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Jan 21, 2010 9:07 AM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
ttom500: I hope it is not with a shot gun.......
rolling on the floor laughing
Jan 21, 2010 9:20 AM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
ttom500
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How is that Obama batting average doing? If he withdraws from Afghanistan without clearing the country of Taliban and alQeada....that has to be consider a L. If he does and they return from Pakistan after the withdraw.....that is a L.

If he halts funding the Pakistani because they are not aggressive on the Taliban....that is an L.

I don't see any W's there. But liberals have funny ways of counting and determining Ls and Ws. Still think his batting average is at .300?
Jan 21, 2010 9:32 AM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
ttom500
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Media here has picked up Brown MA win....as being "Mr. Smith goes to Washington"....how about that???

Brown drove the state in his pick up truck campaign. He did house to house hand shaking walks asking for support and votes. He ran a Mr. Smith kind of campaign.

Brown's win has set "old Washington" on its ear. Maybe, we finally got some change...some real change. Brown is young. He could make a run for the White House in 2012 either as VP or Pres. We know that junior Senator, without a lot of expereince...can win such a run.

Brown and Palin in 2012? Has a nice ring to it.......
Jan 21, 2010 9:47 AM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: What do think happens when the US withdraws from Afghanistan and stops funding Pakistan's counter terrorism operations? Can anyones say....Iran becomes the regional power broker....and these two terrorist laden countries become the surrogates of Iran?

It is not a win, Dude. For both will export terrorism at Iran's directions for a long time in the future.


No ! The damn regim of the mullahs in Iran will soon be over and out as told before and then a whole planet will breath with more ease.

Dont ever think that the administration of Obama is going to keep the Mullahs strong as the Bushney,s did just to keep being elected and because they had not much esle to provide the country with other than fear for other nations and blah blah blah like that so they could keep putting more blood money in their stincky pockets grin

Really TT... if Obama adminstration gets Osama Bin Laden and then if during Obama on power the regim in Iran gets the hell out of the planet Earth also because of real sanctions against them and because of american help toward free flow of information to Iran and out of Iran as it happily happens now on days plus a huge amount of moral support of iranian people... would you still being against Obama administration? what is the next move agaisnt his government TT? Any republican strategies regarding the next excuses against Obama you want to share in here?
Jan 21, 2010 9:51 AM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
Hot_Single_Dude: No ! The damn regim of the mullahs in Iran will soon be over and out as told before and then a whole planet will breath with more ease.

Dont ever think that the administration of Obama is going to keep the Mullahs strong as the Bushney,s did just to keep being elected and because they had not much esle to provide the country with other than fear for other nations and blah blah blah like that so they could keep putting more blood money in their stincky pockets

Really TT... if Obama adminstration gets Osama Bin Laden and then if during Obama on power the regim in Iran gets the hell out of the planet Earth also because of real sanctions against them and because of american help toward free flow of information to Iran and out of Iran as it happily happens now on days plus a huge amount of moral support of iranian people... would you still being against Obama administration? what is the next move agaisnt his government TT? Any republican strategies regarding the next excuses against Obama you want to share in here?
I don't trust you Prophecies any longer!uh oh
Not that I ever did!laugh

I doubt if you are clear in your mind what we are dealing with in Iran!
Jan 21, 2010 9:51 AM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: Media here has picked up Brown MA win....as being "Mr. Smith goes to Washington"....how about that???

Brown drove the state in his pick up truck campaign. He did house to house hand shaking walks asking for support and votes. He ran a Mr. Smith kind of campaign.

Brown's win has set "old Washington" on its ear. Maybe, we finally got some change...some real change. Brown is young. He could make a run for the White House in 2012 either as VP or Pres. We know that junior Senator, without a lot of expereince...can win such a run.

