Are women turned off by men who hav done time in prison? (145)

Dec 12, 2010 10:21 AM CST Are women turned off by men who hav done time in prison?
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts
GingerBe: It is the same in every walk of life though. Someone once told me in business that if you do a good job the recipient/customer will tell 10 people, and if you do a bad job, they will tell 100.



Very true wine
Dec 12, 2010 10:24 AM CST Are women turned off by men who hav done time in prison?
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
GingerBe: So you feel indimitaded by the cameras? They serve to keep you safe too, and to bring those who might harm you to justice by being able to identify them. Depends on how you look at it of course.


Well, why not expand the nanny state out to its logical conclusion, and put us all under complete surveillance? After all, that would keep us all safe (and only criminals should object to being watched 24/7), no?

George Orwell knew better. Amazing to me that his lesson, so graphically illustrated in 1984, falls on deaf ears now.
Dec 12, 2010 10:30 AM CST Are women turned off by men who hav done time in prison?
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts
Ambrose2007: Well, why not expand the nanny state out to its logical conclusion, and put us all under complete surveillance? After all, that would keep us all safe (and only criminals should object to being watched 24/7), no?

George Orwell knew better. Amazing to me that his lesson, so graphically illustrated in 1984, falls on deaf ears now.



Sometimes I wonder if we already are Ambrose...and I agree 1984 should be required reading in school handshake
Dec 12, 2010 10:30 AM CST Are women turned off by men who hav done time in prison?
GingerBe
GingerBeGingerBeDonegal, Ireland2 Threads 3,106 Posts
Ambrose2007: Well, why not expand the nanny state out to its logical conclusion, and put us all under complete surveillance? After all, that would keep us all safe (and only criminals should object to being watched 24/7), no?

George Orwell knew better. Amazing to me that his lesson, so graphically illustrated in 1984, falls on deaf ears now.


Everyone on the planet is under surveillance by satellite......... There isn't a place on the surface of this planet that can't be seen, any time the powers-that-be wish it.

Criminals are too stupid to know, or care, that they are being watched.wave
Dec 12, 2010 10:33 AM CST Are women turned off by men who hav done time in prison?
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts
GingerBe: Everyone on the planet is under surveillance by satellite......... There isn't a place on the surface of this planet that can't be seen, any time the powers-that-be wish it.

Criminals are too stupid to know, or care, that they are being watched.



Makes me wonder why they havent found Bin-Laden eh...although I believe hes driving a taxi in Toronto grin
Dec 12, 2010 10:37 AM CST Are women turned off by men who hav done time in prison?
lucynad
lucynadlucynadSunny city, Sicilia Italy7 Threads 2,431 Posts
Ambrose2007: Well, why not expand the nanny state out to its logical conclusion, and put us all under complete surveillance? After all, that would keep us all safe (and only criminals should object to being watched 24/7), no?

George Orwell knew better. Amazing to me that his lesson, so graphically illustrated in 1984, falls on deaf ears now.


and written in 1948...

reading it was like a love at first sight for me...that sweet feeling of recognizing...

thumbs up wave
Dec 12, 2010 10:42 AM CST Are women turned off by men who hav done time in prison?
mnowsa
mnowsamnowsaRajshahi, Rajshahi Division Bangladesh145 Threads 3 Polls 7,536 Posts
lucynad: and written in 1948...

reading it was like a love at first sight for me...that sweet feeling of recognizing...


oh...i thought you were talking about meblushing
Dec 12, 2010 10:43 AM CST Are women turned off by men who hav done time in prison?
bodleing
bodleingbodleingGreater Manchester, England UK238 Threads 8 Polls 13,810 Posts
venusenvy: Sometimes I wonder if we already are Ambrose...and I agree 1984 should be required reading in school


The lemmings push their pens and rush
In hoards of crashing stupor
Towards the farms of Babylon
To scramble mother nature
Where unrelenting drudgery
Is all there is to nurture
And life and death are by consent
And love is for oppression
Welcome to my nightmare
It's the one in which I always press the button
In nineteen eighty-four
Nineteen eighty-four
Nineteen eighty-four
The one we've all been longing for
Nineteen eighty-four

Nineteen Forty-Eightish - Jimmy Page & Roy Harper - Jugula



grin
Dec 12, 2010 10:44 AM CST Are women turned off by men who hav done time in prison?
GingerBe
GingerBeGingerBeDonegal, Ireland2 Threads 3,106 Posts
venusenvy: Makes me wonder why they havent found Bin-Laden eh...although I believe hes driving a taxi in Toronto


They have always known where he is......... They have not been stupid enough to arrest him so far, for fear of pissing off the Arab princes he is related to........Bang goes oil if that happens.laugh

It's all about game playing and we are all pawns.hug
Dec 12, 2010 10:47 AM CST Are women turned off by men who hav done time in prison?
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts
GingerBe: They have always known where he is......... They have not been stupid enough to arrest him so far, for fear of pissing off the Arab princes he is related to........Bang goes oil if that happens.

