Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans! (843)

Jan 20, 2010 6:35 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Cowhand: forgot to mention that is was a government change ... in the days of hope and glory ... for the money business The upper Class people.. who won our election for our parlament in 2000 that made the changes here..

Evrything has been more expensive since that change.... much less health care - Our Hospitals has to fire the employed... Wich means .. the ones working there must run faster ... do more hours ... because the government here must find a way to pay the bill.. For the costs...

and actually the worsed of all.... No one cares... but the ones who are fired... and they don't speek loud... Our PrimeMinnister still speeks loud.... about how good evrything is ... and that the crisis comes from outside our country - very much supported by The Danish Peoples Party - who blame immigrants for evrythin bad..... Because they look different... and behave strange!!
Yes brother! Where ever the stupid right winged taking over then Sh** happens and the same happened in little Denmark as well but I am definate that their time of being on total power soon will be history in this country as well...

Here in Denmark... George W. Bush is "still" the president of the United States and McCain became his VP ...laugh but people are waking up and there will be major changes here as well.
Jan 20, 2010 6:38 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
BlainX
BlainXBlainXmansfield, Ohio USA205 Threads 188 Polls 1,424 Posts
George Bush is the Pres. Of Denmark???
Then Dog-gone-it there's HOPE!
rolling on the floor laughing thumbs up
Jan 20, 2010 6:44 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
BlainX
BlainXBlainXmansfield, Ohio USA205 Threads 188 Polls 1,424 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Nast Nasty book(s) you study Blain! Change those and read some propper stuff instead


You mean? Like read the books of how to become a welfare recipient? Even though you're quite capable of working?
How to Fleece the nation?
How to live of those that work and help make a strong economy?
That type of book?confused
Jan 20, 2010 6:47 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
BlainX
BlainXBlainXmansfield, Ohio USA205 Threads 188 Polls 1,424 Posts
Dude even though I do give you credit for what you believe in as being your passion?

You're going to have to start thinking like the Majority of Americans think?
Which is---- Freeloader's Suck! thumbs up
Jan 20, 2010 6:53 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
BlainX: You mean? Like read the books of how to become a welfare recipient? Even though you're quite capable of working?
How to Fleece the nation?
How to live of those that work and help make a strong economy?
That type of book?
Nah not really Blain... Read a book of how to become a more humane personality and not controlled by huge amount of selfishness and be ready to share more of what you earn with the people of your country even you work hard... or how to accept that human rights is for all human beings working or not... or how to do some thing a bout the Claim of "loving" the country and not willing to contribute more to the same country throuhg more taxation and in that way making the same country a better place to live for all it,s inhabitants... or a bout accepting that not all human beings are able to work as hard as your self because of differnet issues and one should take the nail out of his brain and being able to imagine what if "I" am the one loosing what ever I got one day and then becoming dependent of help from the society? *Some thing like thsoe Blian... you know a bout Solidarity, Humanity, Civilized ways of creating more fair nations, Love, Brotherhood, Peace and all that grin
Jan 20, 2010 6:53 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
BlainX: You mean? Like read the books of how to become a welfare recipient? Even though you're quite capable of working?
How to Fleece the nation?
How to live of those that work and help make a strong economy?
That type of book?
Nah not really Blain... Read a book of how to become a more humane personality and not controlled by huge amount of selfishness and be ready to share more of what you earn with the people of your country even you work hard... or how to accept that human rights is for all human beings working or not... or how to do some thing a bout the Claim of "loving" the country and not willing to contribute more to the same country throuhg more taxation and in that way making the same country a better place to live for all it,s inhabitants... or a bout accepting that not all human beings are able to work as hard as your self because of differnet issues and one should take the nail out of his brain and being able to imagine what if "I" am the one loosing what ever I got one day and then becoming dependent of help from the society? *Some thing like thsoe Blian... you know a bout Solidarity, Humanity, Civilized ways of creating more fair nations, Love, Brotherhood, Peace and all that grin
Jan 20, 2010 6:57 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
BlainX: Dude even though I do give you credit for what you believe in as being your passion?