Brown and Palin in 2012? Has a nice ring to it.......
Yeah sure TT... the Dumb and the Dumbest for 2012 or better say Beavis and Butthead the best possible choice for republicans in 2012 grin dancing
Jan 21, 2010 9:53 AM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
Hot_Single_Dude: Yeah sure TT... the Dumb and the Dumbest for 2012 or better say Beavis and Butthead the best possible choice for republicans in 2012
Congrats to that Landslide in MAS!
Maybe the Voters are trying to tell someone something.laugh
Jan 21, 2010 2:08 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
ttom500
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Hot_Single_Dude: No ! The damn regim of the mullahs in Iran will soon be over and out as told before and then a whole planet will breath with more ease.

Dont ever think that the administration of Obama is going to keep the Mullahs strong as the Bushney,s did just to keep being elected and because they had not much esle to provide the country with other than fear for other nations and blah blah blah like that so they could keep putting more blood money in their stincky pockets

Really TT... if Obama adminstration gets Osama Bin Laden and then if during Obama on power the regim in Iran gets the hell out of the planet Earth also because of real sanctions against them and because of american help toward free flow of information to Iran and out of Iran as it happily happens now on days plus a huge amount of moral support of iranian people... would you still being against Obama administration? what is the next move agaisnt his government TT? Any republican strategies regarding the next excuses against Obama you want to share in here?



That is the biggest IF, you have written about. Because until President wants to step inside Iran with boots on the ground to remove those Iranian clerics and to do a bin Laden search in the one country were much of his immediate family have taken refuge....I would say that IF is long way from being accomplished.

There is not going to be any "Mission Accomplished" for President Obama until he figures out Iran. And he is along ways from doing so.

I am hardly against the Obama Administration. I sit at desk with 7 thank you letters on it from the present White House. Mind you my reports were not on health care or internal issues of this country.
But on issues outside the country.

And I don't want to see President Obama fail. He is doing that well enough without my assistance.

He just went after the big banks.....and the stock market took a dive. They just found the first cases of inflation coming into the market place since the TARPs. And he has 10% unemployment in the country. With 41 REP in Senate to filibuster any radical liberal legistation and DEMs back pedaling on health care and other bills.....such as climate control....faster than a speed bullet.
I don't need to fight against President Obama. I can retire.....which is exactly what I intend to do.

How can a man that is retiring, be a thorn in President Obama side?
LOL.......no, my job is done here......Mr. Smith (e.r. Mr. Brown) is headed to Washington. And a new crop of savvy and decent conservatives are coming along behind him. Carrying Bibles and firearms....they will respect the Constitution and our fore fathers. Even be able to site the 10 Commandments and load a Smith and Wesson blind folded.

They will be well funded (from Corporations giving) by the ruling of today's Supreme Court....that says corporate giving needs more freedom....than the DEM passed campaign legislation allowed. A main reason, that Sen. McCain lost in 2008.

So to keep the Presidency President Obama...better turn into a cross between John Wayne, Ghenous Khan, and Alexander the Great
when it comes to the middle east and Islamic terrorism. Else my fine liberal friend, his days are numbered in the White House.
Jan 21, 2010 2:39 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Brown's MA Senate win just fractured the DEM house vote on passing the Senate Version of Health Care. This now coming from none other than Nancy Pelosi......"The House lacks the vote to OK the Senate Health Bill".

Pelosi said it would be 'problematic' to pass the Senate version.
"Problematic", my rossey red behind. It means that the DEM in the house saw their seats being voted away in 2010 and 2012 if they tried.

Did you know that there was sequel to "Mr. Smith goes to Washington?". The original 1939 movie was such a hit....the Frank Carpa, the producer....planned a sequel. This time named..."Mr. Deeds comes to Town". Gary Cooper was to be the lead actor.

If the House would have passed the Senate Version of Health care, after the Brown MA win.....Mr. Deeds would have come to the town in droves in 2010 and 2012.

So you better get out the big paint brush for smearing Mr. Smith, and Mr. Brown, and Mr. Deeds, and Mrs. Palin. You got a lot of work to do, to save President Obama and the DEMs in the next few years.
Jan 21, 2010 2:47 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Jan 21, 2010 2:49 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
ttom500: Brown's MA Senate win just fractured the DEM house vote on passing the Senate Version of Health Care. This now coming from none other than Nancy Pelosi......"The House lacks the vote to OK the Senate Health Bill".

