 AM CST Obama Rocks! Could the job being done better by republicans?
lonelycowboy101: Give me a break all you can see is the republicans. The Bushes . Both parties are crooks the clintons should have been investigated hundreds of times over especially the China money. but because he is demicrat he gets a free pass , What a hypocrit you are. You Slander and Lie on an American President and feel good about it . If you were in this country you would Know how bad the thieft and corruption is ! In detroit Dem run it is just a joke the mayor was prosicuted and they are just now finding all the dirty contracts that were done . It Chicago Dem run it is even called Chicago politics . The Govenor Of Ill. A dem tried to sell Mr Obama senate seat. Your ideas are like the old southern Biggets that hated the Black only because they were black but in this case you hate the republicans and Mr Bush I would hide in Denmark too. I feel sorry for someone that hates a whole group of people and can't see the side he is defending .
Somebody,somewhere turned on "DUDE",then after the Election forgot to turn him off.
He is in Freefall ever since,right along with his "Saviour"!rolling on the floor laughing
Sep 21, 2009 3:06 AM CST Obama Rocks! Could the job being done better by republicans?



What a O'Bummer

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The Games Politicians play......(Not by Joe South)
Sep 21, 2009 3:09 AM CST Obama Rocks! Could the job being done better by republicans?
lerald: How ignorant, you really are. Recessions are a necessary evil. When an economy goes through a recession, the companies with poor business plans end up either reorganizing their companies, or go bankrupt all together; effectively "trimming the fat" off of the economy, allowing for the companies who competed for business, and had a solid business plan, to absorb the extra business from the company who folded. Once the recession is over, the surviving companies are even stronger than they were before the recession hit.

Of coarse, this all can be undermined if/when a government gives these failed businesses bailouts.
Recessions are caused by Government Interference into the Economy!
Centralized Decisions on the Economy by Clueless Politicians.
Sep 21, 2009 3:14 AM CST Obama Rocks! Could the job being done better by republicans?
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
[]Total Capitalism has been a true failur where ever TT! That why americans economy collapsed because there is a true need for control and if the society is left to decide and no body stopping greedy and crimial individuals then the whole thing will collapse as it did since December 2007 when your friends were on power and destroyed the economy of your country and the economies of the rest of us as well!

What is in it for you any way TT?[]

I think we get to the heart of the matter here, Dude. American capitolism caused Communist Russia to fail in the 1990s.
Ever since then, there has been a world wide desire to fail American capitolism among liberals, socialists and communists.
So that what you just wrote could be written down in thier revised history books.

Think how then Senator Biden reacted when a Orlando TV station reporter asked the "Socialist question" last fall. Not only did he rebuff her by leaving the interview, and then the Obama campaign said they would not conduct interviews with ANY of the station reporters in the future. Such a over reaction to a largely innocent question.....is an indication of guilt.

Biden by the way was a long time pro capitolist. At this stage in his life he has a chance to be the second most powerful man on Earth. Biden knows what he is signing up for and what Obama stood for. They had already been playing golf together. Biden was Obama mentor. Biden only saw getting a cabinet position, so the VP offer was a surprise to him. Why did he get it?

Obama needed a white man on the ticket. For Racial balance. But he also needed a man on the ticket that would be in charge of the social changes that he would be making in the country. A man that few would consider to traded capitolism for socialism. Biden has been made lead in Health Care reform, economic reform and regulation, and TARP II. Biden's reaction to that question spoke volumes.

Think about you just wrote....'true need for control' and stopping the 'greedy and criminals'. Polar opposite to American capitolist values of freedom and responsibility for one's own life. One term assume quilt because of wealth. A capitolist can be someone that had earn his wealth honestly has no quilt associated to it. That is why when Biden accepted the Obama VP offer, he now had that element of guilt in him to react the way he did.

Liberals and socialists have wanted to make GWB and every other person associated to his adminstration, just that ...a criminal.
That is why the push for criminal charges around the world can be
heard on GWB and his conservative supporters. Why your thread here were an attempt to prove this criminality. 1 million deaths in Iraq, remember? But we both know that was a lie.

I am not a rich man and don't intend to be. I am a just and fair man. When I see Americans turning from the laws of our countries foundation. To accepting such as ACORN voter registeration fraud to win office, to altering our countries foundation of freedom and enterprise, to now beginning to allow "take control" with a unknown CZARs hidden in the shadow of government. I speak out on it.

Being that just and fair man...I know guilt when I see it.....when Biden walked out of the TV reporter interview last fall.....he left because of his quilt of trading those American values for Obama's socialism.

