Who is next?

There are about 1000 political prisoners in Russia now. It is more, than there were in late USSR times. That means, that the present putler's regimen is worse.

Kara-Murza
Yashin
Chanysheva
Scochilenko
Pivovarov
Gabyshev
Gorinov
Berkovich

Here's the full list of political prisoners:



Who will be next?
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Doesn't that depend on which horse you are prepared to back.?

Nobody on here has a clue about what Putin has or has not done it's all circumspect,but I'll lay odds on the horse that says he's not on the straight and narrow.handshake
I like Tulefell, don't get me wrong. And she hates me a bit less now than earlier.
What more can I hope for.

With that said... is this hoping for "da resistaance" not only leading to more and not less blood
when it all will most likely end the same: with a devided Ukariane? dunno
Standing up to Putin these days is simply stupid. That is my view.
So what should we all do? Let him walk all over us as he sure as hell won't be happy with just Ukraine.sigh
He will be happy with 18% of Ukraine.
The remaining 82 will be a Nato + Eu member most likely and that will be the deal.
As far as I can predict.

The idea of him going on to the next country is western lieful propaganda.
He ain't that crazy.
So you keep saying ,but are you really sure about that.

This is what the Czech president thinks:-

"Russian President Vladimir Putin, after his expected re-election as head of state, will seek to achieve at least partial goals - full control over the occupied regions, especially Donbas," he says.

At the same time, Pavlo notes that the war in Ukraine will not end quickly, "because neither Russia nor Ukraine can achieve their goals."

"Logically, Ukraine seeks to regain full control over its territory within internationally recognized borders, which should be supported," he says.


Why is no-one else allowed to put themselves forward for election in the next Vote for Presidency in Russia . Makes Putin appear like a despot to be honest .What is he afraid of?
Yes I'm pretty sure he will stop where he is. Odessa will most likely be speared, and Karhiv too. This is just my gut feeling.
How long it will take until this settlement is reaached is up to the west/Kiev coalition.

Yes I know Nato want to "get a stronger negotiation point" before going there- well... let them try- but I think all further attempts will fail also, unless some new crazy weaponry is thrown into the mix. I don't think Nato dare to, and good is that. We don't wanna step too close to a ww3 that might get out of hand. No. Consider todays trenches the new border. More or less.
If history can provide a lesson to learn from, it would be a mistake to accept the word of Putin and think that will be the end of aggression.
Time you read some actual history books on dictators like Pol Pot, Hitler, Kim Jong Un etc etc. They may well open your eyes to the terrifying aspect of Trump being elected President of the USA.
Ok so it's not enough to look at his last brilliant periode in office?
Pol Pot is more of a forseer of what might go down in the USA in 25..aha. Thanks for the input.

You must really think I'm dumb and most other adults here too mister.
Go try your insults on someone else now will you. lips
It could work who knows, and thus bring some much needed joy to your life.
Go ahead, find someone else to bother now..There must be others on here you can target too is there not?
Or am I your favorite?
As long as Johnny Rotten say the only one worth voting for now is Trump than I feel in good company.

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I think you are mistaken about Riz. History will repeat itself if we do not learn from it. The message he is trying to convey is not an insult but a warning if we choose to look the other way.
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Thanks for keeping the debate civil Daphne.
Me I feel that if there is even a slight bit of culturelle revolution ongoing a la Pol pot it's done by the democrats who push certain agendas here and there while Trump stand for freedom, in my view.
Anyhows, speak laters. Night out here at 01:12 gotta go
What insult?
How does Trump stand for freedom when he has stated he will lock up anyone who has opposed him?

Surely you are not that blind?
rolling on the floor laughing you got it BAD !
I ve found E.Shulman .did read a lot of her works .True a very smart and bright woman. Thank you Tul for the tip
I ve also read L. Bikov. Maybe you know him too. Interesting person. Here is a link to the interview with him on the topic of your blog
I think we're through Riz. Wish you the best in life. You can't "open my eyes", I can't open yours. And it's ok. Let's agree to disagree. Your insult was to my intelligence when you suggest I read up on Hitler, Jong Un and Pol Pot to compare that to Trump. That to me is beyond unreasonable.

Good luck in futher debates mister, without my attention for the most part. Maybe a small input now and then but don't you be offended too ok, if I keep it rather short or no comment at all.

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@Tulefell: sorry about the highjack.

So back on topic:

Yes, I understand you concern and one day Russia must soften up if it wanna become a democracy.
If nothing else; their strong man is not 45 anymore..
I'd vote for Kasparov, one of my great chess heros of Russia in modern times.
Interesting article!
Sure hits the Nail on the head!thumbs up
Your link leads to a article about Dmitry Bykov. Yes, I know about him and like him a lot, thanks.

Here's a link to one of Shulman's lecturer, if you are interested. It's about state of mind in Russia for a few months ago:

My point was that when you learn and understand history you can see a commonality between the rise of dictators. Exactly what Trump is doing right now. It was not an insult!

It is your right to love and admire a proven criminal, woman abuser and pathological liar, I however, would prefer a president with integrity, and who is respectful of the entire population.

I too, find it unreasonable that you refuse to look at the whole picture and demand that I use blinkers rather than see exactly what is happening.
There's a site, called kremlin.ru. You can always ask what their guy on top thinks.

