Who should bail-out Europe? (123)
galrads: To prevent a global economic depression, who should bail-out Europe?
Germany wants to control Europeans if they bailout the rest of Europe. Americans have enough problems at home to deal with w/o bailing-out Europe.
Why not forget the Euro and each country in Europe use their own money to pay their debts.
Germany wants to control Europeans if they bailout the rest of Europe. Americans have enough problems at home to deal with w/o bailing-out Europe.
Why not forget the Euro and each country in Europe use their own money to pay their debts.
Not the US......
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to prevent a global economic depression...
is this not a bad thing?
do you think you are immune from the issues of the world?
Hey! who should bail out the U.S.?
you know, to prevent a global world war?
maybe I'm immune too!
is this not a bad thing?
do you think you are immune from the issues of the world?
Hey! who should bail out the U.S.?
you know, to prevent a global world war?
maybe I'm immune too!
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If Americans are loved as much by the "whole" of Europe as we are on CS, I think I'd pass on printing worthless money to help them out. 
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to prevent a global economic depression...
is this not a bad thing? nope, but I don't want to pay to bail out a bunch of slackers living more beyond their means than the U.S. does.... unless the europeans pay us back in two years at 45% interest.
do you think you are immune from the issues of the world? Nope?
Hey! who should bail out the U.S.? Good Question?!
You know, to prevent a global world war? To date, the u.s. hasn't started a world war, but we've come to the aid of our allies in the last two world wars.
maybe I'm immune too![/quote]...
is this not a bad thing? nope, but I don't want to pay to bail out a bunch of slackers living more beyond their means than the U.S. does.... unless the europeans pay us back in two years at 45% interest.
do you think you are immune from the issues of the world? Nope?
Hey! who should bail out the U.S.? Good Question?!
You know, to prevent a global world war? To date, the u.s. hasn't started a world war, but we've come to the aid of our allies in the last two world wars.
maybe I'm immune too![/quote]...
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I hear talk mentioned of China coming to our rescue:
Sweet mother of Jesus, what's the world coming to if a country who can't count its own people, let alone care for them (and yet hold ambitions to join the "space club" and develop nuclear arms) decides to loan the EU money?
I say God bless Germany and let's be glad of their assistance in these circumstances
Sweet mother of Jesus, what's the world coming to if a country who can't count its own people, let alone care for them (and yet hold ambitions to join the "space club" and develop nuclear arms) decides to loan the EU money?
I say God bless Germany and let's be glad of their assistance in these circumstances
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bail outs are only bandaids covering up the failed systems in most countrys .everyone lives beond there income charge it barow more give me give me every one wants to live high on the hog so when you go belly up ya start over. no one bails me out but then again i dont need it. if a country cant keep its finaces in order and it fails its nobodys fault but there own let them sink .the united states owes china and we are stupid and just keep wasting money on aid to this that and the outher we are so bussy spending money putting are noses in everyones bussiness and wasting billions doing it .lets all just let the chips fall were they may and rebuild from there.if we all had to start over wounder who would be the next supperpower .im game anyone else .
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Im sure that all of you know all there is to know about money and debt
but just a short reminder ...
but just a short reminder ...
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Boban1: Im sure that all of you know all there is to know about money and debt
but just a short reminder ...
yeah, it's a crying shame what usa prez woodrow wilson did to us when he put the private banking system in charge of our money in 1913. to add insult to injury the federal income tax here was created to pay down on the interest the private banks charge us to print money for us that we can print ourselves for nothing.but just a short reminder ...
Our founding fathers knew that the private banking system is more dangerous than any standing army.
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galrads: To prevent a global economic depression, who should bail-out Europe?
Germany wants to control Europeans if they bailout the rest of Europe. Americans have enough problems at home to deal with w/o bailing-out Europe.
Why not forget the Euro and each country in Europe use their own money to pay their debts.
as long as germans take over EU ok,they seem to do well w/ money,etc.no goose steps tho,unless needed lol.Germany wants to control Europeans if they bailout the rest of Europe. Americans have enough problems at home to deal with w/o bailing-out Europe.
Why not forget the Euro and each country in Europe use their own money to pay their debts.
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reb56: as long as germans take over EU ok,they seem to do well w/ money,etc.no goose steps tho,unless needed lol.
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Straightdown: P.S I have put all my savings into Gold Bonds and Oz Dollars......I suggest anyone with their life savings in Euros do the same!
Hm, it appears someone else may have read the real book titled, "Wizard of Oz" ?