And what does President Obama and his socialism want from me? Nothing more than my vote to remain in power. My work to provide taxes. My consenting to his reforms and regulations over those historical values of America that made the country great.

Like all socialists, they want a man's free spirited soul. To be traded for political correctness, rules of the small group and fear of government. That is what Joe Biden traded for in accepting the VP nomination. That is why Joe Biden could not answer that innocent question to millions of after the Joe the Plummer addressed Senator Obama with it earlier.

That is what is in for me.
Sep 21, 2009 3:39 AM CST Obama Rocks! Could the job being done better by republicans?
Hot_Single_Dude: Time flies for sure! Obama administration have been on power for more than seven mounths now and the job is absoloutely tough and the challenge is huge . The new american administration are trying hard to keep its promisses and the forces against are fighting hard as well to make it fail exactly as it is any where when one politichal party wins against the other and the defeated ones trying to destroy any thing the new government tries to accomplish.

Hearing positive news regarding american economy is of c ministration have not been with out meaning.

Obama have been travelling to many places and have been holding fabulous speaches calling for communication and negotiation and his wise words have made millions of human beigns from several countries to see a true strength in this man and a deep wish to stop the difficulties or at least hoping for the same in the near feauter.

Hard to solve conflicts are still not over and the problems between Israel and palestinians are still existing but still there are no major battles in the area no more and even Obama is not the best cup of tea for the ultra right winged government of Israel, but still concidering the fact about Isreals very existens is based on the economical and military help of the United States then the Israeli government will have to ”listen” to America and behind the sceans there are really many negotiations going on and I am more than sure that those negotiations are going to lead to a possible real peace in that very important area sooner than any pessimistic and ever negative people can imagine.

Syria is silent and have chosed to stop making trouble for a while and there are rumors a bout a serious need for Syrian government becoming an acceptable member of the world sociaty and by that being able to stop their huge economical problems and being able to make money on tourists who can come there and seeing their great historical places once a gain is the main engine in the peacefull direction.

Iran… well a very very hard place and people there are battling hard to be able to sense the freedom after too many years with monsters on power and I am more than sure that this regim will leave soon because winds of change have even ritched that hard place and iranians have heard it clearly and want to be free and then no body can stop them again!
I am more than sure that during Obama administration the monster regim in Iran will be history exactly as Apartheid was history during Clinton years even almost no body beleived it could ever happen back then.

In the United States the battle now on days is a bout the one and only health care reform… this is not the first time some administration is trying to do some thing a bout it and the last very serious attempt happened during Clinton years by Hillary Clinton but she was set a side and asked to stop from big capital health organistations all of a sudden and her work was forgottena and never leaded to any real reforms any way.

This time Obama is the cheif and then I beleive there is a real chance for solving this horrible matter and this really complicated puzzle and as told befroe the president who really solves this problem and making it possible for all americans affording health care will have his face on doller bills some day and oh my... this is exactly what Republe heads knwoing and thats why they try so intensive to make these plans fail and using what ever rumors and lies and of course some facts as well to make it fail and make in never becoming reality.

countinues....
Damn you're living in a Makebelieve,Twilight-Zone,Rocky Horrorshow world!
You need to stop digging,and climb out the Hole you dug for yourself!
You remind me of little Courage!laugh

Sep 21, 2009 4:12 AM CST Obama Rocks! Could the job being done better by republicans?
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Well TT... the real money to find is hidden deep amoung the sad stincky remainings of the Bushney,s empire and be sure W and Cheney and many others like those are investigated too and many crooks and liers and thieves of the past rotten regim are going to pay back major time soon.

But of course if there are bad elements in ACORN then the law will get them as well.


When President Obama gives us a transpent accounting of the TARP II moneys....of which only 10% have been spent so far.......and considering his campaign gave ACORN some $800,000 in donations....
and when he figures out that ACORN was getting a lot of Federal Government moneys.....and when we find out what 260 drop mail box business operations inside ACORN headquarters are for.......
any corruption inside the GWB administration is going to seem like a small hole in the dike that one could plug with his finger.
Visions of the little Dutch boy plugging the leaking dike, there.:-) But when Obama administration and the ACORN audits come out....the dike is going to have crack in a so big you can drive a Abrams tank thru it.:-)

By the way....Obama has been successful in surrounding himself with yes men or men that can be pressured. The head of the CBO (Congressional Budget Office) ....the bi partisan group that did the negative budget projection on the Obama Health Care....was invited to the White House....after which he proceeded to give a new and revised budget estimate on the Obama Health care plan....that did not show any negative effect on the countries deficit but actually made money for the country of some $40b.