You're going to have to start thinking like the Majority of Americans think?
Which is---- Freeloader's Suck!
Free loaders can become some one as your self too Blain... Never ever beleive that life will stay the exact same and some day you or one from your lvoed ones might be the one who needs help and support form the society and then some others will call you a Freeloader as well but in my point of view those who dont understand the social issues of a country are a much worse enemies of the society and stability of the country than any body those types hate to support! dancing
Jan 20, 2010 6:58 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
BlainX
BlainXBlainXmansfield, Ohio USA205 Threads 188 Polls 1,424 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Nah not really Blain... Read a book of how to become a more humane personality and not controlled by huge amount of selfishness and be ready to share more of what you earn with the people of your country even you work hard... or how to accept that human rights is for all human beings working or not... or how to do some thing a bout the Claim of "loving" the country and not willing to contribute more to the same country throuhg more taxation and in that way making the same country a better place to live for all it,s inhabitants... or a bout accepting that not all human beings are able to work as hard as your self because of differnet issues and one should take the nail out of his brain and being able to imagine what if "I" am the one loosing what ever I got one day and then becoming dependent of help from the society? *Some thing like thsoe Blian... you know a bout Solidarity, Humanity, Civilized ways of creating more fair nations, Love, Brotherhood, Peace and all that


I believe the Marvin Gay song Lyrics

War is Not the Answer there's only love and peace.

BTW! I have donated to Haiti relief Fund
cheers
Jan 20, 2010 6:59 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
BlainX: I believe the Marvin Gay song Lyrics

War is Not the Answer there's only love and peace.

BTW! I have donated to Haiti relief Fund
I have donated to Haiti as well Blain!

You are a true gent my firend cheers thumbs up
Jan 20, 2010 11:42 PM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
DEM are reacting to what happened in MA (Brown's win). In two ways. One group says it is jobs, jobs, and more jobs. Another group is try to scale back health care. In fact, a new bill has already hit the floor.

One REP Representative said he thinks that there are less than 100 votes for the original health bill that the Senate passed in the house. With 218 needed to pass. DEMs are more optimistic.

But we could be headed back to square one on health care.

With a new scaled back bill hitting the floors, they will have to look at it.....meaning time.....which will give Brown time to be sworn in and sat. So? Now the REP Senate number is 41. Enough for a filibuster.

Maybe in Brown, MA sent Mr. Smith to Washington. In a strange kind of way. But refreshing to see it happen, if so.

On the jobs scene, a group of DEM went to President Obama saying that he needs to focus on job creation. That the Brown win reflects MA unemployment. MA unemployment is 8.8% compared to the countries 10.0%.

8.8% is not a figure to boost about, so the vote on Tues could reflect that. But I think that this was more a vote on dissatisfaction....with unemployment being part of it.....the polling showed a real dislike for the direction that the country was headed in MA prior to the vote.

These are strange political times we live in. The mood of the country swings quickly. Sometime on rumor, sometime on fact and sometime on events. I think that events in Haiti have caused some real deep concerns here. Certainly most all have to be considered negative for 200,000 people to die in such a manner. The fragility of life, can cause such vast swing in mood.....even hundreds of miles away.

Lastly, I think that Coakley was just a bad canidate to run. Some of things she said and how she reacted when a FOX reporter was knocked to the ground by a staff. Just showed a lack of political savvy. She did not campaign after gaining the DEM nomination for a time. Rather she let Brown slip up in the polls on her and he cut away her double digit lead the last two weeks of the campaign.

So the lessons in this one are....never count it a Senate won till
the vote has been counted. Coakley assumed she had a wrap on this office after gaining the DEM nomination.
Jan 21, 2010 12:32 AM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Some more bad Global warming science has come into the news. This time on science on the Himalayan glaciers. In one paragraph of the report alone, 5 errors were found. This is a UN report, so not a High School science report were typos and bad logic can be overlooked.

The report is a 2007 report that says that the Glacier of Himalayan were receeding. That by 2035, a pretty good chance that they would be gone. Only they transposed the year numbers, it should be 2350. It was written by a panel of Noble prize winning scienctist. They have since offered a apology and promised to be more careful in the future.

That is all fine and good. Opps we did it, we apologize. We will not do it in the future. But our position on Global warming has not changed.

At what point does lack of creditabily cause a change in position?
Likely different for each person on the planet. Some are die hard believers to their chosen issue and position. While others can adapt and say, hey I got it wrong....let me restudy it.....rethink it....or let me just drop the entire thing.

