Do you beleive 9\11 was a inside job/? (616)

I've evaluated every argument I've heard. One just can't "assume" anything. I don't know what the mainstream conspiracy theory is, though, because there's nothing "mainstream" about it, as far as I can tell. The thing I've noticed about the 9/11 conspiracy theory "facts" is that many aren't actually facts. Believing that planes filled with fuel couldn't possibly bring down those towers demands that true scientific FACTS are ignored. If you look through discussions pro and con amongst the conspiracy theorists and everyone else, you'll notice that occam's razor isn't something that the CT advocates apply.

And here's a bit of Occam's razor at work. The FACT that the central argument of the conspiracy theorists is that planes loaded with fuel couldn't generate enough damage and heat to bring down the buildings indicates a very flawed center because the "evidence" that it wasn't planes and that there wasn't enough heat to turn stiff steel into silly putty is specious pseudo scientific babble rather than thoughtful analysis. Steel turns into malleable, soft stuff not much more substantial than silly putty at around 2000 degrees. I know that for a fact since I do steel work and forging on knives. A steel rod that is very strong will droop under it's own weight when heated to cherry red (around 1600 degrees). At 2000 degrees, it's easily molded by hand hammering. It doesn't have to "melt" in order to lose all structural integrity and load bearing capacity.

Because that is a fact and because that fact is ignored by conspiracy theorists everywhere, their entire theory is bankrupt. If there was any honesty in their approach, this huge flaw in their factual assertions would HAVE to be acknowledged. And it's not.

The rest of the theory collapses under it's own weight due to non support of it's central structure. Much like the towers did, ironically.

Occam's razor: The simplest explanation is usually the correct one.

The simplest theory is that the planes did, in fact, strike the towers as those who never again saw the loved ones that were on those planes would attest. The simplest theory is that the tower, engulfed in flames that heated the steel very much like the atmospheric forge I use (gaping holes on both sides fueling the fire with extremely forceful flows of oxygen as the consumption of it creates a vacuum that force-feeds the fire like bellows would). And the simplest theory is that steel so heated buckles very easily. And that once buckled, the weight of the buildings would shift the load forces in ways that the rest of the structure wasn't designed to withstand. That's the "lateral shear forces".

There's just no sound scientific basis for "it couldn't happen".

"However, the building was not able to withstand the intense heat of the jet fuel fire. While it was impossible for the fuel-rich, diffuse-flame fire to burn at a temperature high enough to melt the steel, its quick ignition and intense heat caused the steel to lose at least half its strength and to deform, causing buckling or crippling. This weakening and deformation caused a few floors to fall, while the weight of the stories above them crushed the floors below, initiating a domino collapse."

from this article, which explains the dynamics very well.

And, Aspen. You know without any doubt after being told repeatedly that your insistence on posting in all capital letters is rude and annoying to everyone else. I can only assume that being rude is your intent since you've been asked many times to stop doing that and reject all pleas for such a simple courtesy.

This is the last response from me that you'll ever get to a post of yours in all capital letters. And I think others will follow that lead, assuming your ALL CAPS ONE-LINERS are indicative of your desire not to be taken seriously or even read.

"However, the building was not able to withstand the intense heat of the jet fuel fire. While it was impossible for the fuel-rich, diffuse-flame fire to burn at a temperature high enough to melt the steel, its quick ignition and intense heat caused the steel to lose at least half its strength and to deform, causing buckling or crippling. This weakening and deformation caused a few floors to fall, while the weight of the stories above them crushed the floors below, initiating a domino collapse."

from this article, which explains the dynamics very well.

And, Aspen. You know without any doubt after being told repeatedly that your insistence on posting in all capital letters is rude and annoying to everyone else. I can only assume that being rude is your intent since you've been asked many times to stop doing that and reject all pleas for such a simple courtesy.

This is the last response from me that you'll ever get to a post of yours in all capital letters. And I think others will follow that lead, assuming your ALL CAPS ONE-LINERS are indicative of your desire not to be taken seriously or even read.