He went from a 2 trillion deficit impact (over 10 years) to making
$40b (over 10 years) after a single visit to the Oval Office and a meeting with the enlightened one. Funny things happen in that room these days. I hear there is a glowing white light around the entry door door jam when closed. I would have like to been a fly on the wall to listen to this conversation.
Sep 21, 2009 4:50 AM CST Obama Rocks! Could the job being done better by republicans?
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Last little bit of budget info I gained recently.

I have been interested to see if the DEMs claims to the Iraq war expenditure of $10b being the cause of the economy failure was a
accurate one.

Back in 2006-7...someone asked that question...will site the study...if desired. Of the DoD's post 9/11 spending 'increases' to 2007... 37% went to the Iraq war. 63% went to Afghanistan and Homeland Security.

The thing I am have a hard time following in the DEM logic here. Is that for every $10b per month going to Iraq....$20b per month was going to Afghanistan and Homeland Security. But that $20b did not cause the economic failure...only the $10b per month going to Iraq did.

Why? Well to DEM logic...the war in Afghanistan is justified one and the homeland security spending was needed to fight terrorism. But we don't have 'terrorism' any more under the Obama policy of don't see and don't talk it. And of course that justified Afghan war does not need troop increases to win. Curious yes?

The '$10b per month' was a nice campaign number to rally Americans tired of the Iraq war to the Obama cause. In reality if the DoD budget increases over the time caused the economic failure....the
money spent for Homeland Security and Afghanistan had twice the negative impact as Iraq. But neither the DEMs or President Obama did mention them as the cause.
Sep 21, 2009 4:58 AM CST Obama Rocks! Could the job being done better by republicans?
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
ttom500: Common Conrad...asking Dude to read and understand Solzinhenzin is like asking one of our Florida Alligators to stand and do a tap dance.
doh
Sep 21, 2009 5:05 AM CST Obama Rocks! Could the job being done better by republicans?
Sparky55
Sparky55Sparky55Somewhere, Afghanistan48 Threads 1 Polls 2,678 Posts
One of those options is actually possible. You can decide whichlaugh
Sep 21, 2009 5:05 AM CST Obama Rocks! Could the job being done better by republicans?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
Conrad73: You all are the Real Thieves,you are stealing Man's Soul!


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Sep 21, 2009 5:38 AM CST Obama Rocks! Could the job being done better by republicans?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
ttom500: Last little bit of budget info I gained recently.

I have been interested to see if the DEMs claims to the Iraq war expenditure of $10b being the cause of the economy failure was a
accurate one.

Back in 2006-7...someone asked that question...will site the study...if desired. Of the DoD's post 9/11 spending 'increases' to 2007... 37% went to the Iraq war. 63% went to Afghanistan and Homeland Security.

The thing I am have a hard time following in the DEM logic here. Is that for every $10b per month going to Iraq....$20b per month was going to Afghanistan and Homeland Security. But that $20b did not cause the economic failure...only the $10b per month going to Iraq did.



First of all, your figures are ridiculous.
The total cost of the US wars since 911 (Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan,..) is not 10b.
The wars cost about a billion a week at present.
Back in the initial invasion period it was a billion per day.

There is a running clock of the war expenditures at this site.

At this moment the clock is at 912 billion and counting.

And yes, along with the fact that the US was already broke and in debt to start with, the war costs are what finally brought on the long overdue depression.

The sub-prime situation was just the weak point in the levy.
Inflation, due to decades of fiscal insanity and war costs was the hurricane.

And still the US continues massive deficit spending.
Assuring that the depression will deepen.
We ain't seen nothing yet.
Sep 21, 2009 5:46 AM CST Obama Rocks! Could the job being done better by republicans?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
Sorry ttom500.
I misread your post.
I see now that you said 10b per month.
My bad.
Sep 21, 2009 5:55 AM CST Obama Rocks! Could the job being done better by republicans?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
Nobody has to make Bush a criminal.
He was born for the role.

But then so is Obama.

Same agenda really.
War-fiscal insanity-police state.
Nothing has really changed except the cosmetics.
Sep 21, 2009 6:16 AM CST Obama Rocks! Could the job being done better by republicans?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
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Very well said ohio19.
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Sep 21, 2009 6:29 AM CST Obama Rocks! Could the job being done better by republicans?
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
RayfromUSA: Sorry ttom500.
I misread your post.
I see now that you said 10b per month.
My bad.


