everybody in the world wanted to see extra terrestrials at least ones in theirs lifetimes.and NASA spends millions on the projects to find another life beyond.they send signals outer space hoping the E.T s would find us one day. people make up many hoaxes around UFOs,and most people wants belive those stories hoping those were true.
but should we make a contact them.i mean if they can travel at the speed of life ,it means they r far more intellegent and advanced than us.in that case what would happen if they find us?probably they would invade earth make us work for them and take our resources. just like how europeans did in america with the indians.
of cource it could be otherwise.they could be too intellegent and not needing anything from us and would give us some advansed technologies to make our world easy and better.but would they???
i think we just have to stop sending signals to cosmos before they find our world and rape us.
so lets have a drink and enjoy our lives without E.Ts.even if its getting boring without them
I think we would be terribly foolish to think that we are the only intelligent life in the universe. And terribly arrogant.
I also believe that many of our technological advances, through the years, came as a result of reverse engineering. Reverse engineering that came from a spacecraft that I really believe did crash in New Mexico in 1947.
There are too many reports from airline pilots (off the record) of the strange things they have seen. Of course, they never officially acknowledged their existence, as they wanted to keep their jobs.
So, yes, I believe there is an E.T. our there, somewhere. And maybe, just maybe, someday, as a civilization, we will have advanced enough to warrant a positive contact.
aliens cant be trusted #1 we cant run and hide from them #2 we have no technology that can stop a full armada invasion #3 we are their experiment #4 there's nothing you can do about it anyway, so just get on with your lives and live the best you can.
Looking_Heart: aliens cant be trusted #1 we cant run and hide from them #2 we have no technology that can stop a full armada invasion #3 we are their experiment #4 there's nothing you can do about it anyway, so just get on with your lives and live the best you can.
some help most dont
It seems to me that they have been here from the dawn of time ,worshiped as Gods. Maybe even they should be considerate as the Creator of religion and who knows, maybe even Homosapiens
Boban1: It seems to me that they have been here from the dawn of time ,worshiped as Gods. Maybe even they should be considerate as the Creator of religion and who knows, maybe even Homosapiens
we are breeding vessel hosts for real super beings
If they suvived long enough to have this superior technology, then it stands to reason that they would have advanced further in other ways . Our developement of modern technologys first became a new means to wipe us out . it almost succeeded . Only afterward did we ( the most technacly advanced ) beguin to realise that this was a dead end . Even today only backward nations threten us with extinction . Perhaps the advanced alien civalazations got past these times and moved on . Also if they could do harm to us why haven't they done so . . . .
Frankinstien: If they suvived long enough to have this superior technology, then it stands to reason that they would have advanced further in other ways . Our developement of modern technologys first became a new means to wipe us out . it almost succeeded . Only afterward did we ( the most technacly advanced ) beguin to realise that this was a dead end . Even today only backward nations threten us with extinction . Perhaps the advanced alien civalazations got past these times and moved on . Also if they could do harm to us why haven't they done so . . . .
the shepherd never eats or sells all his sheep at once
frenchfree: About Ederman, he organised his own fake abduction and disapperared... at the isle of Reunion, where cops found him. He said: "I hope nobody would never find me anymore". Despite his fake abduction, it is very possible that he felt threatened, by humans or ETs, and had chosen to disappear. He was a very clever man, trained as a jet pilot, he surely saw many strange things all over his life. And facts are proven, as says Edgar Mitchell :
Maybe he would not have got caught by cops if he hadn`t used a double negative. ;)
And your vid sums it up with plenty of imagery - especially my favourite clip of the moving dot outside Earth`s atmosphere that gets shot at by what seems like a laser beam (around 8:05), but changes direction and accelerates to a very high speed to avoid being hit. There was a mainstream media article, maybe last year, IIRC, where the military admits to shooting down one of their own drones with a laser cannon, as part of a successful test.
Another strange series of pictures by an amateur astronomer, who, while looking for the ISS, found other similar shaped structures, that weren`t the ISS, floating in space:
Boban1: It seems to me that they have been here from the dawn of time ,worshiped as Gods. Maybe even they should be considerate as the Creator of religion and who knows, maybe even Homosapiens
According to some Bible passages, "They have mated with the daughters of man" - which I can`t blame them for, as there are some real lookers here on Earth, whatever race. Apparently Earth is unique in this, being a melting-pot, making it easier for us to learn how to accept differences...
jvaski: I hate the probing they do once they get ya in the spaceship
Never happened to me, but I assume those ones are still learning about our metabolism - or what anaesthetic to use. There are others who already know, so they just want to talk. Some may even be lurking in these forums.
omgamike: I think we would be terribly foolish to think that we are the only intelligent life in the universe. And terribly arrogant.