For Global warming sceptics, like myself....I would like to hear and read some hard line global warming supporters taking a more adapted positions. I am not saying...don't study the climate of the globe or the environment we live in.

Am saying if you got it wrong, don't sit on a errored position just to cling to a theory. There is no condemnation here, to alter your position. Heck, politicians do it all the time. Science can be tricky stuff. You make observations and preform tests, but it takes time to get the solid results from those observations and tests. I realize that global warming supporters can only go by the reports of such leading scientists to form their views.

But each time these flawed reports of some status, like this UN report, are made. Men and women in positions of gov't, business, and life are factoring it into their future decisions. The cost can be great...to employment, to GNPs, to new business opportunities, to the global warming debate in society. To the creditability of some Noble Prize winning scienctist as well, I might add.

Jan 21, 2010 12:57 AM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
redkayak
redkayakredkayakStuart, Florida USA3 Threads 1 Polls 512 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Nah not really Blain... Read a book of how to become a more humane personality and not controlled by huge amount of selfishness and be ready to share more of what you earn with the people of your country even you work hard... or how to accept that human rights is for all human beings working or not... or how to do some thing a bout the Claim of "loving" the country and not willing to contribute more to the same country throuhg more taxation and in that way making the same country a better place to live for all it,s inhabitants... or a bout accepting that not all human beings are able to work as hard as your self because of differnet issues and one should take the nail out of his brain and being able to imagine what if "I" am the one loosing what ever I got one day and then becoming dependent of help from the society? *Some thing like thsoe Blian... you know a bout Solidarity, Humanity, Civilized ways of creating more fair nations, Love, Brotherhood, Peace and all that


Do you ever leave your house? Have you ever been to the USA? Or do you just live in your cyberworld? I'm serious, have you ever experienced the freeloaders in the USA or any country? There's a huge difference between a "freeloader" and someone who NEEDS some assistence in hard times. Generation after generation of families on welfare that actually think their job is to make sure they dot all the I's and cross all the T's on the forms they need to file for their "FREE" monthly welfare check and food stamps. Some of these people have never worked a day in their life and are teaching their kids the same thing. Hence generation after generation OF "FREELOADERS". Should every human on the planet have free health care? Sure, but they have to do their part to earn it and contrubute towards it. We live in world of reality, not in your politically correct fantasy land...... drinking
Jan 21, 2010 2:00 AM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
There is a new UN report out.

On the lose of life in wars. Says that it is less than in generation before. About a 90% reduction since 1950s. Study was on African wars, and did not seem to include Iraq and Afghanistan.

But this supports that fewer died in Iraq than what has been suggested by many.



In other words, the estimate made in Europe on the Iraq war deaths by previous wars casuality figures was on the grossly high side.
Jan 21, 2010 2:08 AM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
ttom500: Some more bad Global warming science has come into the news. This time on science on the Himalayan glaciers. In one paragraph of the report alone, 5 errors were found. This is a UN report, so not a High School science report were typos and bad logic can be overlooked.

The report is a 2007 report that says that the Glacier of Himalayan were receeding. That by 2035, a pretty good chance that they would be gone. Only they transposed the year numbers, it should be 2350. It was written by a panel of Noble prize winning scienctist. They have since offered a apology and promised to be more careful in the future.

That is all fine and good. Opps we did it, we apologize. We will not do it in the future. But our position on Global warming has not changed.

At what point does lack of creditabily cause a change in position?
Likely different for each person on the planet. Some are die hard believers to their chosen issue and position. While others can adapt and say, hey I got it wrong....let me restudy it.....rethink it....or let me just drop the entire thing.

For Global warming sceptics, like myself....I would like to hear and read some hard line global warming supporters taking a more adapted positions. I am not saying...don't study the climate of the globe or the environment we live in.

Am saying if you got it wrong, don't sit on a errored position just to cling to a theory. There is no condemnation here, to alter your position. Heck, politicians do it all the time. Science can be tricky stuff. You make observations and preform tests, but it takes time to get the solid results from those observations and tests. I realize that global warming supporters can only go by the reports of such leading scientists to form their views.

But each time these flawed reports of some status, like this UN report, are made. Men and women in positions of gov't, business, and life are factoring it into their future decisions. The cost can be great...to employment, to GNPs, to new business opportunities, to the global warming debate in society. To the creditability of some Noble Prize winning scienctist as well, I might add.

