RE: What will become of Iraq after the US pulls troops out today?

Of course it was about oil. The entire middle east conflict, including the creation of Israel has always been about oil.

To even suggest otherwise is ludicrous.

RE: Do you believe in Astrology?

I think that like many other forms of divination, such as the reading of crystal balls or tea leaves, or turtle shells or deer antlers or or I-ching, or whatever, astrology works by suggestion and by presenting alternative ways of looking at things. A way to break out of mental ruts that we tend to create and view the world from a broader and more detached and objective perspective.

However, getting too hung up in the trivial dogma of divination has exactly the opposite effect, limiting our thoughts.

RE: Belgium Gun & Grenade Attack..

Get real.

What's happening in Syria is just like what happened in Libya.
The CIA went in and funded some terrorist groups to launch an insurgency, killing a lot of civilians and a few soldiers. The government then launches an operation to root out the terrorists.

Then the media spins it as brutal government oppression and uses the hired terrorists as "eyewitnesses" about how evil the government is.

The intent is to continually hype up the violence so that NATO or the UN can start bombing the country and bring their hired insurgents to power.

RE: The worst president of the U.S. of the last decades is

Politics is both a game and a joke.

RE: USA is a "Battleground"

Not just Posse Comitatus.

Habeas Corpus, the Bill of Rights, and just about every other protection against tyranny have been shredded since 911.

As it stands now there is literally nothing that the government cannot "legally" do to citizens. Including arrest without cause, torture, and even summary execution. Both parties are involved.
Nobody is standing up for human rights.

RE: Who should bail-out Europe?

And they were all happy until the next day when the tax man came to town demanding from each person
7 dollars for the TVA on each transaction
33 dollars each for income tax on the 100 dollars they received.
and 20 dollars for social security and other charges

So that the passage of the 100 dollars through their village actually drained 360 out of the local economy.

And that is how the global bankruptcy will work.

RE: Who should bail-out Europe?

That would be a good idea except for the fact that we don't have any gold, and we don't have any exports with which to get any gold.

The time to go back to the gold standard was the day after we got off of it.

RE: Who should bail-out Europe?

Most of my guitars work without electricity.
So no problem. I'm all inspired.

RE: Who should bail-out Europe?

That was all a scam. Their debt wasn't canceled at all.
Instead the vulture funds acquired the debt for a song and still pressed the poor countries to pay the original sum (even though they had payed for the loan many times over by due to skyrocketing interest rates and penalties).



RE: Queen's income frozen

Why would you want to rub a bank?
Better to rub a lamp.
Or a genie. (if she resembles Barbara Eden)

RE: Queen's income frozen

But I think they would generate just as much tourism if they were stuffed and put in a museum. And they'd be so much cheaper to maintain. Like Russia did with Lenin.

RE: USA is a "Battleground"

Look again. That mention only concerns one tiny part of one subsection. It would be really misleading to imagine that nothing in the bill will affect US citizens. The Military Commissions Act is pretty clear (by omission) that Americans will be declared enemy combatants. And that means the loss of ALL constitutional rights including life and liberty.

This bill in itself doesn't change much. But the stage is set for some serious tyranny.

RE: USA is a "Battleground"

I already scanned it top to bottom. Reading all the chapter headings and looking for details in sections of interest.

There are indeed signs that bad things are about to happen.
A new war in central Africa for example. And implementation of the Military Commissions Act within the US. Things that people might prefer to miss out on.

RE: USA is a "Battleground"

In my opinion, now would be a good time for Americans to move abroad.

RE: Millionaires don't create jobs, Corporations and Entrepreneurs do

Not as thin as Obama's pretense of good intentions or of competence.

RE: Millionaires don't create jobs, Corporations and Entrepreneurs do

People will always act according to the dynamics of the situation. If the economic climate is such that investing in new companies or new projects that create jobs is profitable, then the investors will do so. On the other hand if investing in such things isn't profitable, people will quite understandably sit on their money. They won't have any "income" so they won't pay any tax.

There's nothing unfair about sitting on your money if taxation is so high that it doesn't pay to make more money.

After all, income tax is only for income. It's not a tax on what you already have. It's a tax on what you make. If you want the rich to pay more, you have to make it worth their while to invest.

RE: Millionaires don't create jobs, Corporations and Entrepreneurs do

Wait a minute now OD,
you claim that:
"Jobs enable entrepreneurs to build corporations which create millionaires."

But that ain't how it works at all.

People working at a job don't often have an opportunity to create a corporation.

Usually entrepreneurs have to quit their job and raise capital to start their venture. And it's very seldom that a corporation will make anyone a millionaire other than top executives, often the entrepreneur who took the risk in the first place or the major investors.

So let's dispense with the claim that jobs make millionaires.
They don't.

But millionaires certainly do make jobs when they create companies.

Also lets dispense with the fiction that millionaires aren't taxed. Their income tax rate is higher than yours. You just think it should be higher still.

But if their tax rate is too high. They are not prone to invest in making more by starting companies. They are more prone to just sitting on their income and living off of their interest. That keeps their income down so they will actually pay less tax.

It is precisely by keeping their tax rates reasonable that they are encouraged to create new companies and new jobs.

If that investment money is confiscated by the government in the form of higher taxes however, it will mostly be consumed by bureaucracy, corruption, and inefficiency. It might produce a few low level jobs but it has no potential at all to strengthen the economy. Only the private sector can do that.

RE: A drone lost ????!!!!!!!!

Oh, my bad.

RE: A drone lost ????!!!!!!!!

The US tries to imply that Iran wouldn't be capable of the sort of reverse engineering it would take to duplicate the technology.
But that's just sour grapes propaganda.

