Can Religion save the world? (116)

Dec 25, 2010 6:38 AM CST Can Religion save the world?
Raynew1959
Raynew1959Raynew1959Barrington, New Hampshire USA120 Threads 2 Polls 2,218 Posts
trish123: I heard a really funny thing the other day, the Jehovahs Witnesses are getting upset that Atheists are no longer keeping our opinions to ourselves



Forgot to quote Trish in my last post grin
Dec 25, 2010 6:40 AM CST Can Religion save the world?
DeusExMachina
DeusExMachinaDeusExMachinahaaltert, Oost Vlaanderen Belgium55 Threads 1 Polls 2,705 Posts
johnaustin123: Correct Ccincy

What goes around, comes around...a rule from God.

The End- The Beatles (Abbey Road)



What if god was one of us
Just a slob like one of us
Just a stranger on the bus
Trying to make his way home
Just trying to make his way home
Like a holy rolling stone
Back up to heaven all alone
Just trying to make his way home
Nobody calling on the phone
Except for the pope maybe in rome
Dec 25, 2010 6:45 AM CST Can Religion save the world?
johnaustin123
johnaustin123johnaustin123Eastlake, Ohio USA76 Threads 16 Polls 4,330 Posts
Imagine no Religion - John Lennon

Dec 25, 2010 6:55 AM CST Can Religion save the world?
Indigo_Flow
Indigo_FlowIndigo_FlowAdelaide, South Australia Australia2 Threads 170 Posts
johnaustin123: The Creation: Science v Religion


Lol, i like all documentaries when religion tries to debate science ....seems ironic that religion chooses to use things such as cameras, computers, microphones, the internet etc..all of which were created through scientific discovery.... im yet to see anything like that created through creationist discovery *if it exists...*

after all, Science can fly you to the moon....
Religion can fly you into buildings.
Dec 25, 2010 6:59 AM CST Can Religion save the world?
johnaustin123
johnaustin123johnaustin123Eastlake, Ohio USA76 Threads 16 Polls 4,330 Posts
An Atheist's Favourite Bible Verse

Dec 25, 2010 7:03 AM CST Can Religion save the world?
Dude44
Dude44Dude44Geneva, Switzerland33 Threads 6 Polls 397 Posts
Religion can never save Man. Only Man can save Man.
Dec 25, 2010 7:07 AM CST Can Religion save the world?
Indigo_Flow
Indigo_FlowIndigo_FlowAdelaide, South Australia Australia2 Threads 170 Posts
Dec 25, 2010 7:17 AM CST Can Religion save the world?
johnaustin123
johnaustin123johnaustin123Eastlake, Ohio USA76 Threads 16 Polls 4,330 Posts
Zager And Evans - In The Year 2525

Dec 25, 2010 7:18 AM CST Can Religion save the world?
DeusExMachina
DeusExMachinaDeusExMachinahaaltert, Oost Vlaanderen Belgium55 Threads 1 Polls 2,705 Posts
carlosweb10: Most people feel that they need a change in their lives and in the world as well. For them both are not separated issues because we live in the same world.

So what about the ideas, beliefs, and outlook for a world change?


Let's count who many man died in the name of God and then subtract the number of man killed in the name of God.
If the number is positive the God means Good
If the number is negative then God means evil.
Dec 25, 2010 7:22 AM CST Can Religion save the world?
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
Yes brothers and sisters,yes....Religion can save the world the dawn of a new religion has started

I'll get you everything you wanted
I'll get you everything you need
don't need to believe in hereafter
just believe in me

Cos Jesus he knows me
and he knows I'm right
I've been talking to Jesus all my life
oh yes he knos me
and he knos I'm right
and he's been telling me
everything is alright
grin
Dec 25, 2010 7:25 AM CST Can Religion save the world?
DeusExMachina
DeusExMachinaDeusExMachinahaaltert, Oost Vlaanderen Belgium55 Threads 1 Polls 2,705 Posts
Boban1: Yes brothers and sisters,yes....Religion can save the world the dawn of a new religion has started

