Who is next?
There are about 1000 political prisoners in Russia now. It is more, than there were in late USSR times. That means, that the present putler's regimen is worse.Kara-Murza
Yashin
Chanysheva
Scochilenko
Pivovarov
Gabyshev
Gorinov
Berkovich
Here's the full list of political prisoners:
Who will be next?
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That is what I would do if I was anywhere near Russian politics. Go and speak to Putin and together start chisel out a political future. I mean even he will not live for ever and must have an interest in creating something here that will not be immediatly devoured by DC hangarounds soons as he's put in a nursing home. What are they doing that make Putin so upset by the way? Must be the way they do it init.
That shgould be Tuckers next mission, to try get some clearity what Putin think about the political future of Russia.
Do you know?
Just do not forget to discuss this with your brothers and sitters. Time to build another Liberal orden? No way ... Too late. Your time is OVER. Russian people will not let you do it again.
And why do you care?
You left the country, no need to bother.
Every country has political prisoners, you do realise this, don't you?
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Do you know?
No. I do not know what they tell him. I am though sure, no one of them can make any decision without putler's consent.
The other month they wheeled out putler's older daughter with a 2-hours long interview about nothing. There are analysts, who say huilo is preparing a heir - in this case heiress - to transfer the power to.
Re Navalny: The order to kill him was issued a long time ago, we know that. It was waiting for a sign. The sing was made.
How's your Azov hard-on, by the way? Still on?
No. I do not know what they tell him. I am though sure, no one of them can make any decision without putler's consent.
The other month they wheeled out putler's older daughter with a 2-hours long interview about nothing. There are analysts, who say huilo is preparing a heir - in this case heiress - to transfer the power to.
Re Navalny: The order to kill him was issued a long time ago, we know that. It was waiting for a sign. The sing was made.
How's your Azov hard-on, by the way? Still on?
It's more about how much of ukrainian golden fields will be milked by outsiders from the west that concerns me now. Azov is a bit passe I think, they snuk into the ordinary army and Washington think it's bad for publicity so no, they will never again be as powerful as back in 2014.
And when the West will ask Putin what kind of crap this is, he will shrug his shoulders and answer: some kind of Ukrainian-Russian-Bandera mercenaries. They didn’t fight enough in Ukraine and now they’re coming to you. You do not like? Well then stop supporting Ukraine
We are working in the background as we know that if Ukraine falls, then Europe will be destroyed by Putin, Poland is already building defences for a foreseeable attack by Russia.
Ignore the paid propaganda that is posted on CS, it is just hot air and misinformation spread by the same people who have been spreading lies for years here on the blogs.
She is not alone.
If we only discuss our thoughts with people of the same opinions we are never challenged and cannot progress.
By dismissing and undermining the ' slightly interested minority' as irrelevant, you are not only discriminating against that group (along with the other groups you have defined), but you are excuding those potential 'allies' who support Tulefell's contributions and an ethical practise movement.
Trying to isolate Tulefell from others by telling her she is unsupported and alone, trying to tell her what she feels, trying to offer yourself as her saviour, reminds me of how an abusive relationship is manipulated into being.
And why do you care?
You left the country, no need to bother.
Every country has political prisoners, you do realise this, don't you?
She is not alone.
If we only discuss our thoughts with people of the same opinions we are never challenged and cannot progress.
By dismissing and undermining the ' slightly interested minority' as irrelevant, you are not only discriminating against that group (along with the other groups you have defined), but you are excuding those potential 'allies' who support Tulefell's contributions and an ethical practise movement.
Trying to isolate Tulefell from others by telling her she is unsupported and alone, trying to tell her what she feels, trying to offer yourself as her saviour, reminds me of how an abusive relationship is manipulated into being.
But I’m glad that my comment caused at least some resonance among those who were concerned.And that Tul is not alone
But I’m glad that my comment caused at least some resonance among those who were concerned.And that Tul is not alone
I'm sorry if I offended you by pointing out how your post looked to me, or what it reminded me of.
