danalpha, now why is it you have to question if someones lost their minds when they don't believe what the government tells them to believe? 911 was an inside job. I'm not crazy but what if I ask if you," have lost your mind? " Anybody who doesn't wake up and see the direction our country is headed to is nuts to say the least. Read the," Medusa file," where the writer predicted 911 would occur through our government. And he did it two years before it happened no less.
AlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada5,914 posts
gilbertpaul: aspen, correct and so much more evidence that if no one sees it it's because they don't want to. Hang in there against the scoffers and the wolves.
I see lots of evidence Gilbert. Just that they lead to dead ends when I question how it connects is all whereas the official conspiracy theory seems to tie it all up a lot nicer.
gilbertpaul: conrad the liar, I see you've recovered from the mental slap I gave you. So once again you just can't reply to the thread instead you have to have personal attacks because you can't deal with the truth. And I noticed some of your sheeple friends attempt to help you. How nice old man how very nice. Fools of a feather stick together A Conrad? And now because you can't believe I would challenge your false views all of a sudden I'm a Stalker. Well Conrad the blind your really not that important to me. Aspen yes he's a smart man. You, your down at the bottom of my toilet in ranking. I only go there when I have to unload my ammunition onto your big mushy deluded head. Now go blow some hot air in some balloon's and throw a party.
You long on Blab,but very short on Evidence! You're a Blabber!
gilbertpaul: conrad the liar, I see you've recovered from the mental slap I gave you. So once again you just can't reply to the thread instead you have to have personal attacks because you can't deal with the truth. And I noticed some of your sheeple friends attempt to help you. How nice old man how very nice. Fools of a feather stick together A Conrad? And now because you can't believe I would challenge your false views all of a sudden I'm a Stalker. Well Conrad the blind your really not that important to me. Aspen yes he's a smart man. You, your down at the bottom of my toilet in ranking. I only go there when I have to unload my ammunition onto your big mushy deluded head. Now go blow some hot air in some balloon's and throw a party.
We've been listening, watching and reading the so-called evidence for the US government's involvement in this atrocity for nearly nine years. All I've ever deduced from this study is that there is no solid evidence to support it. Moreover, the hypothesis just does not stand up to logic for very long (if at all). I get the feeling that people want to believe this story as opposed to reasoning through it.
Furthermore, could this story have been encouraged politically in order to make the Republicans into animals? In addition, there are a lot of people making money out of this hypothesis, as with 2012 and the Mayan Calendar, Von Daniken etc.
Perhaps, it is pertinent to ask "why is this story gaining currency?" Instead of "is this story true?"
Blues63: We've been listening, watching and reading the so-called evidence for the US government's involvement in this atrocity for nearly nine years. All I've ever deduced from this study is that there is no solid evidence to support it. Moreover, the hypothesis just does not stand up to logic for very long (if at all). I get the feeling that people want to believe this story as opposed to reasoning through it.
Furthermore, could this story have been encouraged politically in order to make the Republicans into animals? In addition, there are a lot of people making money out of this hypothesis, as with 2012 and the Mayan Calendar, Von Daniken etc.
Perhaps, it is pertinent to ask "why is this story gaining currency?" Instead of "is this story true?"
Interesting! With the Mid-Terms in the US being less than a month away,strange crescendo of 9-11-Threads and 9-11-Truthers!
Albertaghost: Well really. Security is one thing but has any Union guy wondered or publicly said something like 'hey, how come those guys are working our building?'
Or have any office workers all had a day of vomiting? All in the same area like a rash that moves from floor to floor?
Don't ask rational Questions! They have no place in a Conspiracy-Theory,neither do Facts.
aspen12portage la prarie, Manitoba Canada528 posts
Blues63: We've been listening, watching and reading the so-called evidence for the US government's involvement in this atrocity for nearly nine years. All I've ever deduced from this study is that there is no solid evidence to support it. Moreover, the hypothesis just does not stand up to logic for very long (if at all). I get the feeling that people want to believe this story as opposed to reasoning through it.
Furthermore, could this story have been encouraged politically in order to make the Republicans into animals? In addition, there are a lot of people making money out of this hypothesis, as with 2012 and the Mayan Calendar, Von Daniken etc.
Perhaps, it is pertinent to ask "why is this story gaining currency?" Instead of "is this story true?"
BECAUSE IT TRUE YOU CANT HIDE THE TRUTH FOR EVER TRUTH WILL SHINE THROUGH
aspen12portage la prarie, Manitoba Canada528 posts
Albertaghost: So, if there were explosives in the buildings, how did Al Qaeda get them in there?
WHO SAID AL QAEDA BROGHT EXPLOSIVES IN .THE SAME PEOPLE WHO BLEW UP BUILDING.NO FIRE BROUGHT BUILDING DOWN UNCLE YOU KNOW STRENGHT OF STEEL STANDING UP HAS.TRY BREKING A EGG ON END YOU WILL UNDERSTAND
aspen12: WHO SAID AL QAEDA BROGHT EXPLOSIVES IN .THE SAME PEOPLE WHO BLEW UP BUILDING.NO FIRE BROUGHT BUILDING DOWN UNCLE YOU KNOW STRENGHT OF STEEL STANDING UP HAS.TRY BREKING A EGG ON END YOU WILL UNDERSTAND
aspen12: WHO SAID AL QAEDA BROGHT EXPLOSIVES IN .THE SAME PEOPLE WHO BLEW UP BUILDING.NO FIRE BROUGHT BUILDING DOWN UNCLE YOU KNOW STRENGHT OF STEEL STANDING UP HAS.TRY BREKING A EGG ON END YOU WILL UNDERSTAND
You sinking fast,you can't even remember any longer what you write!
AlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada5,914 posts
aspen12: WHO SAID AL QAEDA BROGHT EXPLOSIVES IN .
They flew planes into the buildings so, unless it was just a very lucky day for whomever placed the supposed charges, then we can extrapolate that Al Qaeda was somehow involved in the place=ing of the mythical explosives as well.
aspen12: THE SAME PEOPLE WHO BLEW UP BUILDING.
Al Qaeda again. They are the only ones we can document doing damage to the buildings so, it stands to reason that if there were charges in the buildings they would have had a hand in that as well.
aspen12: NO FIRE BROUGHT BUILDING DOWN UNCLE YOU KNOW STRENGHT OF STEEL STANDING UP HAS.TRY BREKING A EGG ON END YOU WILL UNDERSTAND
Now this is where I hope your concrete work will provide you with some education of sorts Aspen old buddy. When steel gets hot (not melting) it loses rigidity and bends. Concrete does the same thing. Nylon washers holding the rivets tightly in place actually melt and so, with a minimum of heat, you have a bending, flexing structure with no firm fastening. To complicate this a little more and to provide a better picture, concrete does not beind or flex uniformely with the steel and, weighs about three thousand pounds per yard (nine square feet of floor space) hence, there is a lot of weight working against the already flexible structure. In short, it tears itself apart just by the heat.
aspen12portage la prarie, Manitoba Canada528 posts
Albertaghost: They flew planes into the buildings so, unless it was just a very lucky day for whomever placed the supposed charges, then we can extrapolate that Al Qaeda was somehow involved in the place=ing of the mythical explosives as well. Al Qaeda again. They are the only ones we can document doing damage to the buildings so, it stands to reason that if there were charges in the buildings they would have had a hand in that as well. Now this is where I hope your concrete work will provide you with some education of sorts Aspen old buddy. When steel gets hot (not melting) it loses rigidity and bends. Concrete does the same thing. Nylon washers holding the rivets tightly in place actually melt and so, with a minimum of heat, you have a bending, flexing structure with no firm fastening. To complicate this a little more and to provide a better picture, concrete does not beind or flex uniformely with the steel and, weighs about three thousand pounds per yard (nine square feet of floor space) hence, there is a lot of weight working against the already flexible structure. In short, it tears itself apart just by the heat.
whats the temp.OF BURNING KEROSENE?NYLON WASHERS/130ENGINEERS SAY FIRE WOULD NOT BRING DOWN A STRUCTURE LIKE THAT.BUT GOOD OLD UNCLE ALBERT BEGS TO DIFFER
AlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada5,914 posts
aspen12: whats the temp.OF BURNING KEROSENE?NYLON WASHERS/130ENGINEERS SAY FIRE WOULD NOT BRING DOWN A STRUCTURE LIKE THAT.BUT GOOD OLD UNCLE ALBERT BEGS TO DIFFER
Would you quote the 130 engineers please.
Now this is where I hope your concrete work will provide you with some education of sorts Aspen old buddy. When steel gets hot (not melting) it loses rigidity and bends. Concrete does the same thing. Nylon washers holding the rivets tightly in place actually melt and so, with a minimum of heat, you have a bending, flexing structure with no firm fastening. To complicate this a little more and to provide a better picture, concrete does not beind or flex uniformly with the steel and, weighs about three thousand pounds per yard (nine square feet of floor space) hence, there is a lot of weight working against the already flexible structure. In short, it tears itself apart just by the heat.
Albertaghost: Would you quote the 130 engineers please.
Now this is where I hope your concrete work will provide you with some education of sorts Aspen old buddy. When steel gets hot (not melting) it loses rigidity and bends. Concrete does the same thing. Nylon washers holding the rivets tightly in place actually melt and so, with a minimum of heat, you have a bending, flexing structure with no firm fastening. To complicate this a little more and to provide a better picture, concrete does not beind or flex uniformly with the steel and, weighs about three thousand pounds per yard (nine square feet of floor space) hence, there is a lot of weight working against the already flexible structure. In short, it tears itself apart just by the heat.
There's not major science to this. Try taking a piece of re-bar out to a fire pit. In 15 minutes you can soften it.
Not sure or not of an "Inside" Job, but the people who did this were on the "Inside Of The U.S". I was in the Military for 16 years, and I DO believe that Flight 93 was brought down by U.S.Fighter Jets. Does anybody REALLY think the Plane headed for THE WHITE HOUSE just "coincidently" was brought down in a Pa. field without any other Casualties??? Think not!!!!
PensFan1955: Not sure or not of an "Inside" Job, but the people who did this were on the "Inside Of The U.S". I was in the Military for 16 years, and I DO believe that Flight 93 was brought down by U.S.Fighter Jets. Does anybody REALLY think the Plane headed for THE WHITE HOUSE just "coincidently" was brought down in a Pa. field without any other Casualties??? Think not!!!!
I've got to admit that this is a very plausible possibility and, under the circumstances would have been a tough but defensible call (they were all going to die, anyway and shooting the plane down only manages the location of the crash site). But... there's no evidence that the plane was brought down by figher jets but there is evidence that the passengers revolted, so as believable a scenario as US fighters bringing down that plane is, I just can't accept it as a fact. The evidence doesn't support it.
deadbutwhyeast, Eastern Province Saudi Arabia1,295 posts
gardenhackle: I've got to admit that this is a very plausible possibility and, under the circumstances would have been a tough but defensible call (they were all going to die, anyway and shooting the plane down only manages the location of the crash site). But... there's no evidence that the plane was brought down by figher jets but there is evidence that the passengers revolted, so as believable a scenario as US fighters bringing down that plane is, I just can't accept it as a fact. The evidence doesn't support it.
The evidence supports the hypothesis that the airplane was blown apart in the air, as the remains were dispersed in an otherwise abnormally large area.
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