I'll get you everything you wanted
I'll get you everything you need
don't need to believe in hereafter
just believe in me

Cos Jesus he knows me
and he knows I'm right
I've been talking to Jesus all my life
oh yes he knos me
and he knos I'm right
and he's been telling me
everything is alright


God is cruel.he let's me drink the fluids where fish piss in.
Dec 25, 2010 7:32 AM CST Can Religion save the world?
DeusExMachina
DeusExMachinaDeusExMachinahaaltert, Oost Vlaanderen Belgium55 Threads 1 Polls 2,705 Posts
Boban1: he knows about your mineral and electrolyte lack....
rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing

If you don't mind I will take a tablet for that.laugh And it is not only bathing and pissing that those fish do in that fluids.
Dec 25, 2010 7:35 AM CST Can Religion save the world?
patmac
patmacpatmacglasgow, Strathclyde, Scotland UK730 Threads 6 Polls 9,662 Posts
To the OP No chance, ut, it is fast destroying bits of it JMOgrin cheers
Dec 25, 2010 1:44 PM CST Can Religion save the world?
johnaustin123
johnaustin123johnaustin123Eastlake, Ohio USA76 Threads 16 Polls 4,330 Posts
This young girl from America in only 10 years old. She sings with an adult woman voice.

She understands Religion at her young age.

The next Judy Garland.


Jackie Evancho - Silent Night

Dec 25, 2010 3:13 PM CST Can Religion save the world?
johnaustin123
johnaustin123johnaustin123Eastlake, Ohio USA76 Threads 16 Polls 4,330 Posts
William Paul Young: A Look Inside 'The Shac...

Dec 26, 2010 11:07 AM CST Can Religion save the world?
Frankinstien
FrankinstienFrankinstienSan Juan, Puerto Rico1 Threads 1,521 Posts
johnaustin123: What do you go through when you face death?

I believe in reincarnation, so I do not fear death.

Sir Isaac Newton: "For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction".

Do you not find this Law in your own lives? In modern times it is called "what goes around comes around".

There is a higher power.

There are no atheists in fox holes.
Well you shure as hell where not in my foxhole !
Dec 26, 2010 11:09 AM CST Can Religion save the world?
Dude44: Religion can never save Man. Only Man can save Man.
Man saving man??laugh laugh what messianism is that?
Dec 26, 2010 11:58 AM CST Can Religion save the world?
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts
Religion has been the cause of more war, horror and inhumanity to man than any other force in human history. If anything it hold us back in our evolution as the human race. Im always astounded that humans can take the most sacred part of themselves and use it as an excuse to commit atrocities to others. Weve ALL been given this incredible gift of life on Earth and yet so many choose to arrogantly waste it in the pursuit of religion. What will save this planet and consequently the people living on it, is the Fall of organized religion. Thank goodness we have finally entered that age. wine
Dec 26, 2010 12:01 PM CST Can Religion save the world?
dezertfox4323
dezertfox4323dezertfox4323Tempe, Arizona USA117 Posts
What? Religion has caused nothing but wars and strife.
Dec 27, 2010 7:43 PM CST Can Religion save the world?
johnaustin123
johnaustin123johnaustin123Eastlake, Ohio USA76 Threads 16 Polls 4,330 Posts
I have seen Astrology work in my life. When I was young and rather foolish, I went to classes and studied Astrology.

They were able to predict that I was married twice and also the first name of my Daughter Amy.


Edgar Cayce and Astrology - Astrology - tribe.net

Dec 27, 2010 10:50 PM CST Can Religion save the world?
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
Raynew1959: We don't need religion. Take a good look at the history of this world and you'll see how many atrocities have been committed in "Gods" name. The Crusades, the Inquisition and 9/11 are several examples.


I agree but don't believe that religion is the force that caused the violence but rather a tool for those who were predisposed to cause it anyhow for their own purposes.

