How soon do you want to become a non-single? (111)
normalguy68: Not of my choice though just like the Aboriginal families.
That's the similarity you are so blind to see.
Yes but Normal you do have the comfort of knowing they are with their mother and family members that they know. The same thing cannot be said for the stolen generation.That's the similarity you are so blind to see.
Thats the way I see it anyway.
Billy6456:
Mine wasn't steam........
Mine wasn't steam........
I'm off to work 
sxc666: Yes but Normal you do have the comfort of knowing they are with their mother and family members that they know. The same thing cannot be said for the stolen generation.
Thats the way I see it anyway.
Thats the way I see it anyway.
You win.
normalguy68: You win.
It's a flippin miracle 
normalguy68: Why bother, every statement you make will just be forum trolled.
Only go with the pack or you will be consumed and spat out.
Let it all hang out mate, and you should be back to normal soon.Only go with the pack or you will be consumed and spat out.
kizzy27: I am sorry for your loss Jem but his children are not dead they are being kept from him, he shouldnt have to "cope" with that if he can do anything to rectify the situation he should do it.
Divorce & separation should not mean that one parent has to grieve for the loss of his or her children, not when that parent wants to be a part of their life in every way
Losing a child to death is totally different.
Divorce & separation should not mean that one parent has to grieve for the loss of his or her children, not when that parent wants to be a part of their life in every way
Losing a child to death is totally different.
kizzy my original post that you objected to was :so if the unthinkable happens and you are not allowed access to your children you will never be happy again?
I think not, as unthinkable as it is, you will learn to cope.
I was trying to help Normal through this, and still am, my own child loss is not the only experience that I have, it is just one of the most poignant.
It is possible, highly unlikely but, that Normal will not be granted access, so just coz it is not likely do we not try to prepare him for all possibilities?
Death is final yes, no access is as well and is also torture at the same time as they are still alive and you cannot see them. I know that one as well, as the baby everyone thought was mine, was taken from my care, by her parent and then dumped out of spite, with it taking years to get even just contact back with her, made even harder coz I wasnt her blood mother although she spent her time with me.
Normal needs to stand by himself, to learn to be himself alone, and if he can do this he will be even stronger not only for himself but for his girls. This skill will also stand him in good stead to be able to stand in front of the ex, smile sweetly, and not say anything to inflame the situation making things easier in the long run.
I say again, the adults are not the important part of all this, it is the children that should come out winners.
This is just a comment and NOT DIRECTED AT ANYONE OK. I have known pedofiles who have been denied access to their children who they profess to love with all their heart. 
Who knows what goes on in other peoples lives.
Who knows what goes on in other peoples lives.sxc666: completely different. A marriage break up enables a child to at least stay with one parent, and family members, the stolen generation were thrown into places, situations without any family, love or support.The two issues are very different and should not be being compared to a typical marriage break up, that is just pathetic.
Yes! Totally. Thank you for making this post.
Do people realise the stolen generation was a way to try and totally wipe out an entire race of people?
Having your children ripped from your arms never to be seen ever again or even know where they are and for those children to lose any sense of indentity they have is not comparable to a marriage breakdown where you know the whereabouts of your children and that they're still with some of their family. Its just. not. the. same.
Normal you work in a bookshop, you should be more educated on this issue.
Please stop comparing the two because its ridiculous.
Now back onto the original topic.
Having your children ripped from your arms never to be seen ever again or even know where they are and for those children to lose any sense of indentity they have is not comparable to a marriage breakdown where you know the whereabouts of your children and that they're still with some of their family. Its just. not. the. same.
Normal you work in a bookshop, you should be more educated on this issue.
Please stop comparing the two because its ridiculous.
Now back onto the original topic.
kittykawaii: Do people realise the stolen generation was a way to try and totally wipe out an entire race of people?
Having your children ripped from your arms never to be seen ever again or even know where they are and for those children to lose any sense of indentity they have is not comparable to a marriage breakdown where you know the whereabouts of your children and that they're still with some of their family. Its just. not. the. same.
Normal you work in a bookshop, you should be more educated on this issue.
Please stop comparing the two because its ridiculous.
Now back onto the original topic.
Having your children ripped from your arms never to be seen ever again or even know where they are and for those children to lose any sense of indentity they have is not comparable to a marriage breakdown where you know the whereabouts of your children and that they're still with some of their family. Its just. not. the. same.
Normal you work in a bookshop, you should be more educated on this issue.
Please stop comparing the two because its ridiculous.
Now back onto the original topic.
Of course I know that Kitty , This was not the point you know it ,
Bloody hell
bonsai: This is just a comment and NOT DIRECTED AT ANYONE OK. I have known pedofiles who have been denied access to their children who they profess to love with all their heart. Who knows what goes on in other peoples lives.