Do you really expect that anyone, who knows what huilo thinks, will tell you? If the answer is yes, then you are in acute need of medical help.

I take my information from open sources. And if there anyone, claiming that they have any kind of inside information, is lying. They don't.

But we can follow the events and we can observe the consequences. It's like observing the rings on water without really knowing what caused them.

Example: a survey about opinions and expectations in the general population would be hardly useful during the current conditions of terror: the non-response rate is over 90%. Those, who answer, are either pro-putler or say what they think is safe to say.

So lets look at the rings on the water. Did you notice any crowds, getting out in support of putler during Prigozhin's escapade? Neither did I. Did you noticed people standing in lines in order to sign their support for putler's participation in the coming electional event? Neither did I.

But everybody, who care to follow events in Russia, could noticed lines for Nadezhdin: while everybody knew his questionable biography, his anti-war and pro-political-prisoners-freedom program brought a lot of people together.

You, of some unknown to me reason, expect me to tell you the future. Why wouldn't you to try and do it yourself? How many people will come with flowers and candles to mourn huilo? What's your take?
Thanks for the recommendations for reading...much more helpful and appropriate than Carlson and Nugent... laugh

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https://meduza.io/feature/2024/03/01/den-pamyati-alekseya-navalnogo

It's the Russian (original) version of the paper and the link leads to a place there you can lit a (virtual) candle for Navalny, if you want to.
I've reread my opening post and then the replays. Well... I am glad that people have reacted in one or another way, but you can notice that no one said: there will be no next. People discussing something or other, not so much the political prisoners' fate and when doing so it comes out as discussion a race horse stature; it's chances to win. No one said: there should be no next.

But there should be NO NEXT. Political prisoners should be FREE.
The third day people is bringing flowers to Navalny's grave.

As the poet said:

"They have mercy on martyrs,
pray for them, say they go to heaven.
Not so nice with the living,
but sure, we care for the dead."


The current regimen has openly admitted that it is a sub-human species.

- at least they don't arrest the peaceful protesters.
- at least they don't beat the peaceful protesters.
- at least they don't issue prison time to peaceful protesters.
- at least they don't torture you in prison for a peaceful protest.
- at least they don't kill you in prison for a peaceful protest.
- at least they release the body of a killed peaceful protester to his mother.
- at least they allow to bury the body of a killed peaceful protester.
- at least they don't beat the mourners, bringing flowers to the grave of a killed peaceful protester.

As they say on the maps: Russia, you are here.

When you thought you reached the bottom, putler knocked from under.
The details:

“Learned today. And it shook me. Remember, that at the day of funeral they didn’t close the cemetery at 17.00 as usual, but kept it open until 22.00? The thing is, when at 17.00 they told Ludmila Navalnaya to leave the cemetery, she answered: “No, not going to leave. People is still coming. I’ll wait for everyone, who came to Lesha (Aleksei).” They started to threaten her that they will take her out by force. “Do it”, she said calmly. They didn’t dare. The mother of her son. A bow.”
They started to arrest people, who attended Navalny's grave.
From the last word of the journalist Roman Ivanov, sentenced a few days ago to seven years in prison for “fakes” - that is, for telling the truth about the crimes of the Russian army in Ukraine:
“I don’t want to talk and discuss about journalism, about its problems in Russia, because there is no journalism in Russia anymore. I don’t want to talk about the judicial system, about the court, because there is no judicial system, no justice in Russia either. I don’t want to talk about politics, which doesn’t exist in Russia either. I just want to say about us, about all people, about Russians. To say that we all want to be happy.
Man is designed in such a way that he dreams of his own happiness. Will those who brought this criminal case against me, who persecuted me, who judge me, who protect me, be happy? if I am unhappy, if my family is unhappy? Of course not. We must ask ourselves why we sow grief and misfortune around us, while our country has simply turned into an avalanche of grief and misfortune."

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Thank you for caring!

I do understand when people don't care about events that happened in a faraway land they know nothing about and don't know nothing about. It is normal.

But I don't understand people, who support plundering and humiliation of a nation they don't care about. That's beyond me.

Thank you one again!
Many people worldwide care deeply about the state of affairs in Ukraine, not just regarding Ukraine but the fact Russia decided to make an unprovoked attack on a sovereign nation, these people can see that should Russia succeed, then the many countries around Russia will also be targets for an invasion.

It is imperative that Ukraine is allowed to maintain its sovereignty and stop Russia's highly illegal war, not just for Ukraine but for all Russia's bordering nations.

The world needs to support Ukraine and end this war.
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Kara-Murza is on.. after surviving 2 Novichok poisoning, after sentencing to 25 years for being a journalist, he is now on the "etap": he is being transferred in a special vehicle there a prisoner can only sit in a cell with 1x1 m dimensions. The prisoner part of the vehicle has no heating. You cannot stretch. You cannot stand. You cannot lay. You sit. For days. Or weeks. Or months.

Have I mentioned that it has no heating?

I hope, the Western denazificators are happy.

And I'm sure the local talent has a funny joke about it.
Well done for keeping the issue in the public mind.
so he is the next...only for telling the truth ..crying crying
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