Every conflict in history has been over something else rather than religion - even the Muslim conquest of India with it's 80 million deaths was not about Islam but rather about territory with the pretext of expanding the Muslim world for political and social reasons of that being an effective way to run things.

The Greeks and Romans, while religious, did not carry out conquests for religious reasons but rather for economic and similarly, prior to civilization, tribal warfare was for gain of land, hunting grounds and the elimination of enemies even though they worshiped the same deities. In short, few wars are over religion.

That said, most wars were led by leaders well steeped in religion be they at the forefront or in the hierarchy of the leaders and, religion was pulled up and out to the head of the campaigns as a way to lend credence to the spoils of war which would not be seen by those sacrificing their lives to win.

In short, it won't save anything nor will it destroy. It's just window dressing.
Dec 28, 2010 12:18 AM CST Can Religion save the world?
mindfful
mindffulmindffulChicago, Illinois USA235 Threads 8 Polls 18,996 Posts
carlosweb10: Most people feel that they need a change in their lives and in the world as well. For them both are not separated issues because we live in the same world.

So what about the ideas, beliefs, and outlook for a world change?
religion and religiosity never changed anything for the better

and faith was never meant to save the world

its always curious to me when relious people with the christian persuasion mention things like saving the world

i mean thats not scripturally accurate or ever mentioned as a goal anywhere in the bookconfused

so no

my answer is that 'religion' can not, should not, will not, nor desires to-- save the worldhandshake
Dec 28, 2010 12:20 AM CST Can Religion save the world?
viva007
viva007viva007HYDERABAD, Telangana India41 Threads 8 Polls 7,447 Posts
carlosweb10: Most people feel that they need a change in their lives and in the world as well. For them both are not separated issues because we live in the same world.

So what about the ideas, beliefs, and outlook for a world change?
we could be saved without any religionhead banger
Dec 28, 2010 12:26 AM CST Can Religion save the world?
mindfful
mindffulmindffulChicago, Illinois USA235 Threads 8 Polls 18,996 Posts
viva007: we could be saved without any religion
hiiiii viva

of course you are right but people would have to cooperate and that aint gonna happen
Dec 28, 2010 12:29 AM CST Can Religion save the world?
viva007
viva007viva007HYDERABAD, Telangana India41 Threads 8 Polls 7,447 Posts
mindfful: hiiiii viva

of course you are right but people would have to cooperate and that aint gonna happen
yes with a collective effort peace
Dec 28, 2010 2:15 AM CST Can Religion save the world?
Blues63
Blues63Blues63Brisbane, Queensland Australia6 Threads 1 Polls 2,934 Posts
Albertaghost: I agree but don't believe that religion is the force that caused the violence but rather a tool for those who were predisposed to cause it anyhow for their own purposes.

Every conflict in history has been over something else rather than religion - even the Muslim conquest of India with it's 80 million deaths was not about Islam but rather about territory with the pretext of expanding the Muslim world for political and social reasons of that being an effective way to run things.

The Greeks and Romans, while religious, did not carry out conquests for religious reasons but rather for economic and similarly, prior to civilization, tribal warfare was for gain of land, hunting grounds and the elimination of enemies even though they worshiped the same deities. In short, few wars are over religion.

That said, most wars were led by leaders well steeped in religion be they at the forefront or in the hierarchy of the leaders and, religion was pulled up and out to the head of the campaigns as a way to lend credence to the spoils of war which would not be seen by those sacrificing their lives to win.

In short, it won't save anything nor will it destroy. It's just window dressing.


Alberta, I'm quite amused by those that cite the Crusades as a religious war. Sure enough, Pope Urban called for the liberation of the Holy Lands lost to the Caliphs, Emirs and Sultans of Islam after 622 A.D. However, those who took up the sword were men eager for loot, land, wealth and prestige. The atrocities inflicted upon Christian as well as Muslim are testament enough to the real motivations.
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