Chavez threatens to cut off oil to the US, what should the US do? (88)

TTom50: I hear what you are saying with gas at $3.10 across the country.
Also this administration is less than fully supportive of alternative
energy development. Somewhat yes, fully supportive no.

But I do like the idea of going to the ocean for my next tank gas.
Just don't think that it is going to be tomorrow.

Indyfella: But if we use up all the water, what will the whales do?

lorax111: Well, that may not be so true. Their is a debate abought whether waterboarding is tourture. However waterboarding was listed in the warcrimes charges against the Emperor of Japan after the war

alexfrommiami: you people talk too much without clear understanding the
problem.
if a**hole like chaves started this nonsense he should
realize US next step.
we did a mistake with Iraq and now stuck in it.
the normal idea when dealing with enemies in 21 century
is to drop neutron bomb the very same day and problem
disappear for next 1000 years.
are they going hate us for this?no,they are not around.
looks cruel?
I recommend you to visit North Korea and stop eating
yogurt.

lorax111: Yes should have used the nutron bomb, turned the whole area into a sheet of glass, then built an amusement park.
I don't get this new kind of war stuff, we took Afganistan and then gave it back. We have Iraq and are giving it back, What is in it for me? Whatever hapend to the old pillage and plunder? Why have my gas prices skyrocketed? Why has the deficet doubled?
What is wrong with yogurt? Dennis (current mood= much more reasonable today)

j_goose: LET THE DRILLING IN IRAQ COMMENCE.

AND KUWAIT....they owe us alot of money anyway.

TTom50: OK then let us talk some real brutality. Then you tell me if waterboarding is distressing or torture? Ok?

Know the numbers of American soldiers that either the AlQeada of Iraq or the AlQeada in Afgan have taken as prisoner? That are alive today? The answer is maybe 1...all the rest have either been summarily executed or tortured to death when captured on the battlefield. We are not sure of the one, they did a video and nothing since on him has shown.

In Iraq alone the United States and coalition forces has taken some 35,000 detainees/prisoners. They get the same medical attention as American wounded. are protected from reprisials from the Iraqi that want to kill them. get three meals and clean clothes in a prison complex. It meets Geneva Convention standards for prisoner treatment.

In a early Afghanistan battle. A Navy seal did not lock his harness on helo lift......fell out of it....our UAV imaged what 6 of them were doing to him. Would remind you alot of the stories you hear about Custer and his troop had done to them. The three 82nd airborne troop that they captured, they tortured for a week, before killing them. I can site you at least 2 more such cases.....

Sir, even the Vet Cong took prisoners. They might have tortured them with extremely harsh treatment and living conditions. But they kept them alive the best they could. These guys don't even do that......so......please if you want to make a case for sympathy and that we have abused them........and that we have violated the Geneva conventions, fine. You made your case. It has happened. Those that did so are in Leavenworth or facing it. But if it was your buddy down on the hill with the 6 of them over him. You would want to put a round in his forehead to keep his torture from being any worse. If it was you on the hill, you would want him to do it for you.

So sir, I am thinking the 5 waterboardings, the prison scandle and Gitmo are not even close to what they have done. Not likely we will ever know it. They don't arrest thier thier Geneva Convention violators and send them to trial. Maybe you can add it up differently with the Geneva Convention regs you hold in your lap. Please, send a copy to bin Laden, see what his opinion is of them.

Our people have showed so much restraint in this, it amazes me. Now please tell me if waterboarding is torture. When compared to sited cases.

lorax111: I think that I have not explaned my opinion correctly. I certainly do not agree that what has been done to us is aceptable. It is without a doubt not. Alqeada does not play nice, but as real human beings should we play their games? I certainly understand your point and can see that i've got you riled up, that was not my intention. We have responsibilities , though they may cast them aside we still must be responsible in our actions.

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jetdevil2001: I am not radical islamist and do you believe that USA brought democracy to Iraq, Georgia or Ukraine, where your country made state overturn, do you really think US government did all these things for the sake of these poor people or citizens of the USA worry about the destiny of these countries? Many Americans do not know even where these countries locate... and many of them agree with these policy. Do you really consider the only way out is to declare a war? I do not think so, there are many diplomatic ways to solve such problem, of course Chavez tries to act like a real communist or socialist, whatever, I myself consider him clown, but not a real dictator, if he were such, he would not make a referendum. He is just a showman... You would agree with me if you were in my country, as our president a real dictator unwilling to leave his post since 1992. But still no country wishes to be in war, as the situation may get worse, like in Iraq. And America will never succeed in Afghanistan, like in Vietnam, there is no chance to win in war against Taliban partisans, as USSR didn't.
As to 9/11, of course it was a great tragedy for the USA, but it is not the only country in the world suffering from terrorism, there were many such act even in my country and too many people left this world. And we do not blame Islamic world in this like you. You seem to have false idea about muslims or have no idea at all.
"Kosovo is a free country", may be... But don't you think it can start a new crisis between those nations. I consider US applies double policy, and said Kosovo was an exception, then what about Cyprus, Catalonia, Basque, Prednestrovie, Nothern Osetia and many other countries, who are willing to be independent, and have more rights to it.
I do hope in near future Russia will regain previous power and will be counterbalance to the USA, as it was in past at the period of peace, when US government could not act so freely as nowadays.
Do not consider me as a radical, or whatever, who is against the USA government or its people. I am for peace and think negotiating, as the only salvation of the problem.

lorax111: Well you are making a little more sence in this post, much better than the last post. The world expects a lot from us and then is surprised when we let them down. I think that you do not realise what was really hapening behind the curtains during the cold war( Russian heydays). ,,,, at the end of the day we must admit that Russia has fallen apart and will never piece itself back together. Dennis

Conrad73: Exactly,and to state different is either closing one's Eyes to reality or possibly secretly,subconsciously agreeing with those Systems.
Believing that there is no other way to deal with people than raw naked Aggression.
That people can only be dealt with by Force.
They ought to feel that on their own backs for a change.
Well,they usually sooner or later will.