Legal Ramifications to Trump for Malfeasance in COVID-19 Crisis

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I don't know jim.

The federal government is limited like it's supposed to be.

Most hospitals(I've stated this before), are corporate and/or state run. Who's doing the inventories, organization, and planning? It's not on the federal government for that. They're supposed to be in support of if needed.

ALL are at the mercy of the manufacturing, packaging, and shipping processes. If orders are placed, they don't get filled. They're still finding stock piles of things here and there. How did so much become misplaced and/or unaccounted for? Who's doing the records keeping?
Trump doesn't have any stocks, he sold them before he was elected.
what his businesses hold, which are also out of his control, I can't say.
Once again, you are wrong. He has lots of stocks within index funds.
They ARE managed by JP Morgan, while he is president.

I don't know who the big hitters for healthcare are in your state jim

I know Mclaren and Munson started taking over big time in my state starting around 2014 or so.

They seem to have gotten pretty fat. I'm not too impressed with either one so far but I really haven't had to use them enough to make an actual assessment.
That's actually a GREAT point. There are ALSO all the stocks that his companies own.
While those companies are SUPPOSED to be divested, they are controlled by his family,
which lets face it, are actually controlled by Trump himself.
I'm guessing there are more options here in NJ.
But, I like this company, which is available in MI;

OK. He had to sell INDIVIDUAL stocks. But, not index funds, which are essentially mutual funds.
Which is owning many stocks at once.
From the link you posted;

What it actually did was release the hold Saudi Arabia and other OPEC companies had around the globe. Especially the U.S.
I'm sure you are aware that Russia decided not to endorse the plans of opec to reduce oil production in order to raise gas prices around the time of the start of this virus.

Saudi Arabia increased production hoping to drive some of the competition out by out lasting them. That was the original reason for drop in gas prices.

I'm not sure if it's still the same or giving a break during the this virus.
So, you're somewhat suggesting, that all the illnesses & deaths were worth it, since oil prices dropped ??? That's the important part of what it did ??? That's insignificant to the families who lost loved ones
and to the people sick and to the people out of work.
Jim, Nice. I enjoy waking up to clarity braced with humor. bouquet
Apparently, you also like sleeping in. It's almost noon. laugh
c r - early on, many people made mistakes. But, they saw those as mistakes as mistakes long before Trump, as they were disputing Trump's rosy forecast. Why is Trump, the "so-called" leader of the free world, not even mentioned in that video ??
Good points. thumbs up
Jim, you shouldn't dignify his whataboutism. It just clouds the issue. Pelosi was trying to quash the hate/fear Trump was drumming up towards the Chinese by calling it the "Chinese virus" and blaming them. Also, you can't justify the malfeasance and/or poor performance of THE LEADER by pointing at the "underlings" (whom he himself does not recognize as having oversight authority) and saying "They didn't get it right either". That tactic is just diversion and poor reasoning. The two have nothing to do with one another.

As to waking late, I'm narcoleptic (and a nonconvulsive epileptic--partial seizures). I have very peculiar sleep troubles, and I stopped using most pharmaceuticals to manage the problem in 2015 when I was diagnosed and deemed "disabled". I had been taking a lot of meds to manage my sleep cycle so I could work on someone else's schedule: Knocked myself out to sleep, jacked myself up to work. I don't do that to my body any more so there's no telling when I'll be awake or asleep. teddybear
Thanks for clarifying. I hope you will be able to better control your challenges naturally.
My brother-in-law uses medical marijuana vaping to help control his epilepsy.
Jim, me too. Helps me sleep as well.
Cailin, Trump didn't disband any thing.

Some federal agencies were merged and some people resigned. He appointed new people.

The merging cut out some middle people. You would have had the sequence of events for that in the link you deleted too.
For jim, the opec thing was mentioned because I thought it was mentioned he had reason with gains for the oil industry. Reasons for the deregulations and such.


For raph,
those numbers were the current numbers available at the time. I never said any thing about them set in stone. We won't know the full figures until it's done. Even then, it may not be done.
With current information. It's all still comparable and still maybe better than some of the worst from our past.
Sad when people try to make it sound like we're unique when the odds are higher that we have natural selection processes just like the rest of nature.

So far we can fight every thing better, being a developing and adapting species. There's still that possibility the time is coming where all the politics in the world, won't be able to be twisted and turned to what people want it to be. It really will be an almost ultimate killer of man.
No it is not. The death rate in the USA of those testing positive is about 2.6 % so far.
But, that may increase soon, as it peaks. It's more like 50% for those who
need to go on a ventilator. Your attempts to minimize this is dangerous to yourself and others.

The experts indicate that a shut-down is the proper way to ensure that hospitals are not overwhelmed.
This coronavirus has a higher infection rate. The fact that many infected with little or no symptoms actually makes the shut-down MORE necessary. If we knew who was infected, we could just isolate them only.

Yes. And this is predicted to be worse with 100,000 to 240,000 before the year is up WITH the shut-down and a lot more without a shut-down. Already the New York morgues & funeral homes are overwhelmed and it's likely to get worse.
This is gonna be much harder on many more people than even I expected. I'm very, very sad. blues
It is very sad. But, it will likely EVENTUALLY be conquered by vaccinations.
We all need to do everything we can to stay alive until then, and also not infect others.
We also need to better prepare for the next virus.
This includes voting for people who put American's health above $$$.
Many of those predictions are being questioned already.

One of the latest models drops the total death rate to about 1.83%. this was based on gathered data and studies with other factors not accounted for. It even added that it could be substantially lower. Since numbers change all of the time, we wont know much again until another model is produced. Another report suggested a rate of .66% but didn't match the Lancet report any where.

Some results from new york using plasma from virus survivors and malaria drugs is showing positive results already. "..It's a game changer", is the description given by one doctor using the malaria drug treatments.
Draeg,

The reason it's bad already and going to get much worse is because the virus is so contagious and transmitted even my asymptomatic carriers. That meant a huge reservoir of carriers built up before we realized how deadly the virus is for some. That huge reservoir of carriers, and the time lag for shutting down and folks taking safety seriously, meant a huge wave sick people was bound to hit all at once. Because of this, the system being overwhelmed with insufficient PPE and respirators, many more ill die than otherwise would have had this perfect storm of impediments to care not manifested. This disaster has also been amplified into fruition by the gross incompetence and venal positioning to make profit by, and avoid losses, by Trump who turned away test kits offered by the WHO and minimized the danger to avoid damaging the stock market--which was his only selling point for getting re-elected. In the end the overall mortality from the virus may be quite low but, among certain demographics, it's devastating. Erring on the side of minimizing it is just plain rash, arrogant and stupid. Your cavalier attitude, if coupled with cavalier behavior, makes you a threat and a vector of death. You need to get a clue.
I got a couple of numbers backwards. The Lancet model has the total projection at about 1.38%
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