Pelosi said it would be 'problematic' to pass the Senate version.
"Problematic", my rossey red behind. It means that the DEM in the house saw their seats being voted away in 2010 and 2012 if they tried.

Did you know that there was sequel to "Mr. Smith goes to Washington?". The original 1939 movie was such a hit....the Frank Carpa, the producer....planned a sequel. This time named..."Mr. Deeds comes to Town". Gary Cooper was to be the lead actor.

If the House would have passed the Senate Version of Health care, after the Brown MA win.....Mr. Deeds would have come to the town in droves in 2010 and 2012.

So you better get out the big paint brush for smearing Mr. Smith, and Mr. Brown, and Mr. Deeds, and Mrs. Palin. You got a lot of work to do, to save President Obama and the DEMs in the next few years.
Wonder if Dude will follow that advice!laugh

Kenny Rogers - The Gambler

Jan 21, 2010 2:56 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Conrad73: Wonder if Dude will follow that advice!

Kenny Rogers - The Gambler




You got to know when to hold em, and when to fold em....nothing like a little high stake Texas holden poker, Conrad.

REP play in their dorm rooms at colleges, as liberals shout and carry protest signs in the snow outside. Please tell me who has more common sense? REP cut their teeth on the game.

Like Lee Trevino said.....nothing like a $50 dollar bet on a putt when you got $5 in your pocket for giving a man confidence.laugh rolling on the floor laughing
Jan 21, 2010 6:15 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
A litte more info on to be Senator Brown.

He is a Lt. Col. in the Army Reserves. Served 3 terms in the MA House and three terms in MA Senate. No word if he has done tours in Iraq and Afghanistan.

When signing autographs in Washington, today......he signed his name and the number '41'. So he has a sense of humor.

He speaks well. MA voters definitely knew that he was against both FED Health Care and Cap and Trade.

He won 65% of the IND MA vote. Obama won 56% in the 2008 election.

DEM that have worked with him....says that he works across the aisle and votes the issue. If the issue is good for the people, he supports it no matter which side prepped and wrote it.

He has two years remaining on former Senator Kennedy term. So runs for re-election.........in.........2012.
Jan 21, 2010 6:25 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
Well, Dude loses another one. Too bad the Democrats can't control either the house or the senate with significant majorities.
Maybe the people will actually win one!
Jan 21, 2010 6:42 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
ttom500
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Hugo Chavez got into the news today. How I am not quiet sure. But he managed to crawl into it.

He is accusing the US....of testing a earthquake device near
Haiti that caused the quake of 9 days ago. According to Chavez, the reason that the US is building and testing this device.....is cause earthquakes in Iran....to overthrow the present regime.

Considering the 200,000 people lost there lives in this quake. 1000s more injured. Property damages into the billions and the cost of the
international relief effort......I say put up or shut up, Hugo.

Give us proof. Not some wacked out, drugged out sceinctist with a bone to pick with US or a family sitting in one of your jails. But photos of the device. Technical measurements of its energy release when the testing occurred. American service men or women with so much guilt for killing 200,000 people, they have to whistle blow.

If any one wants to believe Hugo Chavez and his claim, have it. Show me the proof. Am more than willing to present to proper parties here in the US and in world. To the media for you.

But with out proof. Hugo...put a sock in it.
Jan 22, 2010 1:17 AM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: That is the biggest IF, you have written about. Because until President wants to step inside Iran with boots on the ground to remove those Iranian clerics and to do a bin Laden search in the one country were much of his immediate family have taken refuge....I would say that IF is long way from being accomplished.

There is not going to be any "Mission Accomplished" for President Obama until he figures out Iran. And he is along ways from doing so.

I am hardly against the Obama Administration. I sit at desk with 7 thank you letters on it from the present White House. Mind you my reports were not on health care or internal issues of this country.
But on issues outside the country.

And I don't want to see President Obama fail. He is doing that well enough without my assistance.