I cant believe i read this either
jem1964: kizzy my original post that you objected to was :so if the unthinkable happens and you are not allowed access to your children you will never be happy again?
I think not, as unthinkable as it is, you will learn to cope.
I was trying to help Normal through this, and still am, my own child loss is not the only experience that I have, it is just one of the most poignant.
It is possible, highly unlikely but, that Normal will not be granted access, so just coz it is not likely do we not try to prepare him for all possibilities?
Death is final yes, no access is as well and is also torture at the same time as they are still alive and you cannot see them. I know that one as well, as the baby everyone thought was mine, was taken from my care, by her parent and then dumped out of spite, with it taking years to get even just contact back with her, made even harder coz I wasnt her blood mother although she spent her time with me.
Normal needs to stand by himself, to learn to be himself alone, and if he can do this he will be even stronger not only for himself but for his girls. This skill will also stand him in good stead to be able to stand in front of the ex, smile sweetly, and not say anything to inflame the situation making things easier in the long run.
yeah ok ...sure
I say again, the adults are not the important part of all this, it is the children that should come out winners.
I think not, as unthinkable as it is, you will learn to cope.
I was trying to help Normal through this, and still am, my own child loss is not the only experience that I have, it is just one of the most poignant.
It is possible, highly unlikely but, that Normal will not be granted access, so just coz it is not likely do we not try to prepare him for all possibilities?
Death is final yes, no access is as well and is also torture at the same time as they are still alive and you cannot see them. I know that one as well, as the baby everyone thought was mine, was taken from my care, by her parent and then dumped out of spite, with it taking years to get even just contact back with her, made even harder coz I wasnt her blood mother although she spent her time with me.
Normal needs to stand by himself, to learn to be himself alone, and if he can do this he will be even stronger not only for himself but for his girls. This skill will also stand him in good stead to be able to stand in front of the ex, smile sweetly, and not say anything to inflame the situation making things easier in the long run.
yeah ok ...sure
I say again, the adults are not the important part of all this, it is the children that should come out winners.
kittykawaii: Do people realise the stolen generation was a way to try and totally wipe out an entire race of people?
Having your children ripped from your arms never to be seen ever again or even know where they are and for those children to lose any sense of indentity they have is not comparable to a marriage breakdown where you know the whereabouts of your children and that they're still with some of their family. Its just. not. the. same.
Normal you work in a bookshop, you should be more educated on this issue.
Please stop comparing the two because its ridiculous.
Now back onto the original topic.
Im with you kitty. I was in Alice Springs in 1974, cyclone tracy hit Darwin on my birthday, christmas eve so we could not drive any further. Spent extra time in Alice and the now known Uluru. Heard terrible stories.Having your children ripped from your arms never to be seen ever again or even know where they are and for those children to lose any sense of indentity they have is not comparable to a marriage breakdown where you know the whereabouts of your children and that they're still with some of their family. Its just. not. the. same.
Normal you work in a bookshop, you should be more educated on this issue.
Please stop comparing the two because its ridiculous.
Now back onto the original topic.
Was in Meekatharra WA in 05, 80% indiginous and what an eye opener. Back at the beautiful, spiritual rock in central aust feb last year. The two subjects are miles apart in my eyes. 
I have read every post, and still have no idea of how soon I wanna become a non single.
kizzy27: I cant believe i read this either
Do you believe everything you read on here or elsewhere. 
I hope not.
normalguy68: It's quite simple, How long do you want it to take before you're happily hitched up with your significant other?
Personally the sooner the better, but I'm pretty fussy so it may take a little longer than I want it to.
Personally the sooner the better, but I'm pretty fussy so it may take a little longer than I want it to.
Hope this isn't taken the wrong way
But in my humble opinion normal, you're nowhere near ready to start dating again.
serene56: Hope this isn't taken the wrong way
But in my humble opinion normal, you're nowhere near ready to start dating again.
But in my humble opinion normal, you're nowhere near ready to start dating again.
No disrespect to Normal but I have to agree.
Just because one is single, doesn't necessarily mean they are ready to date again.
I know I'm not ready and so I choose to not date.
serene56: Hope this isn't taken the wrong way
But in my humble opinion normal, you're nowhere near ready to start dating again.
But in my humble opinion normal, you're nowhere near ready to start dating again.
I think your right...
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Please just let us all try and support, advise, and respect each other.There are our joke threads, and our serious threads.
this has become very serious, a lot of personal issues are being raised and a lot of personal insults are being thrown.
At the end of the day, its not easy to lose a child via marriage break up or via death.
As much as we laugh together here, it would be good to see we support each other also.
I believe Normal has every right to vent, he apologised last night for the way he come across, live and let live.
We've all blown off steam.
Mine wasn't steam........