Should Gadafi be removed by foreign forces? ( Archived) (37)

May 26, 2011 8:53 AM CSTShould Gadafi be removed by foreign forces?

Should Gadafi be removed by foreign forces?(Vote Below)

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Yes, definitively.Int community ponders it
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Yes, till some extend
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No, by its internal claimings and foreign interest
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No, self determination. No agression, No aid.
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Human rights and humanitarian aid in conflictive areas might be an excuse for other real interests(E.g, Irak) International rights did not usually have got good results when intervening in a peaceful or militar way. It might cause subsecuent conflicts.(e.g, Middle east) what about Lybia´s case?roll eyes
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May 26, 2011 8:57 AM CST Should Gadafi be removed by foreign forces?
manroe23
manroe23manroe23indonesia, Jakarta Indonesia7 Threads 6,801 Posts
He should hang for his crime frustrated
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May 26, 2011 9:04 AM CST Should Gadafi be removed by foreign forces?
TrueBlue1986
TrueBlue1986TrueBlue1986Sale, South Manchester, Cheshire, England UK1,322 Posts
carlosweb10: Human rights and humanitarian aid in conflictive areas might be an excuse for other real interests(E.g, Irak) International rights did not usually have got good results when intervening in a peaceful or militar way. It might cause subsecuent conflicts.(e.g, Middle east) what about Lybia´s case?


My philosophical view is that one nation should refrain from interfering in the internal affairs of another. So on this basis I don't believe he should be removed by a foreign power.

However, we - broadly speaking - are the reason for the existence of Gaddafi's power base. If I were to give a gun to a man who I know is a murderer and this man goes ahead and kills somebody with it, their blood is on my hands. So in this light I believe us to be morally obligated to work against Gaddafi. The fact that Libya is so close to Europe only adds to the argument.
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May 26, 2011 9:06 AM CST Should Gadafi be removed by foreign forces?
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
TrueBlue1986: My philosophical view is that one nation should refrain from interfering in the internal affairs of another. So on this basis I don't believe he should be removed by a foreign power.

However, we - broadly speaking - are the reason for the existence of Gaddafi's power base. If I were to give a gun to a man who I know is a murderer and this man goes ahead and kills somebody with it, their blood is on my hands. So in this light I believe us to be morally obligated to work against Gaddafi. The fact that Libya is so close to Europe only adds to the argument.
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May 26, 2011 9:50 AM CST Should Gadafi be removed by foreign forces?
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
carlosweb10: Human rights and humanitarian aid in conflictive areas might be an excuse for other real interests(E.g, Irak)/quote]

Well if Gaddafi, as in the case of Saddam Hussien is in violation of UN resolutions and ceasefire conditions as well as murdering his own people and, like Iraq, action is authorized then by all means, take the authorized actions to accomplish what the UNSC has laid out.

International rights did not usually have got good results when intervening in a peaceful or militar way. It might cause subsecuent conflicts.(e.g, Middle east) what about Lybia´s case?


Could you qualify this question with a couple of examples please as I'm not sure what you mean.
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May 26, 2011 9:51 AM CST Should Gadafi be removed by foreign forces?
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
carlosweb10: Human rights and humanitarian aid in conflictive areas might be an excuse for other real interests(E.g, Irak)


Well if Gaddafi, as in the case of Saddam Hussien is in violation of UN resolutions and ceasefire conditions as well as murdering his own people and, like Iraq, action is authorized then by all means, take the authorized actions to accomplish what the UNSC has laid out.

carlosweb10: International rights did not usually have got good results when intervening in a peaceful or militar way. It might cause subsecuent conflicts.(e.g, Middle east) what about Lybia´s case?


Could you qualify this question with a couple of examples please as I'm not sure what you mean.
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May 26, 2011 9:54 AM CST Should Gadafi be removed by foreign forces?
TallPete
TallPeteTallPeteSutton, Surrey, England UK11 Threads 2 Polls 206 Posts
TrueBlue1986: My philosophical view is that one nation should refrain from interfering in the internal affairs of another. So on this basis I don't believe he should be removed by a foreign power.

However, we - broadly speaking - are the reason for the existence of Gaddafi's power base. If I were to give a gun to a man who I know is a murderer and this man goes ahead and kills somebody with it, their blood is on my hands. So in this light I believe us to be morally obligated to work against Gaddafi. The fact that Libya is so close to Europe only adds to the argument.