He just went after the big banks.....and the stock market took a dive. They just found the first cases of inflation coming into the market place since the TARPs. And he has 10% unemployment in the country. With 41 REP in Senate to filibuster any radical liberal legistation and DEMs back pedaling on health care and other bills.....such as climate control....faster than a speed bullet.
I don't need to fight against President Obama. I can retire.....which is exactly what I intend to do.

How can a man that is retiring, be a thorn in President Obama side?
LOL.......no, my job is done here......Mr. Smith (e.r. Mr. Brown) is headed to Washington. And a new crop of savvy and decent conservatives are coming along behind him. Carrying Bibles and firearms....they will respect the Constitution and our fore fathers. Even be able to site the 10 Commandments and load a Smith and Wesson blind folded.

They will be well funded (from Corporations giving) by the ruling of today's Supreme Court....that says corporate giving needs more freedom....than the DEM passed campaign legislation allowed. A main reason, that Sen. McCain lost in 2008.

So to keep the Presidency President Obama...better turn into a cross between John Wayne, Ghenous Khan, and Alexander the Great
when it comes to the middle east and Islamic terrorism. Else my fine liberal friend, his days are numbered in the White House.
Great move toward stopping banks becoming reason to furter meltdown of american economy again later on in deed! Of course some times later, republicans will unfortunatily take over a gain and then they will return this very important step to the same Sh** it has been but still a lot positive van be made during Obama,s two turms on power.
Yeah ! Decent my you know where... rolling on the floor laughing
Jan 22, 2010 1:36 AM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: Brown's MA Senate win just fractured the DEM house vote on passing the Senate Version of Health Care. This now coming from none other than Nancy Pelosi......"The House lacks the vote to OK the Senate Health Bill".

Pelosi said it would be 'problematic' to pass the Senate version.
"Problematic", my rossey red behind. It means that the DEM in the house saw their seats being voted away in 2010 and 2012 if they tried.

Did you know that there was sequel to "Mr. Smith goes to Washington?". The original 1939 movie was such a hit....the Frank Carpa, the producer....planned a sequel. This time named..."Mr. Deeds comes to Town". Gary Cooper was to be the lead actor.

If the House would have passed the Senate Version of Health care, after the Brown MA win.....Mr. Deeds would have come to the town in droves in 2010 and 2012.

So you better get out the big paint brush for smearing Mr. Smith, and Mr. Brown, and Mr. Deeds, and Mrs. Palin. You got a lot of work to do, to save President Obama and the DEMs in the next few years.


Really you guys are good making the smallest victories looking like if the whole thing is over and out thumbs up

Democrats really shall learn from you guys and standing more firm in what they acheive and what they have resulted in because they fortunatily have taken over! It is so easy to win over the quiet and as you mentioned before there is not even much fun with out debates and stuff and democrats have really been given your guys a lot space to say what ever and doing what ever and the situation in MA is because of this of course.

One year time after the presidency only and your guys have been busy shouting loud amoung americans whom have lost their lifehood and jobs and saving because of the most stupid presindet in american history and that is George w. Bush, No TT! This is not because the administration have been a failur or any thing like that it is because the situation is so complicated as it is and it is because the problems are of this huge volume and you know this better than me as well.

Really!" if any democrats are in here PLEASE and for gud sake learn this from repube heads!

NEVER stop the politcal battle and keep fighting for your ideas and never forget that the oponents are ready to do what bloody things ever to win the presidency next time. Dont ever take any thing as given before you know fo sure! professor conversing
Jan 22, 2010 2:23 AM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Really you guys are good making the smallest victories looking like if the whole thing is over and out

Democrats really shall learn from you guys and standing more firm in what they acheive and what they have resulted in because they fortunatily have taken over! It is so easy to win over the quiet and as you mentioned before there is not even much fun with out debates and stuff and democrats have really been given your guys a lot space to say what ever and doing what ever and the situation in MA is because of this of course.

One year time after the presidency only and your guys have been busy shouting loud amoung americans whom have lost their lifehood and jobs and saving because of the most stupid presindet in american history and that is George w. Bush, No TT! This is not because the administration have been a failur or any thing like that it is because the situation is so complicated as it is and it is because the problems are of this huge volume and you know this better than me as well.