It's all about game playing and we are all pawns.


Sad but true... People have forgotten the simple power in questioning things _flower:
Dec 12, 2010 10:48 AM CST Are women turned off by men who hav done time in prison?
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
bodleing: The lemmings push their pens and rush
In hoards of crashing stupor
Towards the farms of Babylon
To scramble mother nature
Where unrelenting drudgery
Is all there is to nurture
And life and death are by consent
And love is for oppression
Welcome to my nightmare
It's the one in which I always press the button
In nineteen eighty-four
Nineteen eighty-four
Nineteen eighty-four
The one we've all been longing for
Nineteen eighty-four

Nineteen Forty-Eightish - Jimmy Page & Roy Harper - Jugula



Thanks, G! head banger wine
Dec 12, 2010 10:57 AM CST Are women turned off by men who hav done time in prison?
bodleing
bodleingbodleingGreater Manchester, England UK238 Threads 8 Polls 13,810 Posts
Ambrose2007: Thanks, G!


cheers wave
Dec 12, 2010 11:10 AM CST Are women turned off by men who hav done time in prison?
cherrybrandy
cherrybrandycherrybrandycambridge, Cambridgeshire, England UK24 Threads 7,473 Posts
not the only read on the subject..
hello to Ambrose..wave always nice to see you..
Bradburry and Huxley -"Brave New World" and "Farenheit451"...
things have been spoken and will be..
but,in reality what alternatives do we have..instead of being policed?
Dec 12, 2010 11:13 AM CST Are women turned off by men who hav done time in prison?
pierrot_le_fou
pierrot_le_foupierrot_le_fouRiyadh, Ar Riyad Saudi Arabia8 Threads 1 Polls 582 Posts
GingerBe: They have always known where he is......... They have not been stupid enough to arrest him so far, for fear of pissing off the Arab princes he is related to........Bang goes oil if that happens.

It's all about game playing and we are all pawns.

Saudi Arabia's royal family are in better terms with US than with Bin Laden. That's what we know here. dunno
Dec 12, 2010 11:14 AM CST Are women turned off by men who hav done time in prison?
GingerBe
GingerBeGingerBeDonegal, Ireland2 Threads 3,106 Posts
bodleing: The lemmings push their pens and rush
In hoards of crashing stupor
Towards the farms of Babylon
To scramble mother nature
Where unrelenting drudgery
Is all there is to nurture
And life and death are by consent
And love is for oppression
Welcome to my nightmare
It's the one in which I always press the button
In nineteen eighty-four
Nineteen eighty-four
Nineteen eighty-four
The one we've all been longing for
Nineteen eighty-four

Nineteen Forty-Eightish - Jimmy Page & Roy Harper - Jugula



All people can do is sing about it, or talk about it. The rich will always have the power, and the poor will have to pay.sad flower
Dec 12, 2010 11:16 AM CST Are women turned off by men who hav done time in prison?
GingerBe
GingerBeGingerBeDonegal, Ireland2 Threads 3,106 Posts
pierrot_le_fou: Saudi Arabia's royal family are in better terms with US than with Bin Laden. That's what we know here.
Could be. I don't think they are going to take a chance on it though, blood being thicker than water and all that.wine
Dec 12, 2010 11:17 AM CST Are women turned off by men who hav done time in prison?
patmac
patmacpatmacglasgow, Strathclyde, Scotland UK730 Threads 6 Polls 9,662 Posts
cherrybrandy: not the only read on the subject..
hello to Ambrose.. always nice to see you..
Bradburry and Huxley -"Brave New World" and "Farenheit451"...
things have been spoken and will be..
but,in reality what alternatives do we have..instead of being policed?


Take back the things that we had as a right before the P C brigade, elements of the heath and safety took over, give kids back the right to be kids in school with all the rough and tumble it involves.

Admit accidents do happen and blame is not always attributable to anyone.

Restrict the over use of powers given to cover extreme incidents.

And bring back the common sense approach to life ....As always JMO
grin cheers
Dec 12, 2010 11:18 AM CST Are women turned off by men who hav done time in prison?
JeanMarlow
JeanMarlowJeanMarlowMiddle of Nowhere, California USA17 Threads 815 Posts
[quote=Jamess1974Are women turned off by men who have done time in prison?For me: absolutely, positively without a doubt yes, it is a total turn off. I don't expect a man to be any better than I am. I have managed to avoid prison all of my life, and it wasn't hard at all, avoiding prison, so I expect to have in my life someone who was able to avoid prison as well.
Dec 12, 2010 11:31 AM CST Are women turned off by men who hav done time in prison?
cherrybrandy
cherrybrandycherrybrandycambridge, Cambridgeshire, England UK24 Threads 7,473 Posts
patmac: Take back the things that we had as a right before the P C brigade, elements of the heath and safety took over, give kids back the right to be kids in school with all the rough and tumble it involves.