Yep,read that one!
They are confused as hell!laugh
Jan 21, 2010 2:13 AM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
redkayak: Do you ever leave your house? Have you ever been to the USA? Or do you just live in your cyberworld? I'm serious, have you ever experienced the freeloaders in the USA or any country? There's a huge difference between a "freeloader" and someone who NEEDS some assistence in hard times. Generation after generation of families on welfare that actually think their job is to make sure they dot all the I's and cross all the T's on the forms they need to file for their "FREE" monthly welfare check and food stamps. Some of these people have never worked a day in their life and are teaching their kids the same thing. Hence generation after generation OF "FREELOADERS". Should every human on the planet have free health care? Sure, but they have to do their part to earn it and contrubute towards it. We live in world of reality, not in your politically correct fantasy land......
Dude doesn't exist,he is just a conglomerate of Electrons and Pixels,spouting the Whackiest Leftie-Stuff he can find on Huffington,CNN etc.
I wonder sometimes how a Human Being can so totally deceive itself.dunno confused
Jan 21, 2010 2:27 AM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
Italy101
Italy101Italy101union, New Jersey USA19 Threads 4 Polls 420 Posts
Universal Health Care is and always will be a great thing....But what most people aren't seeing, is the fact that where paying for it, when like most country's it should be free!....The government wants everyone to have it. And what there hiding from the public is. If you do not have health care through your employer. You will have to maintain it(It becomes mandatory) under there bill...The problem with that is most people cannot afford it...On average for a single person health insurance can cost as little as $1600 a month to the most of $2500 a month. What the government is trying to do is mandate it. You know the military law if you refuse to serve your country you have to serve 5 years in a military prison...This is what there doing again. If you don't maintain health insurance they will force you to maintain it,if you still refuse they will even put you in jail...And this i found out from an inside politician...It's the governments way of making more money for themselves...It would bring them in nearly ($10 billion dollars a year) in revenue.....Also as well, it would bring the pharmaceutical company's in nearly ($20-$30 billion) a year too... If this bill passes.... And it's a FACT!!!.....
Jan 21, 2010 2:29 AM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
Italy101: Universal Health Care is and always will be a great thing....But what most people aren't seeing, is the fact that where paying for it, when like most country's it should be free!....The government wants everyone to have it. And what there hiding from the public is. If you do not have health care through your employer. You will have to maintain it(It becomes mandatory) under there bill...The problem with that is most people cannot afford it...On average for a single person health insurance can cost as little as $1600 a month to the most of $2500 a month. What the government is trying to do is mandate it. You know the military law if you refuse to serve your country you have to serve 5 years in a military prison...This is what there doing again. If you don't maintain health insurance they will force you to maintain it,if you still refuse they will even put you in jail...And this i found out from an inside politician...It's the governments way of making more money for themselves...It would bring them in nearly ($10 billion dollars a year) in revenue.....Also as well, it would bring the pharmaceutical company's in nearly ($20-$30 billion) a year too... If this bill passes.... And it's a FACT!!!.....
Try explain that to Dude!laugh
Jan 21, 2010 8:02 AM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
redkayak: Do you ever leave your house? Have you ever been to the USA? Or do you just live in your cyberworld? I'm serious, have you ever experienced the freeloaders in the USA or any country? There's a huge difference between a "freeloader" and someone who NEEDS some assistence in hard times. Generation after generation of families on welfare that actually think their job is to make sure they dot all the I's and cross all the T's on the forms they need to file for their "FREE" monthly welfare check and food stamps. Some of these people have never worked a day in their life and are teaching their kids the same thing. Hence generation after generation OF "FREELOADERS". Should every human on the planet have free health care? Sure, but they have to do their part to earn it and contrubute towards it. We live in world of reality, not in your politically correct fantasy land......


Who is the one fair enough to define who is a so called Freeloader and who is not then? the common man on the street whould be the judge? Should they like pointing at the single mom in the supermarked using food stamps to buy food for her kids and making fun of her and pushing her around and judging her right there with out having a clue a bout how this mother,s life actually have been and what life situation made her living of well fare?

Who should be the judge? You? Joe the Plumber ... Not? Palin? Limbaugh?