Really!" if any democrats are in here PLEASE and for gud sake learn this from repube heads!

NEVER stop the politcal battle and keep fighting for your ideas and never forget that the oponents are ready to do what bloody things ever to win the presidency next time. Dont ever take any thing as given before you know fo sure!


Nancy Pelosi......the number three....in the Obama Administration
has said "Health Care as it now stands is dead". She does not have the votes to pass it in the House. Even with a majority in both the Senate and the House AND the Presidency for over 1 year period of time, the DEMs could not pass the central key piece of legislation that they have been pressing for decades.....health care. The central key legislation that Obama campaigned on.

It is not the REP fault. Not when they don't have power and votes.
Rather it is the failure of the DEM leadership to bring forth a
health care bill that could be explained to the American people,
brought mid road REP into supporting it, and was financially and structurally viable.

In 1 year of totally controlling this government, other than TARPs what key piece of legislation has the Obama Adminsitration passed, and signed? Think about it......I do, I don't come up with many or even any.

This idea of 'political battle' in America....is one that is self defeating. We were not structured by the Constitution, to operate like a Parlimentarian system where political battle is the norm. But rather one of compromise of position for the benefit of the people and to make a better government. In other words, aisle crossing.

But the left and liberal administration of the Obama Presidency decided that they could go a 'one party government'. Hence all the political games of not reading bills, of keeping REP out of the process, of back room deals between DEM to pass legislation. They felt after the November win, they had a Mandate for such a government.

That is how out of touch they were with the American people, that through the summer and the fall told them in town hall and in tea party......that is not what they were elected to do.

In MA the people said something different than this mandate. They said this will be a government of compromise and of two parties .....even though most were DEM and IND. American people's voice is going to force this liberal Administration to understand and to respect the spirit of the Constitution and the two party system.

If this Administration and liberal DEMs do not like it. They can leave Washington. Humbled and beaten, not by the people that voted them into office. But rather by their own refusing to compromise and respect the political opposition of the country and their fellow Americans.
Jan 22, 2010 2:34 AM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
Hot_Single_Dude: Really you guys are good making the smallest victories looking like if the whole thing is over and out

Democrats really shall learn from you guys and standing more firm in what they acheive and what they have resulted in because they fortunatily have taken over! It is so easy to win over the quiet and as you mentioned before there is not even much fun with out debates and stuff and democrats have really been given your guys a lot space to say what ever and doing what ever and the situation in MA is because of this of course.

One year time after the presidency only and your guys have been busy shouting loud amoung americans whom have lost their lifehood and jobs and saving because of the most stupid presindet in american history and that is George w. Bush, No TT! This is not because the administration have been a failur or any thing like that it is because the situation is so complicated as it is and it is because the problems are of this huge volume and you know this better than me as well.

Really!" if any democrats are in here PLEASE and for gud sake learn this from repube heads!

NEVER stop the politcal battle and keep fighting for your ideas and never forget that the oponents are ready to do what bloody things ever to win the presidency next time. Dont ever take any thing as given before you know fo sure!
I doubt you have any Inkling how a Republic and Democracy works.
Sadly you are stuck deep in tribalism,and try palm it off as a worldsaving panacea!scold
Jan 22, 2010 8:33 AM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
The Senate District that Brown won. Was the former district of the Lion of the Senate for 40 years. The man that wrote Health Care district. The DEM district that the Kennedy political machine made from.

I know that this does not mean much to you. But here in the US, to
those Senate and House members, that have hardly the machine, history or family name it does. Brown's win is very significant to them. They just saw a liberal political machine of 40 years broken.

That is why the DEM fractured in the house over the Health care. That is why Nancy Pelosi does not have her 218 for passing Health Care in the House. These things don't happen without reason.

Before the election Coakly got the support from a long list of DEMs, including the President. They put their endorsement on her, their stamp of approval, their recommendation to fill that seat of Ted Kennedy's.

The people of the Lion of the Senate district, rejected not only Coakly but this list of DEMs. That is why this is not just a small victory.