Admit accidents do happen and blame is not always attributable to anyone.

Restrict the over use of powers given to cover extreme incidents.

And bring back the common sense approach to life ....As always JMO
true,things get OTT,but,they like all public services aim to respond to public demand..
Dec 12, 2010 11:33 AM CST Are women turned off by men who hav done time in prison?
LILLYLADY
LILLYLADYLILLYLADYunknown, Ohio USA27 Threads 1,293 Posts
jahzah: See you'd say serve the public, i'd say control the public


Police serve the public as well as control the public based on the given circumstance at the time.

I'd say the police are pretty good at getting speeders, drunks and reckless drivers on the roads. There are legal road laws made for a reason. Ask any parent who has lost a child(grown or still young)to drunk drivers or reckless drivers. To get the drivers off the road before someone dies, be it themselves or others is a service to the public as well as a control to the driver himself.

Another example is the college kids on certain traditional "college holiday" traditions. They party, set couches and tires on fire, drink to excess, fall on the sidewalks and streets and many even attack other students in the drunkedness. And lots of underage drinking. The police have to keep them under control.

The police are called after home invasions, nuisance situations like neighbor problems, crime scenes of various types, fires, domestic violence situations and even go into the schools and talk to the kids early on about staying away from drugs and making good choices. Although in drug cases, it is obvious that they can't reach all because many of these kids are so deeply influenced by their environments and will do what they have to to survive in them.

So yes, police do serve and control. They have a tough job to do and I'm glad that communities have them. I do not like to see their pays slashed or any of them laid off due to budget cuts. Imagine our world without them there. There would be more mayhem for sure.

Imagine everyone taking the law into their own hands with no police. Here is an outlandish scenario if we were to take the law into our own hands with no police authority:

You go into the grocery store. Some little old lady bought the last bag of your favorite Dunkin Donuts coffee and Starkbucks java chip ice cream and won't give them up to you when you ask politely. So you just take out your Glock handgun and take the matter into your own hands. You administer the rule of law as you feel is the right way to deal with a most uncooperative and defiant lady. You shoot her between the eyes, step over her body and proceed to the checkout cashier, pay for your items and leave the store. Now this is what could happen if we didn't have any police to keep people under control and serve in the public's interst.

But police are like anyone else. You have those who are honest and uphold themselves and their occupation in high esteem and then you have others who are as crooked a dog's hindleg and hide behind their authority and use it in a dishonorable way that brings dishonor to themselves and the profession.

JMHO here!!
Dec 12, 2010 11:40 AM CST Are women turned off by men who hav done time in prison?
patmac
patmacpatmacglasgow, Strathclyde, Scotland UK730 Threads 6 Polls 9,662 Posts
cherrybrandy: true,things get OTT,but,they like all public services aim to respond to public demand..
I honestly do not think it is public demand, it may have been initially but the folk in charge of these bodies have gone beyond their remit.

Case in point. Kids prevented from playing conkers under health and safety laws. The Idea of health and safety was fine it helped control the industrial problems and the like but now they are overstepping the bounds of sanity and as as for the PC mob ...

I will always say Baa Baa Black sheep and call it Christmas...

The powers we gave to the police under the Terrorist Act have been totally abused. I mean go back to 2009 Labour conferance and the used that power to arrest an OAP at the request of the Labour Party ???

As always JMO...
Dec 27, 2010 4:26 AM CST Are women turned off by men who hav done time in prison?
katbell
katbellkatbellWaikato, New Zealand5 Threads 1 Polls 15 Posts
I just looked at your profile - with that body ...AND a uniform...heck you can have killed six people, you are still HOT cheering
Dec 27, 2010 7:28 AM CST Are women turned off by men who hav done time in prison?
Raynew1959
Raynew1959Raynew1959Barrington, New Hampshire USA120 Threads 2 Polls 2,218 Posts
GingerBe: Police everywhere are not the same. They are a group like any other, made up of individuals who, in this case, here in Ireland, serve the public, unless you are on the wrong side of the law.

I can understand that in some countries the police may be corrupt and to be feared, but that has never been my experience here.

I am sorry if your experience was different, but you can't just generalise and lump all police together.
thumbs up
Dec 27, 2010 7:43 AM CST Are women turned off by men who hav done time in prison?
time4fun4u
time4fun4utime4fun4uAlicante, Valencia Spain18 Threads 1 Polls 10,066 Posts
Take them off the streets for a month,then see what happens.
Jan 9, 2011 5:46 PM CST Are women turned off by men who hav done time in prison?
vcroome
vcroomevcroomeHolyoke, Massachusetts USA1 Threads 46 Posts
Yes, I'm completely against dating criminals, sorry.

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