Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans! (843)

Dec 21, 2009 7:58 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
BlainX
BlainXBlainXmansfield, Ohio USA205 Threads 188 Polls 1,424 Posts
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Dec 21, 2009 7:59 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
menu2
menu2menu2Near Galveston Island, Texas USA2,106 Posts
BlainX: !!!
Told ya....We WIN!!!banana peace peace yay handshake cheers
Dec 21, 2009 8:00 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
BlainX
BlainXBlainXmansfield, Ohio USA205 Threads 188 Polls 1,424 Posts
Amend DUDES proposal ---

FREE LOVE TO ALL!!!banana peace dancing handshake
Dec 21, 2009 8:00 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
alexey8
alexey8alexey8Tel Aviv, Israel10 Threads 4 Polls 1,496 Posts
BlainX: Fourth,

End All wars

Except that civil one in Somalia


laugh What are you Dude's campaign manager now? dunno

laugh Can you book him for a book signing tour in Northern California next week? dunno rolling on the floor laughing

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Dec 21, 2009 8:01 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
odessaukraine48
odessaukraine48odessaukraine48odessa, Uzbekistan26 Threads 925 Posts
i have freedom and i live in Ukraine. so there goes that saying home of freedom.
Dec 21, 2009 8:02 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
BlainX
BlainXBlainXmansfield, Ohio USA205 Threads 188 Polls 1,424 Posts
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Party time! wave
Dec 21, 2009 8:02 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Alex...

Thank you for your post and you are right Alex. I still beleive the reform suggestion of the new administration will be a true positive step forward and from this one step forward to ritch a real universal health care coverege which really is helping all americans in need is a long way and difficult to ritch in the next many years at least.

I just think it is interesting to think a bout here in Europe an averege of six procent of the taxation money is used for health care coverege of all europeans and even the system is not perfect but still is way fabulous calling an ambulance if some thing happen and not thinking a bout "oh my gud! How am I ever going to be able to pay the price if some major treatments are needed"? It is fabulous being able to call in the middle of the night and a doctor comes to ones home and helping you with no charge and getting hospitlised until you are treaded and back home and no stupied insurence companies getting an evil lawyer running after you and threatening to put you and your family on the street if not paying the bills fast with interest!

One from my friends was visiting some family members in US and she passed out because of blood presur and was hospitalised for eight days and received fabulous and proffesinal care...BUT! when back to Denmark she received a bill which sounded like 83000 us dollers! Some other from my family in US have paid a bill from one single oporation in California in the last 14 years and still not finished paying back! Another one from my family was refused to find a health care company to cover his wife and had to move to another state and finding another job and and paying a lot money to some people to "help" him so he could find an insurence covering his family, because the wife have a blood disease and then companies just kept refusing them coverage! there is a true mess going on in America and regarding the current health insurence coverege a lot unfair happening each day all over the country.

A positive step forward is better than nothing and just accepting the status quo and hoping for hand outs and so called wealthy samatarians are going to make more tv shows and paying the cost of the hospitalisation of some few americans and stuff like that I beleive!

I think there is a real need for finding out a bout how come american government actually uses more money for each amercian than we use here in Europe but still there is no universal coverege in America any way?

Have the health insurence companies had too free hands to do what ever they want to do and to create any kinds of bills they want to and sending it to the government and are they cheating the american nation because of lack of propper regulation and then calling it "freedom" and "real american values" and by that shuving the nation with BS?

Where does the money go any way? No body can claim it is because of the payments or some thing because we get more here in Europe when working in health industry any way! Are the health industry players able to demans more money than they should get and are they keeping the prices up as they wish to by secret cooporation? What is this lobby folks doing any way? Who checks them and who makes sure they wont milk the nation with unfairly high payments to the health industry? And why the health system is actually a health industry and a place to make as much money as possible just like a factory or some thing?

How come a nation can uses missiles a million dollers each and still human beings must scape from their homes and changing identity because they cant ever afford the cost of hospitalisation?
Dec 21, 2009 8:03 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
alexey8
alexey8alexey8Tel Aviv, Israel10 Threads 4 Polls 1,496 Posts
odessaukraine48: i have freedom and i live in Ukraine. so there goes that saying home of freedom.