As for Mr. Deeds coming to town. )) 14 incumbant REP are retiring in 2010. 5-6 DEMs are retiring as well. So right now at least 20 new Mr. Deeds are coming to Washington in 2010. That number of retirements will grow the closer we get to the election. To 40 maybe 50 by the time we get there. REP are going to be finding Brown like canidates to run. Canidates that can bring IND, REP and disillusioned DEM to the ballot box.

REP are going to be looking to co op the tea parties...which I told you were IND, REP and disillusioned DEMs....and bring them into their voter block. Those people were called all sort of vile names and disrespected by the leaders of this government. They are going to vote a block this year and likely in 2012. They just did in MA and the two Gov races of this year.

DEMs so mis read the tea parties. Underestimated their strength in numbers. Their ability to glavanize a voter block. And to bring forward new ideas and new issues. While REP leaders like Grinrich, Palin, Huckabee were both behind the scenes and in open support of them. So yes the tea parties can be co op into the REP.

Like I said before the MA election.....President Obama went to there and said in support of Coakly...'let your voice speak' .....MA voters spoke and now the President is very quiet on what he heard from them.

But now the bad guy on the block are the big banks?......the same big banks that the DEM TARPed out of bankruptcy to the tune of billions of American Tax dollars? The same banks that were 'to big to fail'? All of sudden a little regulation is going to make them to big fail? By stopping their risky investments? Those same risky investment as the ACORN forced loans that they made? Not those risky investments! But the ones at the commodities market or stock market.

DEM are going to find the debate brought right back to ACORN and risky lending of FANNIE and FREDDIE that was also forced on the big banks. Because they failed to find a total solution to 2008 economic crisis in their Committee hearings. And presently REP Posey (R) has my paper on that cause and a possible legislated solution for it in review.
Jan 22, 2010 9:28 AM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
ttom500: You got to know when to hold em, and when to fold em....nothing like a little high stake Texas holden poker, Conrad.

REP play in their dorm rooms at colleges, as liberals shout and carry protest signs in the snow outside. Please tell me who has more common sense? REP cut their teeth on the game.

Like Lee Trevino said.....nothing like a $50 dollar bet on a putt when you got $5 in your pocket for giving a man confidence.
Yep!thumbs up laugh
Jan 22, 2010 8:23 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Barney just made the arguement to close Fannie and Freddie. To restructure how housing is financed in the country. This after
REP got testy after learning that the Presdient of Fannie was getting 6m in bonuses this year.

As one REP said.....he gets 6m in bonuses for losing billions.....

But of course Fannie and Freddie had nothing to do with the economic crisis of 2008. Not that they have not failed 6 times since being chartered after the Great Depression. No cycle of failure here, it was all big banking failure. We all know that, President Obama has told us so.

Does seem strange to close Fannie and Freddie when they are in prefect condition and running so smoothly. It was Frank's finance commmittee that had oversight of the two quasi gov't agencies. He said that back in spring of last year. But now after tasting some of the toxic loans they made....decided that enough is enough. The GWB Administration and McCain canidancy can take a hit of this failure cycle, but not the Obama administration. So junk them and start over.

Well Barney, your oversight is in question as well. Maybe we should just begin by junking you the next time you are up for re-election.
Jan 23, 2010 5:01 AM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
President Obama told us we need to 'fight'. He said it (or some word derivative of fight) 14 times in a town hall in Cleveland, yesterday.

Seems like President Obama is following Dudes advice here.....sees a political battle or employment battle or Taliban battle.....around every corner and behind every tree.

Like I mentioned in earlier post.....President Obama....to win in
2012....was needed to become a cross between John Wayne, Ghenious Khan and Alexander the Great....in the middle east.

Such a speech would work better at West Point, talking to cadets that would actually be going to the middle east, than to auto workers that have lost their jobs. A President needs to inspire, yes. But approraitely.

I think that this is President Obama big disconnect now. Something that aided him to win the nomination and election....was his ability to connect at the local level with a broad based platform. So broad in fact, that one could hear anything in that that they desired.

Now in office, the broad base approach does not work anymore. Specifics and details do. How are are you going to bring the unemployment down from 10%? What are the specific military goals and objectives in Afghanistan?