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galrads: Hm, it appears someone else may have read the real book titled, "Wizard of Oz" ?
Well they have a great economy and standard of living...One of the only countries who did not go into recession in the last few years..I thought they were the safest currency option. And gold is a great safe way to keep your money.
Too risky keeping savings in Euros or currencies connected to it at the moment...Especially with Fuhrer Merkel willing to let it collapse just to get control of Europe!------ This poll is Archived ------
galrads: Well, we can avoid printing more money to bail Europe if France and other countries will agree to be subordinated to germany again.
If Germany bails the rest of Europe, Germany will be able to tell them what age they can retire, what level of health care will be paid for (if any), how may days they can take per year on holiday etc.
I am curious what France is really going to agree to with Germany.
If Germany bails the rest of Europe, Germany will be able to tell them what age they can retire, what level of health care will be paid for (if any), how may days they can take per year on holiday etc.
I am curious what France is really going to agree to with Germany.
We will pay a deep deep cost for printing more worthless dollars. We won't see it for a few years, but we'll see a totally worthless dollar, which in the end, will hurt the most vunerable in America; the elderly and the poor.
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reb56: makes sense,why on commie take over,they shot drug addicts n charged their family,for the bullit,that killed them.
have german backround,they are hardworking,they farmed the mid west,to make this the breadbasket of the world,more germans came to usa,than any other country.italy,etc.------ This poll is Archived ------
Money is changeable, debts and diamonds are forever...
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galrads: yep, probably under Germany. But this time, oddly enough, w/o a shot being fired.
Well they need treaty change to have the control they want. Any change in treat will have to go to a referandum in Ireland because we are a republic. The government has not got the power to OK it without the peoples say so. At this moment in time there is NO WAY the people of Ireland will vote yes to giving Europe more power over our economics. It is Europe that has forced us into the terrible situation we are in!
Germany and France decided to sacrifice Ireland and its economy to save their own banks some hardship!!!!! I hope the Euro fails....It can't happen soon enough for me!
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Straightdown: Well they need treaty change to have the control they want. Any change in treat will have to go to a referandum in Ireland because we are a republic. The government has not got the power to OK it without the peoples say so. At this moment in time there is NO WAY the people of Ireland will vote yes to giving Europe more power over our economics. It is Europe that has forced us into the terrible situation we are in!
Germany and France decided to sacrifice Ireland and its economy to save their own banks some hardship!!!!! I hope the Euro fails....It can't happen soon enough for me!
Germany and France decided to sacrifice Ireland and its economy to save their own banks some hardship!!!!! I hope the Euro fails....It can't happen soon enough for me!
If it's best for Ireland to get out of the EU, why not get out now..and not wait for the ship to sink?
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Damned if we do, damned if we don't.
We're all going to be lackeys of China in the end, our standard of living will be akin to that of the Chinese labourer. Keeping the Euro is just the smoother road towards peasantry.
We're all going to be lackeys of China in the end, our standard of living will be akin to that of the Chinese labourer. Keeping the Euro is just the smoother road towards peasantry.
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TheRedSquirrel86: Damned if we do, damned if we don't.
We're all going to be lackeys of China in the end, our standard of living will be akin to that of the Chinese labourer. Keeping the Euro is just the smoother road towards peasantry.
then why doesn't Great Britain adopt the euro.....We're all going to be lackeys of China in the end, our standard of living will be akin to that of the Chinese labourer. Keeping the Euro is just the smoother road towards peasantry.
ps: I recognize the face, but not the name reds......
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galrads: then why doesn't Great Britain adopt the euro.....
ps: I recognize the face, but not the name reds......
ps: I recognize the face, but not the name reds......
I meant keeping the Euro in existence, doesn't really matter that we use £'s here, we're dependent upon Europe all the same.
And yea, I had my account hacked(don't piss women off)so I had to make a new one.
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There are so many great responses on this thread that it’s difficult to choose a quote. Thank you Germany for helping to bail out Greece and other European Nations. The US economy is dependent on what is happening in Europe. The stock market across the world goes up and down concerning the devaluation of the Euro and Dollar. China and Russia laughs at the western world because they know that we could be slip siding away…
Germany {France} to help bail out Greece
Germany {France} to help bail out Greece
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Straightdown: Well they need treaty change to have the control they want. Any change in treat will have to go to a referandum in Ireland because we are a republic. Germany and France decided to sacrifice Ireland and its economy to save their own banks some hardship!!!!! I hope the Euro fails....It can't happen soon enough for me!