No biggie, Ray....done it myself.
Sep 21, 2009 8:34 AM CST Obama Rocks! Could the job being done better by republicans?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
ttom500:
It is amazing...the United States can save boy's life in remote Afghanistan. But is getting ready to risk American trauma injury patients to prolonged suffering and death so that President Obama can have a medical coverage for 'all' Americans.



And you have no idea just how far things will fall when Obaminable Healthcare kicks in.

I won't get into details, but I will say I am now seriously handicapped and dying from a neurological condition that would have been diagnosed and treated many years ago if French doctors weren't pressured to always minimize everything they do.

The assumption is that the patient is always exagerrating, so the doctor assumes his condition is far less serious than the patient thinks it is.

In my case (and many others) the result is that my condition went totally untreated for years and now it is killing me.

To hell with socialized medicine.
You are better off paying out of your own pocket than allowing the state any sayso about your health.

Realize that in can be in the state's interest that the elderly, the handicapped, or even the healthy but unemployed die prematurely.

Don't think it can't happen.
Sep 21, 2009 8:38 AM CST Obama Rocks! Could the job being done better by republicans?
bigdipper59
bigdipper59bigdipper59adelaide, South Australia Australia9 Threads 52 Posts
N O
Sep 21, 2009 8:41 AM CST Obama Rocks! Could the job being done better by republicans?
bigdipper59
bigdipper59bigdipper59adelaide, South Australia Australia9 Threads 52 Posts
WHAT EVER NOW YOU HAVE TO PUT UP WITH IT.
Sep 21, 2009 8:47 AM CST Obama Rocks! Could the job being done better by republicans?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
ttom500: I defend GWB quite a bit.


We are lightyears apart on the subject of GWB.

I believe he was fully involved with planning the 911 attacks and the subsequent wars. All for profit and the globalist hidden agenda of some very evil people including himelf.

There's no way we'll ever agree on all that.
Maybe time will make the truth more evident.
Sep 21, 2009 8:52 AM CST Obama Rocks! Could the job being done better by republicans?
kev147
kev147kev147Dublin, Ireland12 Threads 5 Polls 373 Posts
RayfromUSA: We are lightyears apart on the subject of GWB.

I believe he was fully involved with planning the 911 attacks and the subsequent wars. All for profit and the globalist hidden agenda of some very evil people including himelf.

There's no way we'll ever agree on all that.
Maybe time will make the truth more evident.


hey im no gwb fan i think he's an idiot and i'm so happy obama is in now but to say he was involved in the 911 attacks is just ridiculous,
hes a bad politican not a mass murderer
Sep 21, 2009 8:53 AM CST Obama Rocks! Could the job being done better by republicans?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
bigdipper59: WHAT EVER NOW YOU HAVE TO PUT UP WITH IT.


Ain't that the truth.
Sep 21, 2009 8:59 AM CST Obama Rocks! Could the job being done better by republicans?
lonelycowboy101
lonelycowboy101lonelycowboy101Caro, Michigan USA9 Threads 6 Polls 441 Posts
RayfromUSA: We are lightyears apart on the subject of GWB.

I believe he was fully involved with planning the 911 attacks and the subsequent wars. All for profit and the globalist hidden agenda of some very evil people including himelf.

There's no way we'll ever agree on all that.
Maybe time will make the truth more evident.


You are correct the world Globalist have been planning this for a long time, They feel they are about to achieve there goal . The carbin tax is one of there vehicles . I believe the swine flu is also . It is not Just george Bush but all the former presidents of late and a good portion of the senate and congress along with many of the richest people in the world . have a great day
Sep 21, 2009 9:00 AM CST Obama Rocks! Could the job being done better by republicans?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
kev147: hey im no gwb fan i think he's an idiot and i'm so happy obama is in now but to say he was involved in the 911 attacks is just ridiculous,
hes a bad politican not a mass murderer


I'm sure I could persuade you otherwise if you would be willing to look objectively at the evidence, but it's pointless now.

Bush'll get the just reward for his actions one day, just as we all will.

But right now we have the Obaminable Snowjob to worry about.
Sep 21, 2009 9:02 AM CST Obama Rocks! Could the job being done better by republicans?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
lonelycowboy101: You are correct the world Globalist have been planning this for a long time, They feel they are about to achieve there goal . The carbin tax is one of there vehicles . I believe the swine flu is also . It is not Just george Bush but all the former presidents of late and a good portion of the senate and congress along with many of the richest people in the world . have a great day


We agree on all that.
You have a good day too.
Sep 21, 2009 9:06 AM CST Obama Rocks! Could the job being done better by republicans?
lonelycowboy101
lonelycowboy101lonelycowboy101Caro, Michigan USA9 Threads 6 Polls 441 Posts
I defend Bust most of the time also . Now the global elete Have created bin laden , they plan and fund to put one country against another . or one fanitic group against another . They believe in a one world government run by them the a population of no more than 500 Million . there is a realy good site that can help people learn this it is infowars.com run by Alex Jones
Sep 21, 2009 9:56 AM CST Obama Rocks! Could the job being done better by republicans?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Sparkey...