Specific answers to specific issues and problems of the country.

Pres. Clinton had a similar economic problem early on in his administration. He did a few things that might be advised for President Obama to consider.

1) He stopped trying to be leader of his party....and worked to be leader of the country.

2) He distanced himself from Congressional and Staff advice unless it detailed and specific to the problems. He cut out the 'camp followers' and the 'yes men' from his agenda time.

3) He spent an hour or 2 each day in in quiet reflection and thought to the issues faced.

These are good things for this President that has faced much and will face much more in the near future to consider. But to get the Cleveland auto worker into a 'fighting mode' is not the answer.
Rather working across the aisle with REP is.
Jan 23, 2010 5:25 AM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
ttom500
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The US Marines are out of Iraq. Yep, they just turned over their last mission area to the US Army. Good JOB Marines. Come home and have a brewski. Some R and R time.

But like always ...leave it to the Army to clean up after you.laugh

They will need to add a new line in the Marine Hymn for Falluga, Ramadi and Anbar.

The last Marines should be out of Iraq in several month time.
Safe travels, Jar heads.
Jan 23, 2010 5:54 AM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
Hot_Single_Dude: Great move toward stopping banks becoming reason to furter meltdown of american economy again later on in deed! Of course some times later, republicans will unfortunatily take over a gain and then they will return this very important step to the same Sh** it has been but still a lot positive van be made during Obama,s two turms on power.
Yeah ! Decent my you know where...
You are really pre-occupied with that part of your anatomy!wow rolling on the floor laughing
Jan 23, 2010 5:56 AM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
Hot_Single_Dude: Really you guys are good making the smallest victories looking like if the whole thing is over and out

Democrats really shall learn from you guys and standing more firm in what they acheive and what they have resulted in because they fortunatily have taken over! It is so easy to win over the quiet and as you mentioned before there is not even much fun with out debates and stuff and democrats have really been given your guys a lot space to say what ever and doing what ever and the situation in MA is because of this of course.

One year time after the presidency only and your guys have been busy shouting loud amoung americans whom have lost their lifehood and jobs and saving because of the most stupid presindet in american history and that is George w. Bush, No TT! This is not because the administration have been a failur or any thing like that it is because the situation is so complicated as it is and it is because the problems are of this huge volume and you know this better than me as well.

Really!" if any democrats are in here PLEASE and for gud sake learn this from repube heads!

NEVER stop the politcal battle and keep fighting for your ideas and never forget that the oponents are ready to do what bloody things ever to win the presidency next time. Dont ever take any thing as given before you know fo sure!
WATCH AND SEE!laugh
Jan 23, 2010 6:41 AM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
Conrad73: WATCH AND SEE!
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Jan 23, 2010 7:22 AM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
redkayak
redkayakredkayakStuart, Florida USA3 Threads 1 Polls 512 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Who is the one fair enough to define who is a so called Freeloader and who is not then? the common man on the street whould be the judge? Should they like pointing at the single mom in the supermarked using food stamps to buy food for her kids and making fun of her and pushing her around and judging her right there with out having a clue a bout how this mother,s life actually have been and what life situation made her living of well fare?

Who should be the judge? You? Joe the Plumber ... Not? Palin? Limbaugh?

If the system gets better to find employment for human beings then good with me and the same system is the one should becoming better of finding out a bout who abuses the system and who is not and is in real need!

It is like "the justice of the street" I am opposed to! Not too many years before, the neighoberhood made a decision and hanged the poor fellow if they were agree on him being the guilty just because of being at the wrong place on the wrong time or looking like some body "sure" guilty because of his colour for example and again in the so called modern time people having a dark coloured beard or wearing a head scarf were concidered being "terrorists" with out knowing a Di** a bout who these people really were and stuff and the same stupid way of judging human beings happens regarding those many people seeing upon as "free loaders" with out having a clue a bout their personal problems what so ever and the "judges" are the normal persons tired after a working day and allowing them selves finding each other in a Bar and becoming the head of the street justice and condumning others!