The trouble with all socialist one-pot systems is that once you put everything you have into the pot you can never get it back.
Starting all over with a new currency will mean an initial big loss.
And Germany, France, and Britain will do everything possible to FORCE the smaller countries to stay in the Euro. After all that was the scam all along. Use the Euro to undermine the sovereignty of the nations of Europe. And boy did it work.
I think that there will be a big debate over "states' rights" just as there was in the US back in the 1850s. And the larger countries will tell the smaller countries that they don't have the right to secede.
And they'll use military force to keep them from doing so. Probably after instigating some sort of violence or chaos. That way they can say they're keeping the peace.
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galrads: yep, probably under Germany. But this time, oddly enough, w/o a shot being fired.
Hopefully. But I wouldn't count on it. It'll be under the guise of "peacekeeping" or "anti-terrorism", or some such scam designation, but certainly there will be troops rolling into the any country that tries to defy the EU's dictates.
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RayfromUSA: The trouble with all socialist one-pot systems is that once you put everything you have into the pot you can never get it back.
Starting all over with a new currency will mean an initial big loss.
And Germany, France, and Britain will do everything possible to FORCE the smaller countries to stay in the Euro. After all that was the scam all along. Use the Euro to undermine the sovereignty of the nations of Europe. And boy did it work.
I think that there will be a big debate over "states' rights" just as there was in the US back in the 1850s. And the larger countries will tell the smaller countries that they don't have the right to secede.
And they'll use military force to keep them from doing so. Probably after instigating some sort of violence or chaos. That way they can say they're keeping the peace.
I have been told,that when the Bahamas went from the Pound to the Dollar,the Prices miraculously doubled!Starting all over with a new currency will mean an initial big loss.
And Germany, France, and Britain will do everything possible to FORCE the smaller countries to stay in the Euro. After all that was the scam all along. Use the Euro to undermine the sovereignty of the nations of Europe. And boy did it work.
I think that there will be a big debate over "states' rights" just as there was in the US back in the 1850s. And the larger countries will tell the smaller countries that they don't have the right to secede.
And they'll use military force to keep them from doing so. Probably after instigating some sort of violence or chaos. That way they can say they're keeping the peace.
Actual Prices that is!
A Fish costing $10.- under the Poundsystem went to $20.- under the Dollarsystem!
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Conrad73: I have been told,that when the Bahamas went from the Pound to the Dollar,the Prices miraculously doubled!
Actual Prices that is!
A Fish costing $10.- under the Poundsystem went to $20.- under the Dollarsystem!
Actual Prices that is!
A Fish costing $10.- under the Poundsystem went to $20.- under the Dollarsystem!
Prices here in France doubled for many things within the first year after passing to the Euro. And that's not including the immediate devaluation that occurred at the moment of the change. In the confusion of the change just about everything went up by about 25% (judging the cost in man hours of labor). Then besides that initial jump, everything continued to go up for the next year so that the price doubled. And now they have doubled again.
So instead of slowing down inflation, the Euro accelerated it.
What amazes me is that people still think governments are even trying to do what's right. I guess the truth is just too hard to bear.
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Conrad73: I have been told,that when the Bahamas went from the Pound to the Dollar,the Prices miraculously doubled!
Actual Prices that is!
A Fish costing $10.- under the Poundsystem went to $20.- under the Dollarsystem!
Actual Prices that is!
A Fish costing $10.- under the Poundsystem went to $20.- under the Dollarsystem!
I just loved Ray's comment:
"And Germany, France, and Britain will do everything possible to FORCE the smaller countries to stay in the Euro. After all that was the scam all along. Use the Euro to undermine the sovereignty of the nations of Europe. And boy did it work."
Britain is not a part of the Euro and never has been. So we have no real say in the matter. But, it was a totally false economy allowing the smaller states to borrow way above their normal and boy did they do it.
NOW IT IS PAYBACK TIME ..
Germany and France as the folk who pushed the scheme and let nations join under a false premise are juggling soot trying to hold the system together.
Sadly it will have a drastic effect on ALL COUNTRIES if it fails...
And how many banks will collapse???
As always JMO...
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Who should bail-out Europe?(Vote Below)
Germany wants to control Europeans if they bailout the rest of Europe. Americans have enough problems at home to deal with w/o bailing-out Europe.
Why not forget the Euro and each country in Europe use their own money to pay their debts.