xxfrecklesxx: I have friends here in Spain, and elderly couple who believe in God and go to church every week, and they are having nothing but bad luck,
Have you ever asked them to explain the reason for their faith despite their "bad luck"? If you did and were willing to really listen you might learn a great deal about the true meaning of faith.
katt1017: Have you ever asked them to explain the reason for their faith despite their "bad luck"? If you did and were willing to really listen you might learn a great deal about the true meaning of faith.
] ]Very well said. Great reply to person b4 you. May blessings be yours in abundance ] Coco
l live in the world capital of christianity, cause my job l know many catt. priest ( they know what happen in vatican) some of them are smart clever corageous brave heart, some are............idiots.........some are........kriminals.
l' will not say to you what they think about bibble and what l think about it.............NO COMMENT...........
l'm christian l believe in God like a positive force creating the visible and not visible without time no begin and no end.
l firmly believe in the RESPECT for other ppl opinions, believer or not and in any kind of religions but l ask you live your feeling inside you, keep the faith in your heart.
poll question like this are ridicule, offensive, injurie men and women with faith and without too
for this reason l stand up and ask to you moderator do me a favour remove this shame
xxfrecklesxx: sorry but that is nonsense... I dont beleive but I have everything I want.. a beautiful daughter, good health, a nice life.. so how can you say I have nothing??..
I dont need a 'god' to help me, ive managed long enough with 'no faith'
but trying telling that to the people that are suffering and 'do' beleive, the ones who have lost loved ones due to disasters, famine, and illness..... babies who are born to believers, but die in childhood from cancer...
sorry, but why would 'god' make them suffer...
I have friends here in Spain, and elderly couple who believe in God and go to church every week, and they are having nothing but bad luck,
We live our lives as it is dealt to us. Like you as a parent, when something happens to your kids, you are there to help them. That is how it works in his kingdom. I have had my problems, but he has been by my side to help. With his help, I've always landed on my feet. We will all die at some point, why it happens in his kingdom is not for me to figure out. As you, I live the best life I can helping those around me, that is it. My time will come and so be it. But I can tell you he has been there for me when I have asked for his help....actually he has been there even before I could ask for his help.
I do not got to church or do any formal worship. I thank him everyday for what he has given me and what he will. We aren't talking monetary rather healthy and happy family and many friends. That's all I can ask for.
cammo2010Sydney (SW), New South Wales Australia20 posts
I don't. Why is simple: after having a look over most of the arguments in support (and the fact that they have been comprehensively eviscerated) I cannot reasonably believe.
As such, I identify as atheist. I concede I might be wrong, but I choose evidence over feelings on such matters.
If there was a GOD - it wouldn't be simply "GOD" ........ Everyone has either a last name ....or family name ......or at least a middle initial ......! DUH !
The most remarkable thing is he accepts you for who you are, where you are, and how you are....you could be a murderer and ask for forgiveness, you could be a very mean person and realize to talk to him.....I was angry the other night, but I'm human, not someone who thinks they are so great...as I stated before, I'm probably like the dog who gets kicked out the door...and I make comments sometimes before I think...I'm I the only one who does this?
jvaski: If there was a GOD - it wouldn't be simply "GOD" ........ Everyone has either a last name ....or family name ......or at least a middle initial ......! DUH !
The only middle and last names I've heard for "GOD" so far are "Damn-It "
If you believe in God, do you believe in Heaven and Hell? How do you justify people from, for example the Amazon Basin, being condemned to hell simply because they have never heard of the Christian God? Is it right that simple ignorance is a crime worthy of hell? Is a God who sends people to hell for simple ignorance an arbitrary cruel God unworthy of worship?
AmityDodging Daggers, Wiltshire, England UK6,217 posts
laura139: The most remarkable thing is he accepts you for who you are, where you are, and how you are....you could be a murderer and ask for forgiveness, you could be a very mean person and realize to talk to him.....I was angry the other night, but I'm human, not someone who thinks they are so great...as I stated before, I'm probably like the dog who gets kicked out the door...and I make comments sometimes before I think...I'm I the only one who does this?
xxfrecklesxxBanyeres de Mariola, Valencia Spain1,568 posts
katt1017: Have you ever asked them to explain the reason for their faith despite their "bad luck"? If you did and were willing to really listen you might learn a great deal about the true meaning of faith.
No ive never asked them, as I have no interest in 'God' though a lot of people of their age from then UK, were bought up more religious than I was, I was allowed to make my own mind up where God is concerned, rather than have it drilled into me, I did do religious education at school and came top in my class, and I did find it interesting, But, it was at that age I started to question it, and came to the conclusion that God does not exist,
Each to their own I guess and no one will every be able to change my views on it...
Though I wish a 'beliver' would come up with an answer to why God would let people suffer from famine, earthquakes, etc....
Iuchi_Zien: Mazda? I know they make good cars but...
Oh and Moses bought british!
'The roar of Moses Triumph is heard in the hills' so was it a Bonneville or a Tiger?
I gather you don't know the name Ahura Mazda. It is the uncreated God of Zoroaster. But in fact, the Japanese borrowed the name of the God to use for the car of the same name earlier this century. I can imagine that the Zoroastrians weren't very pleased about that.
I want to apologize for my blurting out the other night, had a bit too much of wine, and I behaved like a hypocrite...had run across pics of my sis who died 5 years ago of breast cancer, and no matter what He was her comfort...miss her terribly, and I berated some of you, I'm very sorry...I had to let go of her, she was suffering so, and it all just came back..sorry
bodleingGreater Manchester, England UK13,810 posts
laura139: I want to apologize for my blurting out the other night, had a bit too much of wine, and I behaved like a hypocrite...had run across pics of my sis who died 5 years ago of breast cancer, and no matter what He was her comfort...miss her terribly, and I berated some of you, I'm very sorry...I had to let go of her, she was suffering so, and it all just came back..sorry
I do believe there was a good man way back then....and died trying to change people's way of thinking. And i believe if you believe in your own God, no matter who it is ...well you will be doing ok. personaly i think we are in hell and heaven awaits us all
xxfrecklesxxBanyeres de Mariola, Valencia Spain1,568 posts
laura139: I want to apologize for my blurting out the other night, had a bit too much of wine, and I behaved like a hypocrite...had run across pics of my sis who died 5 years ago of breast cancer, and no matter what He was her comfort...miss her terribly, and I berated some of you, I'm very sorry...I had to let go of her, she was suffering so, and it all just came back..sorry
laura139: I want to apologize for my blurting out the other night, had a bit too much of wine, and I behaved like a hypocrite...had run across pics of my sis who died 5 years ago of breast cancer, and no matter what He was her comfort...miss her terribly, and I berated some of you, I'm very sorry...I had to let go of her, she was suffering so, and it all just came back..sorry
When the pain of grief resurfaces. You have my sincere sympathies Laura. We all know that feeling. For my part, no apology required.
because without God there is no life, love and existence of the world in the first place. because He create the heaven nd the earth and everything in it.
Which one? You're going to have to provide a specific name. There have been thousands of mythical "gods" throughout history, many of which have more archeological evidence than others. For example, all the places mentioned in the Iliad and Odyssey actually exist and are geographically correct, which is more than can be said for the buybull.
Unless you prove one exists, yours remains as false and non-existent as all the others. Books of fairy tales do no constitute "proof", no matter how many people believe the lies in them; numbers don't make the argument "right".
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