I also believe that many of our technological advances, through the years, came as a result of reverse engineering. Reverse engineering that came from a spacecraft that I really believe did crash in New Mexico in 1947.
There are too many reports from airline pilots (off the record) of the strange things they have seen. Of course, they never officially acknowledged their existence, as they wanted to keep their jobs.
So, yes, I believe there is an E.T. our there, somewhere. And maybe, just maybe, someday, as a civilization, we will have advanced enough to warrant a positive contact.
i agree that we r not alone.but i dont believe rosvell crash.if it really had happened then it means we got theirs spaceship with speed of light technology.and if we had it we could get much more technologies than what we have.what? we could only make "stealth"? i think all this recordes r hoaxes.but of course no one is sure.
Boban1: It seems to me that they have been here from the dawn of time ,worshiped as Gods. Maybe even they should be considerate as the Creator of religion and who knows, maybe even Homosapiens
phineas: Maybe he would not have got caught by cops if he hadn`t used a double negative. ;)
And your vid sums it up with plenty of imagery - especially my favourite clip of the moving dot outside Earth`s atmosphere that gets shot at by what seems like a laser beam (around 8:05), but changes direction and accelerates to a very high speed to avoid being hit. There was a mainstream media article, maybe last year, IIRC, where the military admits to shooting down one of their own drones with a laser cannon, as part of a successful test.
Another strange series of pictures by an amateur astronomer, who, while looking for the ISS, found other similar shaped structures, that weren`t the ISS, floating in space:
The problem is that while most of the populace is brainwashed with advertising and political propaganda, no amount of proof will get through.
Yes, you are right. I apologize for my bad translation : he actually said "would ever find me anymore". (In french, ever and never are the same word, you just add a preposition to reverse the sense: "ever" = "toujours", "never" = "jamais", "for ever" means "pour toujours", "never" means "jamais", but "à jamais" means "for ever". Easy, isn't it ? This is "the mistake of the beginner", I am unforgivable.) So Ederman actually said "I hoped nobody would ever find me anymore".
About exopolitic, which is a real concern for militarian world organisations, we have to only think about what is our behavior towards primitive tribes (one has been recently found in south America): do we choose to interfere, or do we let them be ? This would be the same from extraterrestrial people toward us, primitive civilisation of "killers themselves". Here, in France, a report had been given in proper hands to the ex- president of the republic, Jacques Chirac, in 1999. This non-official report was the result of a study made by retired influent military executives and well-known scientists, was called "Cometa report", and was pointing on the fact that extraterrestrial beings and technologies were an actual threat for humanity. This report was very serious, well documented, talked about exobiology, antiquity. If you have time enough, try to find it on the internet and use a translator. Many things are stunning. This was very disturbing, as french people usually don't want to hear about flying saucers and other clowning.
TrueBlue1986: If humanity ever reaches other star systems it'll be because we've no resources left on Earth and need to find resources elsewhere. For all life everywhere this material rule would likely be the same, so rationally speaking any alien life would be coming here for our resources, which is bad news for us.
Obviously this is speculation, but there's a logic to this and it's not just story telling like Star Trek or E.T.
And the lack of any Alien contact does lead to the conclusion that interstellar travel may very well be impossible, as a kind of laws of the universe thing - a bit like time travel being an impossible paradox.
What you`ve said, makes sens from this point of view ,bare in mind that with advanced technology ,comes a evolved mind ... evolved mind is not necessarily greedy and evil
Rumyet: i agree that we r not alone.but i dont believe rosvell crash.if it really had happened then it means we got theirs spaceship with speed of light technology.and if we had it we could get much more technologies than what we have.what? we could only make "stealth"? i think all this recordes r hoaxes.but of course no one is sure.
Apparently the Roswell crash was not the only one, just the one that actually got out before the authorities managed to put a cover on it.
Stealth wasn`t the only discovery either - microchips could be another. If we didn`t have those, our PCs would be the size of the NASA assembly building, or even bigger...
The problem with reverse engineering is that we need to understand what`s being taken apart, and while we do understand electronics, we are still stuck with Einstein`s physics when it comes to the theory of gravity. There is a glimmer of hope though - see:
TrueBlue1986: If humanity ever reaches other star systems it'll be because we've no resources left on Earth and need to find resources elsewhere. For all life everywhere this material rule would likely be the same, so rationally speaking any alien life would be coming here for our resources, which is bad news for us.
