Sarcastic comments.. what do u think is the cause ? (142)

Nov 16, 2010 6:07 AM CST Sarcastic comments.. what do u think is the cause ?
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
jac379: Its also suppressed affection.

Certainly in British culture, its not the done thing to gush with compliments...the recipient gets plain embarrassed. Sarcasm is a way of expressing affection without being intrusive.

Its a good way of flirting because if the recipient isn't interested in taking things further, it can be brushed off as a joke with no loss of face to either party.

If I were to respond to June by saying, "Bloody hell, she'll be drinking tea at 4 o'clock with her pinky finger sticking out before you know it!" I'm not meaning, "You can't be one of us because you come from a different country and culture", I'm meaning, "I really like you, we understand each other and have a lot of similarities, despite our different nationalities and culture".

I tend to think that those who view sarcasm as something negative maybe are the ones full of negativity. I don't mean that to be an insult, just that it perplexes that sarcasm is viewed negatively.

Even if somebody has annoyed me, I kind of think of it as a diffuser - getting my point across, but with humour.


Comes in useful when you dan't think of anything to say,grin
Nov 16, 2010 6:07 AM CST Sarcastic comments.. what do u think is the cause ?
invinciblemuse
invinciblemuseinvinciblemuseDresden, Saxony Germany38 Threads 2 Polls 6,026 Posts
jac379: Its also suppressed affection.

Certainly in British culture, its not the done thing to gush with compliments...the recipient gets plain embarrassed. Sarcasm is a way of expressing affection without being intrusive.

Its a good way of flirting because if the recipient isn't interested in taking things further, it can be brushed off as a joke with no loss of face to either party.

If I were to respond to June by saying, "Bloody hell, she'll be drinking tea at 4 o'clock with her pinky finger sticking out before you know it!" I'm not meaning, "You can't be one of us because you come from a different country and culture", I'm meaning, "I really like you, we understand each other and have a lot of similarities, despite our different nationalities and culture".

I tend to think that those who view sarcasm as something negative maybe are the ones full of negativity. I don't mean that to be an insult, just that it perplexes that sarcasm is viewed negatively.

Even if somebody has annoyed me, I kind of think of it as a diffuser - getting my point across, but with humour.


thumbs up You forgot to double-post this one! professor

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Nov 16, 2010 6:07 AM CST Sarcastic comments.. what do u think is the cause ?
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
invinciblemuse: You forgot to double-post this one!
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Nov 16, 2010 6:15 AM CST Sarcastic comments.. what do u think is the cause ?
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
tomcatwarne: Comes in useful when you dan't think of anything to say,


Now the truth comes out...

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Nov 16, 2010 6:17 AM CST Sarcastic comments.. what do u think is the cause ?
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
jac379: Now the truth comes out...


grin
Nov 16, 2010 6:17 AM CST Sarcastic comments.. what do u think is the cause ?
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
invinciblemuse: You forgot to double-post this one!


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Quod erat demonstrandom.
Nov 16, 2010 6:19 AM CST Sarcastic comments.. what do u think is the cause ?
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
Boban1: Im a man of few words ....


No, Boban!

Your English is getting loads better... wink rolling on the floor laughing
Nov 16, 2010 6:41 AM CST Sarcastic comments.. what do u think is the cause ?
mmanika
mmanikammanikapretoria, Gauteng South Africa2 Threads 473 Posts
invinciblemuse: You forgot to double-post this one!

I was going to remind her!
Nov 16, 2010 6:54 AM CST Sarcastic comments.. what do u think is the cause ?
Ocee35
Ocee35Ocee35Jackson, Michigan USA69 Threads 2 Polls 3,852 Posts
Sarcasm is the only reason to converse

with the intellectually unoriginal.
Nov 16, 2010 7:48 AM CST Sarcastic comments.. what do u think is the cause ?
solsticemoon
solsticemoonsolsticemoonjavea, Valencia Spain64 Threads 4,504 Posts
Blimey, I have a serious mental disorder?
thanks for telling me!grin
Nov 16, 2010 7:59 AM CST Sarcastic comments.. what do u think is the cause ?
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
invinciblemuse: You forgot to double-post this one!


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mmanika: I was going to remind her!


You're all picking on me moping
Nov 16, 2010 8:00 AM CST Sarcastic comments.. what do u think is the cause ?
invinciblemuse
invinciblemuseinvinciblemuseDresden, Saxony Germany38 Threads 2 Polls 6,026 Posts
jac379: You're all picking on me