If the system gets better to find employment for human beings then good with me and the same system is the one should becoming better of finding out a bout who abuses the system and who is not and is in real need!

It is like "the justice of the street" I am opposed to! Not too many years before, the neighoberhood made a decision and hanged the poor fellow if they were agree on him being the guilty just because of being at the wrong place on the wrong time or looking like some body "sure" guilty because of his colour for example and again in the so called modern time people having a dark coloured beard or wearing a head scarf were concidered being "terrorists" with out knowing a Di** a bout who these people really were and stuff and the same stupid way of judging human beings happens regarding those many people seeing upon as "free loaders" with out having a clue a bout their personal problems what so ever and the "judges" are the normal persons tired after a working day and allowing them selves finding each other in a Bar and becoming the head of the street justice and condumning others!

The stystem must take care of illegal issues and not the common man on the street! Wild wild west was some how "romantic" but as a matter fo fact a stupid time as well because there were no much real justice any way you see?

Oh yeah... leaving my house frequently and have travelled almost any where you can imagine and US is my favorite place to spend vacations and when ever I need quality time with my family members and loved ones and friends and if I have time of course... Why do you think I care a bout America then and wishing peace and stability and more laughter and better times and universal health care plan and recovering of the economy and strength and victory against terrorism and other positive for the United states and have used so much of my precious time writing in here for mounths? Care mister... CARE!

I know this thing a bout some americans Hate it if people from other countries having any ideas what so ever regarding America but as a matter of fact you cant do much a bout this because we are some how all americans and the bounds between US and the rest of the world are as strong as your self and the strong bounds you have to what ever country you are from originally as all others immigrants living in US of A! At least you are a so called "Indian" and then ...ok... you are really really REALLY american your self grin

We all love the United States of America and that,s why we care! live with it tongue
Jan 21, 2010 8:08 AM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
Steve5721
Steve5721Steve5721La Zenia, Murcia Spain72 Threads 2 Polls 4,564 Posts
Italy101: Universal Health Care is and always will be a great thing....But what most people aren't seeing, is the fact that where paying for it, when like most country's it should be free!.....


No Country supplies it for free my friend. Sure, it's a free system in as uch as you are not expected to pay thousands of dollars to have broken arm fixed...but the 'free' countries (ot their people) do pay in the form of taxation on the working population. Sure, if you don't work then you don't pay..so I suppose that could be classed as free!
Jan 21, 2010 8:13 AM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
HJFinAZ
HJFinAZHJFinAZSun CIty, Arizona USA870 Threads 1 Polls 17,068 Posts
Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!

NOT after the Mass. elections...popcorn
Jan 21, 2010 8:15 AM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
HJFinAZ
HJFinAZHJFinAZSun CIty, Arizona USA870 Threads 1 Polls 17,068 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Yeah... good for you grumy! The stupid won in MASS...


Actually, the "stupid" is in the White House (for 3 more years).sigh
Jan 21, 2010 8:17 AM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Sect. Gates is Pakistan finding out what the Pakistani military plans during the surge of the US Army in Afghanistan are. He used a fair amount of 'military tact' when he learned that the Paksitani don't plan any more major offenses for next 6-12 months. By saying

"Its the Pakistani are the ones that have the foot on the accelerator here."

Well the car and truck the Pakistani drive 'has funded in the
USA' on it...maybe even 'made in the USA' if it is one of those old Hummers....that is no longer built here.

Unless the Pakistani can move from their position of no offense till the time is right, the American surge in Afghanistan will have less than optimum effect. The Afghan Taliban and alQeada will just come to Pakistani for most of the surge time, have a big party with their Pakistani Taliban brothers. party danceline And will out wait the American surge.

The reason the Pakistani give for the down time....."they need to consolidate and stabilize their gains of last offensive." This according to Gen Abbas, head of the Pakistani Army.

Last time I heard that term used in a military way.....Vet Nam was going on. Though when recently I said similar to the attractive blonde online in chat, the screen suddenly went blank. Maybe it is time for the American funding screen to blank to Pakistani requests for funds.

So we return to the question....is the Pakistani/American counter terrorism coalition....American led or Pakistani led? If I read Sec't Gates right in this article, it is clearly Pakistani led.