Obviously this is speculation, but there's a logic to this and it's not just story telling like Star Trek or E.T.
And the lack of any Alien contact does lead to the conclusion that interstellar travel may very well be impossible, as a kind of laws of the universe thing - a bit like time travel being an impossible paradox.
Your first para is spot on, that is exactly why we have to learn how to live within a Resource Based Economy - namely to stop waste and to make things that won`t break when the guarantee runs out. It can be done, see the last link in my first post to this thread. I assume it has been done by others already, so now they are watching and waiting...
Assuming a "lack of Alien contact" is like assuming that the Earth is flat and the Sun rises out of the Sea and drops back into it at the end of the day. It may look like it from a boat or the beach, but science tells us otherwise - and now we can even see Earth from space, which was believed to be impossible before we actually did it.
The video posted by frenchfree shows a whole collection of contacts - the same can be found easily on YT in many other forms, and of course in English too.
frenchfree: Yes, you are right. I apologize for my bad translation : he actually said "would ever find me anymore". (In french, ever and never are the same word, you just add a preposition to reverse the sense: "ever" = "toujours", "never" = "jamais", "for ever" means "pour toujours", "never" means "jamais", but "à jamais" means "for ever". Easy, isn't it ? This is "the mistake of the beginner", I am unforgivable.) So Ederman actually said "I hoped nobody would ever find me anymore".
Oh, man, don`t ruin it! It was perfect for me to make a joke on...
I assumed you quoted it verbatim, so I am sorry if it came across as a slur on your English, which is perfect enough. I am not a native either, it is my third language, after Hungarian and German, not counting French lessons at a Swiss school.
frenchfree: About exopolitic, which is a real concern for militarian world organisations, we have to only think about what is our behavior towards primitive tribes (one has been recently found in south America): do we choose to interfere, or do we let them be ? This would be the same from extraterrestrial people toward us, primitive civilisation of "killers themselves". Here, in France, a report had been given in proper hands to the ex- president of the republic, Jacques Chirac, in 1999. This non-official report was the result of a study made by retired influent military executives and well-known scientists, was called "Cometa report", and was pointing on the fact that extraterrestrial beings and technologies were an actual threat for humanity. This report was very serious, well documented, talked about exobiology, antiquity. If you have time enough, try to find it on the internet and use a translator. Many things are stunning. This was very disturbing, as french people usually don't want to hear about flying saucers and other clowning.
LOL, not just French people, but a lot of people in general. It is called "fear of the unknown". Reality is often different than what we imagine, so fearing it is quite irrational.
Thanks for that info, ff, I`ll look it up - although I believe the old political/military/monetary structures had their day. Recent years` financial events are signs of it. We really need different sets of guidelines to deal with exopolitics as well as our own. Especially our own - it will make the other easier.
As for indigenuous tribes - they are on this planet and have the same rights as everybody else. My own take is that we should leave them alone instead of encroaching into their habitats. If we don`t appear nasty to them, they might come out of their own accord, and then we can learn from them, and allow them to learn from us too, in their own time. But first we have to learn how to be proper inhabitants of planet Earth ourselves.
Meanwhile you can google "Archuleta Mesa" or "Dulce Base" and/or have a look at this:
Boban1: What you`ve said, makes sens from this point of view ,bare in mind that with advanced technology ,comes a evolved mind ... evolved mind is not necessarily greedy and evil
In fact I would say that we need an evolved mind before we can actually come up with the advanced technology. Or is it a chicken/egg situation?
Reverse engineering is like cheating, and what M$ did with CP/M to come up with M$-DOS, and later the same with OS/2, MacOS and Amiga to come up with Windows - not what evolved minds would do. But all cause to greed and exploitation can easily be nipped in the bud, IMO necessary before we can shake hands with Galactic Ambassadors.
frenchfree: but they are not so peaceful as some could think. Archives about those facts are easy to find on google.
I must add, this is my opinion (and a great hope) that there could be "good" aliens who protect the humans against "nasty" aliens. And some archeology discoveries could confirm that (Sumerians and so on).
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but should we make a contact them.i mean if they can travel at the speed of life ,it means they r far more intellegent and advanced than us.in that case what would happen if they find us?probably they would invade earth make us work for them and take our resources. just like how europeans did in america with the indians.
of cource it could be otherwise.they could be too intellegent and not needing anything from us and would give us some advansed technologies to make our world easy and better.but would they???
i think we just have to stop sending signals to cosmos before they find our world and rape us.
so lets have a drink and enjoy our lives without E.Ts.even if its getting boring without them