The stystem must take care of illegal issues and not the common man on the street! Wild wild west was some how "romantic" but as a matter fo fact a stupid time as well because there were no much real justice any way you see?

Oh yeah... leaving my house frequently and have travelled almost any where you can imagine and US is my favorite place to spend vacations and when ever I need quality time with my family members and loved ones and friends and if I have time of course... Why do you think I care a bout America then and wishing peace and stability and more laughter and better times and universal health care plan and recovering of the economy and strength and victory against terrorism and other positive for the United states and have used so much of my precious time writing in here for mounths? Care mister... CARE!

I know this thing a bout some americans Hate it if people from other countries having any ideas what so ever regarding America but as a matter of fact you cant do much a bout this because we are some how all americans and the bounds between US and the rest of the world are as strong as your self and the strong bounds you have to what ever country you are from originally as all others immigrants living in US of A! At least you are a so called "Indian" and then ...ok... you are really really REALLY american your self

We all love the United States of America and that,s why we care!
live with it



Note to Dude:

You have to be the most delusional person in the history of internet forums. Your rambling tirades and predictions are very amusing but just too long, can you try to shorten them up a wee bit? I do have a two serious questions for you since you think Obama is our Savior......1) Do you think Obama deserved the Nobel Peace Prize? a)If yes why? b)If no, do you think he should have accepted it and why? Please try to contain your response to less than a million words? 2)Do you take medications that cause your delusions?

And just to let you know, WE ALL CARE about our country over here. I'm glade your vacations to the USA have given you more insight about the USA than the people who actually live here, damn, I wish I was that smart....WTF Dude....
Jan 23, 2010 7:26 AM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
Geoboy34
Geoboy34Geoboy34Springfield, Oregon USA32 Posts
I like how all your posts are pro-Obama. And the options are pro-Obama predominantly. Your a socialism nut case just like Obama. Tell you what..when he is voted out of office in 2012 you guys can gladly have him!!!
LOL....
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Jan 23, 2010 11:10 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Reaching back to the campaign tricks of 2008, President Obama has asked David Plouffe (former campaign manager) to come into the White House to assist with DEM elections. This in reaction to Brown's MA win.

Also he put together a bi partisan committee to study the FED gov't deficit.

So?

On one side he is trying to strengthen the DEMs for 2010. Now clearly seeing that a major reverse in the American voter taste has occurred, he wants to use Plouffe to aid running DEM campaigns of 2010.

On the other side, the bi partisan committee is aimed at one of his biggest problems and weakest areas. The FED gov't deficit. Were in the fall, REP plan to make hay in argueing his bills and spending are the cause of the problems, not solutions.

Smart politicing after this week of DEM disasters.

With 11 months to go before 2010 elections, the question is do the DEM have the time, funds and ability to enact and sign some major bills, run campaigns that rejoin IND interests, fight two wars and fix the economy. The odds on that are long. Only in Las Vegas would you find odds makers willing to take the bet. Las Vegas, home of Harry Reid, so who knows? Maybe they can pull it off.

The bi partizan committee is a step across the aisle. It is only the second, that I know of he has had since taking office. The first was on Iran shortly after taking office. Yours truely had a role forming in that one.

But as long as the DEM see themselves with a 2008 mandate to big gov't the FED gov't. There is going to be friction in the system.
Those deficit numbers ain't shrinking as the FED gov't swells.

Congress needs to give him line item veto. Something he campaigned for. It is the surest and fastest way to stop earmark spending, and Congressional turkeys riding on needed bills.

Line item veto is the best way also to reform the gov't. If you get bills that have little merit from Congress....veto the funding lines that support them. This is also why Congress has refuse to give it. They don't want the Executive office to have that kind of power over their legislation.

And DEM don't like the idea that a future REP President could have line item veto. Those earmarks and Turkey, they write help to keep voters at home happy.

So can he get line item veto? I don't know. But I bet it is one of the recommendations to come from the REP on that deficit committee. If he can, it also means that he has full control of the DEM party that does not want to give it up. If he does not get it, it means that shoe is on the other foot.

Hang on to your hats kids, this is going to be an interesting ride till Nov, 2010.
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