Its home of the free, land of the brave tongue

Heya Gary! wave handshake
Dec 21, 2009 8:05 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
odessaukraine48
odessaukraine48odessaukraine48odessa, Uzbekistan26 Threads 925 Posts
like must people who are in USA or from USA. i believe USA should have health care for the poor. i have seen times in my life. i had to make a home out of box's. unlike some i never forgot where i came from. howdy Alex.
Dec 21, 2009 8:05 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
Kattsrose
KattsroseKattsroseKind of near Portsmouth, NH, New Hampshire USA52 Threads 4 Polls 911 Posts
Does anyone know how many billion it cost to buy the votes for this so called health care reform?

The vast majority of the people I know DO NOT support this bill. That includes the uninsured and under insured.
Dec 21, 2009 8:06 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
BlainX: Amend DUDES proposal ---

FREE LOVE TO ALL!!!
You forgot the foruth proposal of mine ...

Hard punishment for all haters and specially those who suffer from homfobia and arresting them before they actually commiting a hate crime ! yay
Dec 21, 2009 8:06 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
menu2
menu2menu2Near Galveston Island, Texas USA2,106 Posts
BlainX: Party time!
Ohhhh!!!! Noooo!!!! Not again..check it out BlainX.very mad devil
Dec 21, 2009 8:10 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
Kattsrose
KattsroseKattsroseKind of near Portsmouth, NH, New Hampshire USA52 Threads 4 Polls 911 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: You forgot the foruth proposal of mine ...

Hard punishment for all haters and specially those who suffer from homfobia and arresting them before they actually commiting a hate crime !


So throw away the concept of innocent until proven guilty?

You'd have people thrown in jail even though they committed no crime? I hope your friend Obama has more respect for the Constitution and civil rights than you do.
Dec 21, 2009 8:11 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
odessaukraine48
odessaukraine48odessaukraine48odessa, Uzbekistan26 Threads 925 Posts
Kattsrose: Does anyone know how many billion it cost to buy the votes for this so called health care reform?

The vast majority of the people I know DO NOT support this bill. That includes the uninsured and under insured.
i,m not sure where you are getting your polls from. but must be asking republican voters. most democrats need and support health care.
Dec 21, 2009 8:13 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
menu2
menu2menu2Near Galveston Island, Texas USA2,106 Posts
Kattsrose: So throw away the concept of innocent until proven guilty?

You'd have people thrown in jail even though they committed no crime? I hope your friend Obama has more respect for the Constitution and civil rights than you do.
santa wavingthumbs up
Dec 21, 2009 8:13 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
alexey8
alexey8alexey8Tel Aviv, Israel10 Threads 4 Polls 1,496 Posts
Hey Dude! wave

Well, its a cultural problem too. In Europe you group up with these ideas, values, and systems. And in the US they have a different set. Things like Universal Health Care make sense in Europe and for the most part it is even accepted. Even, things like paying taxes is view differently. In USA, taxes are views always as something bad. No matter what the situation, the answer is always lower taxes, never raise taxes. You can't have government systems, organizations, and so on...without taxes. But, when you propose a new thing, you need money for it. And the problem is the way they get money is through taxes, and it immediately sends angry through most Americans...no matter how good an idea is. The idea of paying MORE taxes is always far worse. Of course, a lot of the time, you don't really need to raise taxes, but just shift where a percentage of the taxes go. Yes, there can be a small increase, or might need an increase. But, even when no increase is needed or made, people still see it as their taxes going up...because now it is saying 5% of taxes will go to the Organization, idea, plan, whatever. The tax money is already there many times, BUT, people assume its a new tax, but really that tax is being taken away from something else perhaps. Well, really confusing system tongue

Anyway, the key I am trying to say is this. In general, Americans HATE anything that involves raising taxes. So anything that involves increase taxes, automatically gets a hostile view against it. And then they use language like "tax payer's dollars" well, for the most part these tax payer's dollars are already be taken...just now they are going to be direct to something new.
Dec 21, 2009 8:15 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
alexey8
alexey8alexey8Tel Aviv, Israel10 Threads 4 Polls 1,496 Posts
Kattsrose: So throw away the concept of innocent until proven guilty?