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May 26, 2011 9:57 AM CST Should Gadafi be removed by foreign forces?
ZAKER
ZAKERZAKERHyderabad, Telangana India21 Threads 1 Polls 97 Posts
Let the people of Libya decide their own fate. Who is US to create a terror in Libya? Why is UN not stopping US from interfering into the affairs of other nations.
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May 26, 2011 10:10 AM CST Should Gadafi be removed by foreign forces?
solitare
solitaresolitareBariloche, Rio Negro Argentina40 Threads 4,041 Posts
The old concept of any nation to withstand meddling/ interferring in its 'internal affairs' is limited only to those well armed and influence, such as the European nations, the Us, Canada, Russia, China and India while several of those can and do interfere in the so called internal affairs of other nations should they decide to. The concept of 'internal affairs has died and remains only for the powerful nations. Another wake-up call to the real New World Order, rapidly becoming a danger to all nations who wish to be truly sovereign.Sig Hi,y'all!
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May 26, 2011 10:12 AM CST Should Gadafi be removed by foreign forces?
blarneykite
blarneykiteblarneykiteSomewhere, Carlow Ireland31 Threads 3,901 Posts
ZAKER: Let the people of Libya decide their own fate. Who is US to create a terror in Libya? Why is UN not stopping US from interfering into the affairs of other nations.
Because it wasn't the USA who decided... The security council diddoh
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May 26, 2011 10:28 AM CST Should Gadafi be removed by foreign forces?
swf1950
swf1950swf1950spring, Texas USA1 Threads 75 Posts
I want to know who is going to come an liberate the US from the dumb asses in Washington. help help help help
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May 26, 2011 10:30 AM CST Should Gadafi be removed by foreign forces?
cherrygc
cherrygccherrygcAbu Halifa, Al Ahmadi Kuwait16 Threads 1 Polls 487 Posts
Albertaghost: What ceasefire conditions is Israel in violation of and what documented murdering of their own people has occurred?

They violated over 100 UN resolutions, but this thread is not about isreal
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May 26, 2011 10:33 AM CST Should Gadafi be removed by foreign forces?
blarneykite
blarneykiteblarneykiteSomewhere, Carlow Ireland31 Threads 3,901 Posts
Albertaghost: What ceasefire conditions is Israel in violation of and what documented murdering of their own people has occurred?
Yet again selective reading and listening... They are in breach of in excess of 35 un resolutions, taking land against international law, being a terrorist state etc etc etc
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May 26, 2011 10:34 AM CST Should Gadafi be removed by foreign forces?
blarneykite
blarneykiteblarneykiteSomewhere, Carlow Ireland31 Threads 3,901 Posts
swf1950: I want to know who is going to come an liberate the US from the dumb asses in Washington.
OBAMA
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May 26, 2011 10:36 AM CST Should Gadafi be removed by foreign forces?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
blarneykite: OBAMA

OMG redclown redclown redclown
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May 26, 2011 10:38 AM CST Should Gadafi be removed by foreign forces?
blarneykite
blarneykiteblarneykiteSomewhere, Carlow Ireland31 Threads 3,901 Posts
galrads: OMG
Which of course is about 50 rungs up the ladder for the MORON Bush Jnr
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May 26, 2011 10:41 AM CST Should Gadafi be removed by foreign forces?
matchbox
matchboxmatchboxbalzan, Majjistral Malta134 Threads 1 Polls 635 Posts
carlosweb10: Human rights and humanitarian aid in conflictive areas might be an excuse for other real interests(E.g, Irak) International rights did not usually have got good results when intervening in a peaceful or militar way. It might cause subsecuent conflicts.(e.g, Middle east) what about Lybia´s case?
at the end thats what will happen i think, he will be removed by foreign forces, and my wish is that he will be captured and brought to justice too.
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May 26, 2011 10:42 AM CST Should Gadafi be removed by foreign forces?
cherrygc
cherrygccherrygcAbu Halifa, Al Ahmadi Kuwait16 Threads 1 Polls 487 Posts
blarneykite: Which of course is about 50 rungs up the ladder for the MORON Bush Jnr


At least when Obama comes to the Middle East people will keep their shoes onrolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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May 26, 2011 10:49 AM CST Should Gadafi be removed by foreign forces?
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
blarneykite: Yet again selective reading and listening... They are in breach of in excess of 35 un resolutions, taking land against international law, being a terrorist state etc etc etc


You started the selective reading BK. I said;

""Well if Gaddafi, as in the case of Saddam Hussien is in violation of UN resolutions and ceasefire conditions as well as murdering his own people and, like Iraq, action is authorized then by all means, take the authorized actions to accomplish what the UNSC has laid out.""