Iran has advanced technology. Especially in missiles and such.
They produce a lot of their own military equipment.

They clearly have the technology to bring down an advanced stealth drone and prevent its supposedly automatic self-destruct.

Way back in the 1970s I knew a lot of Iranians who were studying in the US. They were all very good students and really motivated. And they were all members of the Iranian Students Association which would later become the core of the revolution that ousted the Shah. They were NOT radical Muslims. They were totally secular. But they saw the Ayatollah as the only leader who could possibly unite the country for a revolution.

Personally I think Iran is a pretty good country. Yes it's top leadership is the religious right. That was the only way to get rid of the Shah (the dictator the US imposed by means of a CIA run coup).

Only the Muslim right had enough security to be secure from infiltration by the Shah's secret police. So they traded a US imposed military dictator for a conservative theocratic regime.

But even so. They haven't attacked or invaded anybody at all.
They haven't engineered regime changes in other countries or created mercenary armies to overthrow them. They don't even station aircraft carriers off of the coast or fly stealth drones over countries they want to intimidate.

They just mind their own business, pay their own bills, and develop their own technology. They are more concerned with building their own country than in trying to dominate others.

The US could learn a lot from Iran.
But I don't think it will.

RE: A drone lost ????!!!!!!!!

There aren't any Russians in Iran.

RE: A drone lost ????!!!!!!!!

Well at least he had the good sense not to self destruct as mandated.

RE: A drone lost ????!!!!!!!!

Yeah right. Why would the US be using a high dollar stealth drone to do surveillance over Afghanistan. The US occupies Afghanistan. They could have used a much cheaper predator drone for missions over Afghanistan.

The only reason for using stealth drones is to fly over hostile airspace with effective air defense where normal drones would be shot down.

Apparently this drone ain't nearly as stealthy as its builders claimed it to be.

Just another case of defense contractors charging US taxpayers astronomical sums for systems that don't even work as claimed. Nothing new. You can't expect loyalty from companies who themselves have a vested interest in treachery and war. There is no honor amongst the dishonorable.

RE: Wal-Mart and China.

Oops.

Minor correction.
That map was the rail map associated with cutting US workers out of the transport loop.

This map is the one involving the NAFTA super-highway and Mexican truckers.

RE: Wal-Mart and China.

Not quite enough said yet.

What's been left out is that those ships will soon no longer be coming to California for unloading at all. Instead there is a massive port being created at Lazaro Cardenas Mexico where the ships will be unloaded by Mexican workers and the containers shipped into the US and Canada by Mexican truckers.
More cost effective y'know.
That's what NAFTA and the I35 Super-Corridor are all about. As much as possible American labor is being replaced by cheaper foreign labor to more effectively drain every last drop of value out of the American economy.

RE: Who should bail-out Europe?

War has always been rather negative for most people.
And every generation vows to never do it again.
But it only takes a few years till they start a new war.
Some people profit from wars. And they have a lot of influence.

In big wars there are millions of people with nothing to win personally and a strong probability of getting killed. But still they go. Not because they want to. Not because they rationally think it's a good idea. But because they are told it is their duty and there is someone with a gun forcing them along.

The MAD doctrine is only a deterrent if both sides are actually crazy enough to launch a nuclear war. And there are regular drills to verify that "yes", they are indeed crazy enough to do it.

And now there are those like Brzezinski who speak openly of "acceptable casualty levels" in a "limited nuclear war".

There is no limit to the potential for insanity among the power elite.

RE: Who should bail-out Europe?

You got it.

RE: Who should bail-out Europe?

The Obama/Bernanke candyman explains how to painlessly solve the world economic sitiation.

RE: Who should bail-out Europe?

Yes, I realize that.
Greeks bearing gifts.

But sending more Greeks to Greece wouldn't solve their problems would it?

Better to send a horseful of Trojans.

That would at least slow down their population explosion.

RE: Who should bail-out Europe?

I will grant you that China is building a huge bubble economy and will suffer a crash itself. But they are converting some of their massive reserves into real value. (trains, roads, cities, etc etc ) Better than sitting on paper that is going to lose all its value anyway. If they just sit on their dollars they will lose them. If they invest them into building, even if they lose a lot of value when the crash occurs, at least they will have the things they've built.

It's the only way they can avoid losing everything in the face of US default. I expect they'll keep it up for as long as they can and spend as much as possible building their infrastructure, and then dump their remaining dollars when their own bubble economy starts to burst.

That fits the globalist plan anyway because somehow China has to be brought under globalist control too. Their own national economy has to be sucked into the global economy just as is happening to the West.

In fact China has been living under a globalist-type dictatorial planned economy for decades. They'll probably be running the show under the New World Order.

RE: where are all the bi women

Yeah, but go back a generation and you'll find that Prescott Bush was a nobody until he married into the Walker clan of former Opium traders. And the real seat of the Bush League has always been the Walker's big vacation home in Maine (now owned by Papa Bush).

Kennebunkport is also the summer home of former U.S. President George H. W. Bush, father of former U.S. President George W. Bush. First built by Bush's maternal grandfather George Herbert Walker, it has been a family home ever since, and has been owned by Bush since shortly before becoming Vice President in the 1980s. During his presidency, Bush often invited world leaders, from Margaret Thatcher to Mikhail Gorbachev, to Kennebunkport. In 2007, his son George W. Bush invited Vladimir Putin and Nicolas Sarkozy. The Bush compound is on Walkers Point, called Point Vesuvius prior to the Walker family's acquisition.

So, when discussing Bush evil, I think it's best to trace the dynasty back to its Walker roots.

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