Which means, we are playing in the backyard of people that control the game. They make the rules and set the time for events and actions. So it is close to the time to leave. And to take our money with us.

Because core to every good military coalition, is the willingness to work together for a common purpose. That means setting aside your objectives for the broader goals in the coalition. That Pakistani are clearly not willing to do this. They know surely the 18 month surge deadline of President Obama. Yet they are unwilling to be aggressive in their own country during this critical time.....against terrorist groups like the Taliban, LET and alQeada....then they are less than a full ally.

So can one now say....Pakistan is a terrorist supporting country?
It is a lot easier now, than before.

Jan 21, 2010 8:24 AM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Italy101: Universal Health Care is and always will be a great thing....But what most people aren't seeing, is the fact that where paying for it, when like most country's it should be free!....The government wants everyone to have it. And what there hiding from the public is. If you do not have health care through your employer. You will have to maintain it(It becomes mandatory) under there bill...The problem with that is most people cannot afford it...On average for a single person health insurance can cost as little as $1600 a month to the most of $2500 a month. What the government is trying to do is mandate it. You know the military law if you refuse to serve your country you have to serve 5 years in a military prison...This is what there doing again. If you don't maintain health insurance they will force you to maintain it,if you still refuse they will even put you in jail...And this i found out from an inside politician...It's the governments way of making more money for themselves...It would bring them in nearly ($10 billion dollars a year) in revenue.....Also as well, it would bring the pharmaceutical company's in nearly ($20-$30 billion) a year too... If this bill passes.... And it's a FACT!!!.....


And where is this part a bout going to jail if no health care coverege Italy?



Of course if employers out there are not providing heatlh care plans for their employees then it is a gainst the law as it have been most of times in US and Obama administration will just make this more effective so employers respecting the law and acting properly or Else and thats fine for America and fine for americans of course! If the government not making sure the law is respected then who should do that? Employers them selves? You really think for example, a Joe the plumber...NOT! type, will give his employers a great health care plan when his own small company is based on fraud doing plumer jobs with out having a permit any way... unless the government keeps an open eye on him and others so they dont cheat their workers?

The questions and the fear have been the same any where before elected politicians were allowed to get the plans becoming reality regarding a more fair and more universal health care coverege for all and right winged have been failing any where regarding the BS they spreaded! You know nothing regarding the out come of the administration,s plans unless they are reality and begin to work and having at least some years you see?

The whole country is on the chains of fear because of huge insurence companies and medical industry and big capital cheaters and of course the whole stablishment of the repube heads who love those guys with all they got because of the damn money and too many americans... unfortunatily are not willing to read the legislation and even sending a mail to the adminstraion them selves and asking them particular questions regarding this!

How on Earth any body can be satisfide with any thing the repube heads are talking a bout regarding Obama Care when republicans are in opposition and in the sour corner of a big lost in the last presindetial election? Really! So many americans relying on the loosers side in the politcal battle and searching info from the same loosers who were kicked off because of failures and not being able to keep America strong and destroyed american economy as no other regims before?doh
Jan 21, 2010 8:27 AM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
Hot_Single_Dude: Who is the one fair enough to define who is a so called Freeloader and who is not then? the common man on the street whould be the judge? Should they like pointing at the single mom in the supermarked using food stamps to buy food for her kids and making fun of her and pushing her around and judging her right there with out having a clue a bout how this mother,s life actually have been and what life situation made her living of well fare?

Who should be the judge? You? Joe the Plumber ... Not? Palin? Limbaugh?

If the system gets better to find employment for human beings then good with me and the same system is the one should becoming better of finding out a bout who abuses the system and who is not and is in real need!

It is like "the justice of the street" I am opposed to! Not too many years before, the neighoberhood made a decision and hanged the poor fellow if they were agree on him being the guilty just because of being at the wrong place on the wrong time or looking like some body "sure" guilty because of his colour for example and again in the so called modern time people having a dark coloured beard or wearing a head scarf were concidered being "terrorists" with out knowing a Di** a bout who these people really were and stuff and the same stupid way of judging human beings happens regarding those many people seeing upon as "free loaders" with out having a clue a bout their personal problems what so ever and the "judges" are the normal persons tired after a working day and allowing them selves finding each other in a Bar and becoming the head of the street justice and condumning others!