Awww!! comfort But you know what that means, dontcha?? grin
Nov 20, 2010 6:57 PM CST Sarcastic comments.. what do u think is the cause ?
annie_nsw
annie_nswannie_nswCoffs Harbour, New South Wales Australia9 Threads 1 Polls 528 Posts
Hi Jac,I didn't take your comment as an insult as I have no reason to. The following I say in general terms to anyone wanting to read them...
I am aware of how some Brits use sarcasm as a form of affection as I was married to an Englishman for many years and he and his best mate also British have a dialogue exchange of "affectionate sarcasm" as you call it and that is fine, maybe because I know them both personally,however sarcasm is what it is.
I think it is sad that you wouldn't be able to just say to your friend what you really mean in the first place.
Saying that compliments cause the other person embarassment is just another excuse. Maybe the person giving the compliment is embarrassed as it requires them to be less guarded.
From my perspective and life experience sarcasm apart from coming from a negative source is also used as a defense mechanism that keeps others at a distance and it is basically saying to the other person "I am hurting so dont get to close as I dont want to hurt you."
Am I a negative person because I see the negativity in others ? no, it just means I am someone who has an understanding of how the human mind works and the excuses the ego uses to keep others at a safe distance.If anything I tend to take matters a tad to serious though as stated before I do have a lighter side of me that comes out to play from time to time but not at the expense of others.
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Nov 20, 2010 7:02 PM CST Sarcastic comments.. what do u think is the cause ?
JAN_is
JAN_isJAN_isMurcia city centre, Murcia Spain109 Threads 3,849 Posts
Although I have read blatant examples of all the things you mention in your poll, sometimes people confuse humour with sarcasm. It is an International forum so only to be expected I suppose.
Nov 20, 2010 7:13 PM CST Sarcastic comments.. what do u think is the cause ?
Christmas1
Christmas1Christmas1Peterborough, Ontario Canada3 Threads 869 Posts
I love sarcasm. My best friend (whom I have known for 28 years and I love her dearly) and I, when we get together, lord look out, crack each other up so bad. I have been known to be literally rolling on the floor, tears, can't talk...laughter. Omg, so much fun. And yes it is at the expense of others but they are not there and I would never say anything so caustic to their faces. I use sarcasm on this site, but it is mild to what I am capable of saying. Someone posted an article on this thread that said that people that can't understand sarcasm have a disfunctional brain. I laughed. What someone else finds funny, I usually find boring. Slapstick...I don't laugh...I feel sorry for the person and people that do laugh are cruel.
Nov 20, 2010 7:41 PM CST Sarcastic comments.. what do u think is the cause ?
Chrisys
ChrisysChrisysCascais, Lisbon Portugal2 Threads 102 Posts
Christmas1: I love sarcasm. My best friend (whom I have known for 28 years and I love her dearly) and I, when we get together, lord look out, crack each other up so bad. I have been known to be literally rolling on the floor, tears, can't talk...laughter. Omg, so much fun. And yes it is at the expense of others but they are not there and I would never say anything so caustic to their faces. I use sarcasm on this site, but it is mild to what I am capable of saying. Someone posted an article on this thread that said that people that can't understand sarcasm have a disfunctional brain. I laughed. What someone else finds funny, I usually find boring. Slapstick...I don't laugh...I feel sorry for the person and people that do laugh are cruel.


I'm with you!, the British are well known for their sarcastic wit, along with very dry humour, Churhill during the War was an artist at it,however when you live in differing countries you learn to modify the sarcasm,on a Forum, you cant see the facial expressions which tell you that the person being "funny" really is being just that and not unkind or serious. When you add in the whole issue of having to be "politically correct", it kills spontanaity.
Nov 20, 2010 7:42 PM CST Sarcastic comments.. what do u think is the cause ?
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
Jihadmeathello: I will go with 10, your lack of sense of humor


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Nov 20, 2010 7:52 PM CST Sarcastic comments.. what do u think is the cause ?
Godsgift
GodsgiftGodsgiftEnnis, Clare Ireland251 Threads 13 Polls 10,040 Posts
Chrisys: I'm with you!, the British are well known for their sarcastic wit, along with very dry humour, Churhill during the War was an artist at it,however when you live in differing countries you learn to modify the sarcasm,on a Forum, you cant see the facial expressions which tell you that the person being "funny" really is being just that and not unkind or serious. When you add in the whole issue of having to be "politically correct", it kills spontanaity.



Yes there are many famous Churchil sarcasti quotes:

Nancy Astor: “Sir, if you were my husband, I would give you poison.”
Churchill: “If I were your husband I would take it.”



Bessie Braddock: “Sir, you are drunk.”
Churchill: “Madam, you are ugly. In the morning, I shall be sober.”


Nothing to do with ego or self defence or fear of hurting others....just sheer quick witted brilliance.

Oscar Wilde was an expert at it too so perhaps our Australian member thinks we should burn his books a second time.
Nov 20, 2010 10:31 PM CST Sarcastic comments.. what do u think is the cause ?
thewall2
thewall2thewall2montreal, Quebec Canada61 Threads 10,499 Posts
If I'm not mistaken..I think sarcastic comes from the latin word which means to ..'TEAR FLESH.'


It's root...is probably..like anything nefative ..probably fear.
Nov 20, 2010 10:32 PM CST Sarcastic comments.. what do u think is the cause ?
thewall2
thewall2thewall2montreal, Quebec Canada61 Threads 10,499 Posts
thewall2: If I'm not mistaken..I think sarcastic comes from the latin word which means to ..'TEAR FLESH.'It's root...is probably..like anything nefative ..probably fear.


Negative..
Nov 20, 2010 10:33 PM CST Sarcastic comments.. what do u think is the cause ?
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
"Sarcastic comments.. what do u think is the cause ? "

Ummm........Free Forums Site .....and Plenty of Idiots to argue with - and no consequences ............
dunno laugh
Nov 20, 2010 10:35 PM CST Sarcastic comments.. what do u think is the cause ?
demonfairy
demonfairydemonfairyNewton, North Carolina USA76 Threads 2 Polls 2,278 Posts
some times it is when two peoples opinions differ...grin
Hi Wall,have a nice weekend.hug wave
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