You'd have people thrown in jail even though they committed no crime? I hope your friend Obama has more respect for the Constitution and civil rights than you do.



conspiracy to commit a crime dunno
Dec 21, 2009 8:16 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
odessaukraine48: i,m not sure where you are getting your polls from. but must be asking republican voters. most democrats need and support health care.
Weeeeeeeee Gary... yes you can thumbs up laugh
Dec 21, 2009 8:16 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
odessaukraine48
odessaukraine48odessaukraine48odessa, Uzbekistan26 Threads 925 Posts
yes Alex very true. the Americans kicked England out. because of taxes. dumped tea in Boston harbor because of taxes, just face it american hate new taxes.
Dec 21, 2009 8:18 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
alexey8
alexey8alexey8Tel Aviv, Israel10 Threads 4 Polls 1,496 Posts
odessaukraine48: yes Alex very true. the Americans kicked England out. because of taxes. dumped tea in Boston harbor because of taxes, just face it american hate new taxes.


and a bitter hatred for tea! uh oh


laugh okay just kidding about that part! tongue
Dec 21, 2009 8:20 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
odessaukraine48
odessaukraine48odessaukraine48odessa, Uzbekistan26 Threads 925 Posts
alexey8: and a bitter hatred for tea! okay just kidding about that part!
people in the south in USA drink sweet tea hate it. now hot tea is alright. coffee is better.
Dec 21, 2009 8:22 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
menu2
menu2menu2Near Galveston Island, Texas USA2,106 Posts
alexey8: Hey Dude!

just now they are going to be direct to something new.
It's being mentioned a WAR tax to be impsosed on the American tax payer.very mad devil
Dec 21, 2009 8:25 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
alexey8
alexey8alexey8Tel Aviv, Israel10 Threads 4 Polls 1,496 Posts
menu2: It's being mentioned a WAR tax to be impsosed on the American tax payer.


Unfortunately, with the current debt that has accumulated...I would not be surprised... uh oh

Shoot, if things keep going the way we are...we are going to have all kinds of crazy taxes. doh uh oh
Dec 21, 2009 8:25 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
odessaukraine48
odessaukraine48odessaukraine48odessa, Uzbekistan26 Threads 925 Posts
menu2: It's being mentioned a WAR tax to be impsosed on the American tax payer.
thats in case usa can find a country to attack that has oil. so you can count out durfur north Korea
Dec 21, 2009 8:27 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
alexey8
alexey8alexey8Tel Aviv, Israel10 Threads 4 Polls 1,496 Posts
odessaukraine48: thats in case usa can find a country to attack that has oil. so you can count out durfur north Korea


doh Gary, if the US attacks a country for "oil" the US government doesn't get rich...the private oil company does. sigh

Otherwise I would imagine the US would have accumulated a surplus rather then deficit

wink
Dec 21, 2009 8:30 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
odessaukraine48
odessaukraine48odessaukraine48odessa, Uzbekistan26 Threads 925 Posts
you may be right. but if the oil company's have the money they can buy more politicals. like bush Cheney. how soon we forget.
Dec 21, 2009 8:32 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
menu2
menu2menu2Near Galveston Island, Texas USA2,106 Posts
odessaukraine48: thats in case usa can find a country to attack that has oil. so you can count out durfur north Korea
Nope. The tax will be to keep our troops at Irque, and of course, to protect all oil ravenues for the Bush's and money hungry freaks. What's going on at Irque is not bout humanity nor freedom....it's OIL.very mad devil
Dec 21, 2009 8:32 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
alexey8
alexey8alexey8Tel Aviv, Israel10 Threads 4 Polls 1,496 Posts
odessaukraine48: you may be right. but if the oil company's have the money they can buy more politicals. like bush Cheney. how soon we forget.


wow Powerful lobbyist, pushing their agendas? dunno That would never happen. roll eyes




rolling on the floor laughing tongue
Dec 21, 2009 8:33 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
AmoroArboles
AmoroArbolesAmoroArbolesTacoma Area, Washington USA16 Threads 353 Posts
Kattsrose: Does anyone know how many billion it cost to buy the votes for this so called health care reform?

The vast majority of the people I know DO NOT support this bill. That includes the uninsured and under insured.


I have some numbers for you. $1,400,000 per day in DC spent by the Medical-Corperation lobbies, all year long!

The latest citizen polls show 66% against the new law in its present form.doh
Dec 21, 2009 8:35 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
Kattsrose
KattsroseKattsroseKind of near Portsmouth, NH, New Hampshire USA52 Threads 4 Polls 911 Posts
odessaukraine48: i,m not sure where you are getting your polls from. but must be asking republican voters. most democrats need and support health care.


Polls?

Reread my post, "The vast majority of the people I know".

PEOPLE I KNOW

That is people right here in the United States. Some vote Democrat, Some vote Republican, most for for a person not a party.

Are you claiming you have a better view of what the PEOPLE I KNOW want than I do?

If so you'd better be able to prove it.
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