The stystem must take care of illegal issues and not the common man on the street! Wild wild west was some how "romantic" but as a matter fo fact a stupid time as well because there were no much real justice any way you see?

Oh yeah... leaving my house frequently and have travelled almost any where you can imagine and US is my favorite place to spend vacations and when ever I need quality time with my family members and loved ones and friends and if I have time of course... Why do you think I care a bout America then and wishing peace and stability and more laughter and better times and universal health care plan and recovering of the economy and strength and victory against terrorism and other positive for the United states and have used so much of my precious time writing in here for mounths? Care mister... CARE!

I know this thing a bout some americans Hate it if people from other countries having any ideas what so ever regarding America but as a matter of fact you cant do much a bout this because we are some how all americans and the bounds between US and the rest of the world are as strong as your self and the strong bounds you have to what ever country you are from originally as all others immigrants living in US of A! At least you are a so called "Indian" and then ...ok... you are really really REALLY american your self

We all love the United States of America and that,s why we care! live with it
You care NOT a Whit!





Massachusetts
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Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: Sect. Gates is Pakistan finding out what the Pakistani military plans during the surge of the US Army in Afghanistan are. He used a fair amount of 'military tact' when he learned that the Paksitani don't plan any more major offenses for next 6-12 months. By saying

"Its the Pakistani are the ones that have the foot on the accelerator here."

Well the car and truck the Pakistani drive 'has funded in the
USA' on it...maybe even 'made in the USA' if it is one of those old Hummers....that is no longer built here.

Unless the Pakistani can move from their position of no offense till the time is right, the American surge in Afghanistan will have less than optimum effect. The Afghan Taliban and alQeada will just come to Pakistani for most of the surge time, have a big party with their Pakistani Taliban brothers. And will out wait the American surge.

The reason the Pakistani give for the down time....."they need to consolidate and stabilize their gains of last offensive." This according to Gen Abbas, head of the Pakistani Army.

Last time I heard that term used in a military way.....Vet Nam was going on. Though when recently I said similar to the attractive blonde online in chat, the screen suddenly went blank. Maybe it is time for the American funding screen to blank to Pakistani requests for funds.

So we return to the question....is the Pakistani/American counter terrorism coalition....American led or Pakistani led? If I read Sec't Gates right in this article, it is clearly Pakistani led.

Which means, we are playing in the backyard of people that control the game. They make the rules and set the time for events and actions. So it is close to the time to leave. And to take our money with us.

Because core to every good military coalition, is the willingness to work together for a common purpose. That means setting aside your objectives for the broader goals in the coalition. That Pakistani are clearly not willing to do this. They know surely the 18 month surge deadline of President Obama. Yet they are unwilling to be aggressive in their own country during this critical time.....against terrorist groups like the Taliban, LET and alQeada....then they are less than a full ally.

So can one now say....Pakistan is a terrorist supporting country?
It is a lot easier now, than before.



Thanks god that secretary Gates made you beleive in what I exactly told in here a million times before and at least a republican telling the same you never beleived TT wow tongue
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Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
HJFinAZ: Actually, the "stupid" is in the White House (for 3 more years).
You mean Cheney still is hidden in the basement over there? wow uh oh
Jan 21, 2010 8:46 AM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Thanks god that secretary Gates made you beleive in what I exactly told in here a million times before and at least a republican telling the same you never beleived TT


What do think happens when the US withdraws from Afghanistan and stops funding Pakistan's counter terrorism operations? Can anyones say....Iran becomes the regional power broker....and these two terrorist laden countries become the surrogates of Iran?

It is not a win, Dude. For both will export terrorism at Iran's directions for a long time in the future.
Jan 21, 2010 8:47 AM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
Hot_Single_Dude: You mean Cheney still is hidden in the basement over there?
I thought you had him hidden away in you Basement?rolling on the floor laughing
Jan 21, 2010 9:02 AM CST Obama administration made it possible! Support universal Health care for all americans!
Hot_Single_Dude: Thanks god that secretary Gates made you beleive in what I exactly told in here a million times before and at least a republican telling the same you never beleived TT
Yep,real smart to tell an Enemy that I'll leave in two years!rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing doh
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ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Conrad73: Maybe he's giving Old Joe some pointers!


I hope it is not with a shot gun.......laugh
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