Well if things are going worse than hoped then there will be more troops and better techniques to defeat the enemy in afghanistan and Pakistan soon I hope and assume. I beleive Talibanees are feeling a great danger against them and thats why they show up and then they are easier to get for our boys and gilrs who are doing a brave and fabulous job ove rthere.

Still it is more than important that american public specially keep supporting their troops and stop listening to the sad reminins of the horrible Bushney,s regim who now on days have chosed to work indirectly in benefit of Alqueda in Afghanistan and Pakistan just to gain stupied kind of politichal victory for their party in America and by that weakening the morality of brave soldiers who are risking their lives for us all and should be free of thinking a bout some stupid treasury hunters in the States whose main results is weakening of foreign troops in that area and not a damn thing else!

I am right here Sparkey and supporting the troops over there and you who are there should better stay firm behind your president and by that behind your countrymen who are fighting for this great cause and that is to eliminate the danger of more terror agaisnt us all. And if you dont like the heat and do not dare to stay in a battle zone as my self then come home soon, you see? Who knows? Get back to US and stand beside professor Palin and spread BS all over the United States and have "fun" that way! Tea parties really need a guy like you misterlaugh

I think it will be better to increase the amount of support for northern Afghanistan as well as in other parts of the country where the direct battle is going on. When the amount of civil support increases then the hard battle in south will be supported more from afghan people and then the enemy agaisnt us all will be weakened. I beleive more attacks done by drons is better than endangering the lives of our soldiers and of course lost of civilian lives should be avoided.

Well what do I know? I am not a military guy and just know Alqueda is absolutely necessary to defeat and thats why I salute more than 60,000 brave and honorable american troopps and more than 40 tousand troops form other countries in the area with all I am able to.

Yes... it is a hard battle and the geography of the area makes it more difficult and the enemy over there is hard and strong but still we got the biggest guns and thats why these stupid talibanee AH,s shall learn to show more respect... but still the main need is to make majority of americans specially to understand that the republican party and other supporters of those who are calling them selves a lot names but are repube heads any way... are doing a real favor to Alqueda now on days in the USA and americans should become able to see the inner enemy as well rahter than allowing them selves serduced by those trying to weaken foreign soldiers in Afghanistan just to make Obama administration fail and gaining politchal "victory" for them selves this way!

Shame on those who are not able to get it still and have no brain to get it either!barf

Really Sparkey... you have been there too long time I beleive and thats why you think too much and need a break from the area. Get back home and gather your thoughts, write a book or some thing because I am sure frustration of the current situation have make you tired and when people are tired they are not able to calm down and thats when catastrophies happening. Stay well Sparkey and take a break. Your fellow american soldiers need support and nothing else right now!
Sep 21, 2009 9:58 AM CST Obama Rocks! Could the job being done better by republicans?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Conrad73: You all are the Real Thieves,you are stealing Man's Soul!
A man wiht out Soul have not soul to steal any way conrad
Sep 21, 2009 10:04 AM CST Obama Rocks! Could the job being done better by republicans?
lonelycowboy101
lonelycowboy101lonelycowboy101Caro, Michigan USA9 Threads 6 Polls 441 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Fu** them all Conrad


Clueless !!!! Conrad has brought up educated points when uneducated people can't talk inteligently they resort to FU** and all sorts of foul language. All you can ever do is slander, Lie, and fabricate . Do you wear a white robe and Pionted hat and go around looking for Republicans and all those that suport them ?
Sep 21, 2009 10:04 AM CST Obama Rocks! Could the job being done better by republicans?
Hot_Single_Dude: A man wiht out Soul have not soul to steal any way conrad
look in the mirror,son,you're the atheist.rolling on the floor laughing
Sep 21, 2009 10:08 AM CST Obama Rocks! Could the job being done better by republicans?
lonelycowboy101
lonelycowboy101lonelycowboy101Caro, Michigan USA9 Threads 6 Polls 441 Posts
Conrad73: look in the mirror,son,you're the atheist.


Conrad don't get into this ! Don't lower yourself to his level . It would be better to talk to a stone or maybe not a stone doesn't hate all the rocks that don't look like it.
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