Why on earth you decided to concentrate on resolutions when the stark truth of the matter is ceasefire conditions, mass murder of hundreds of thousands of his own citizens and action authorized to take whatever measures deemed necessary to reign him in I can only surmise is because you have no argument.
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May 26, 2011 10:51 AM CST Should Gadafi be removed by foreign forces?
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
cherrygc: They violated over 100 UN resolutions, but this thread is not about isreal


And how many ceasefire conditions have they broken and, how many of their own citizens have they mass murdered and how many resolutions have been issued authorizing any and all means necessary to force them to adhere?

Then again, this thread is not about Israel and my original question has been sidetracked by yourself and BK.

Thanks for showing up though.thumbs up
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May 26, 2011 10:53 AM CST Should Gadafi be removed by foreign forces?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
blarneykite: Which of course is about 50 rungs up the ladder for the MORON Bush Jnr

Why? Because Obama is Irish? rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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May 26, 2011 10:53 AM CST Should Gadafi be removed by foreign forces?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
blarneykite: Which of course is about 50 rungs up the ladder for the MORON Bush Jnr

Why? Because Obama is Irish? rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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May 26, 2011 10:55 AM CST Should Gadafi be removed by foreign forces?
blarneykite
blarneykiteblarneykiteSomewhere, Carlow Ireland31 Threads 3,901 Posts
galrads: Why? Because Obama is Irish?
No, because he's got a brain and education...It's not all about making the rich, richerdoh
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May 26, 2011 10:57 AM CST Should Gadafi be removed by foreign forces?
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
blarneykite: No, because he's got a brain and education...It's not all about making the rich, richer


Bush has the same education creds and, on top of that, he freed fifty million people and invaded two countries. Obama has four wars on the go and has invaded the same number.rolling on the floor laughing
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May 26, 2011 10:59 AM CST Should Gadafi be removed by foreign forces?
galrads: Why? Because Obama is Irish?
O'Bama?rolling on the floor laughing
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May 26, 2011 11:01 AM CST Should Gadafi be removed by foreign forces?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
blarneykite: No, because he's got a brain and education...It's not all about making the rich, richer

hahaha yeah you mean he's just making everyone poorer, and more so making everyone equal and indigent when Obamacare kicks in! rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing wine
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May 26, 2011 11:02 AM CST Should Gadafi be removed by foreign forces?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Conrad73: O'Bama?
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May 26, 2011 11:11 AM CST Should Gadafi be removed by foreign forces?
solitare
solitaresolitareBariloche, Rio Negro Argentina40 Threads 4,041 Posts
cherrygc: At least when Obama comes to the Middle East people will keep their shoes on

Perhaps not as with all the other countries like Syria, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Muscat, Oman, etc. being ever so conveniently forgotten about or mentioned...he may end up with enough shoes to open a shoe store. Most peoples are fed up with US hypocrisy.
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May 26, 2011 4:40 PM CST Should Gadafi be removed by foreign forces?
swf1950
swf1950swf1950spring, Texas USA1 Threads 75 Posts
blarneykite: OBAMA


OMG I hope you are joking. As far as I am concerned he is part of the dumb asses in Washings.

I mean clean HOUSE all 3 of them.
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May 26, 2011 5:04 PM CST Should Gadafi be removed by foreign forces?
xxDandelionxx
xxDandelionxxxxDandelionxxunknown, Hampshire, England UK8 Threads 2,525 Posts
TrueBlue1986: My philosophical view is that one nation should refrain from interfering in the internal affairs of another. So on this basis I don't believe he should be removed by a foreign power.

However, we - broadly speaking - are the reason for the existence of Gaddafi's power base. If I were to give a gun to a man who I know is a murderer and this man goes ahead and kills somebody with it, their blood is on my hands. So in this light I believe us to be morally obligated to work against Gaddafi. The fact that Libya is so close to Europe only adds to the argument.


To a great degree, I agree. thumbs up

But what is the criteria though for a foreign power intervening or not? I mean.... if its about genocide, i.e. the Saddam Husseins of this world, Mugabe? Why is he always left alone to continue committing his atrocities?
dunno confused

Sale, eh? thumbs up cheers
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May 26, 2011 5:38 PM CST Should Gadafi be removed by foreign forces?
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
kidatheart: What Republican propaganda have you been reading now?

They were involved before Kennedy.


Really? The US didn't even have special forces there prior to Kennedy.confused confused
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