Might I point out that you have no idea about people ignoring Tulefell's posts. People may read without commenting, or commenting immediately after reading.
Btw, no one can ask another member to leave this public space.
If someone wishes to analyse one of my comments, I'm big enough and ugly enough to respond as I see fit.
We are working in the background as we know that if Ukraine falls, then Europe will be destroyed by Putin, Poland is already building defences for a foreseeable attack by Russia.
Ignore the paid propaganda that is posted on CS, it is just hot air and misinformation spread by the same people who have been spreading lies for years here on the blogs.
I'm sorry if I offended you by pointing out how your post looked to me, or what it reminded me of.
Might I point out that you have no idea about people ignoring Tulefell's posts. People may read without commenting, or commenting immediately after reading.
Btw, no one can ask another member to leave this public space.
If someone wishes to analyse one of my comments, I'm big enough and ugly enough to respond as I see fit.
This fits with the statement that there was a special lockdown late the evening before. Also the medic in attendance said that there was severe bruising around the area of the heart.
If Schicklgruber and Stalin had a Son!
This fits with the statement that there was a special lockdown late the evening before. Also the medic in attendance said that there was severe bruising around the area of the heart.
We are working in the background as we know that if Ukraine falls, then Europe will be destroyed by Putin, Poland is already building defences for a foreseeable attack by Russia.
Ignore the paid propaganda that is posted on CS, it is just hot air and misinformation spread by the same people who have been spreading lies for years here on the blogs.
Maybe it's better to ask Who's next to take up the Leadership role and Unite the fragmented Opposition.
Could that person be Navalnaya but more importantly can the Opposition be effective solely by a peaceful political means, probably not.
She would need to unite the other activists behind her which will be a challenge.
She also needs to unite the women and mothers of Russia in their cause.
A result was never going to be achieved through Martyrdom. It may not be achieved without gaining the support of the military and that would mean someone like Medvedev, but who would want him.
Navalnaya needs to stay free and she will need protection and funding (from Exiled Oligarchs). I heard Bill Browder speaking and he appeared to dismiss her so I don't know what the general sentiment is towards her, she stayed in the shadows up to this. Browder is trying to get Kara-Murza freed and would back him but Putin obviously knows what he's up to so that's unlikely to work.
Maybe it's better to ask Who's next to take up the Leadership role and Unite the fragmented Opposition.
Could that person be Navalnaya but more importantly can the Opposition be effective solely by a peaceful political means, probably not.
She would need to unite the other activists behind her which will be a challenge.
She also needs to unite the women and mothers of Russia in their cause.
A result was never going to be achieved through Martyrdom. It may not be achieved without gaining the support of the military and that would mean someone like Medvedev, but who would want him.
Navalnaya needs to stay free and she will need protection and funding (from Exiled Oligarchs). I heard Bill Browder speaking and he appeared to dismiss her so I don't know what the general sentiment is towards her, she stayed in the shadows up to this. Browder is trying to get Kara-Murza freed and would back him but Putin obviously knows what he's up to so that's unlikely to work.
Undertiteling in English
What do you think at the present stage Daphne, continue the fight?
Send more weapons and more money perhaps.
Nato troops and air forces is available too.
What do you say.
What do you think at the present stage Daphne, continue the fight?
Send more weapons and more money perhaps.
Nato troops and air forces is available too.
What do you say.
"The ashes of Klaas throb in my chest " (q)
And then, no one here will be able to say that they didn't know :)
We are working in the background as we know that if Ukraine falls, then Europe will be destroyed by Putin, Poland is already building defences for a foreseeable attack by Russia.
Ignore the paid propaganda that is posted on CS, it is just hot air and misinformation spread by the same people who have been spreading lies for years here on the blogs.
Propaganda in general and putler's propaganda in particular has a few aims:
- it atomizes people by giving them lots and lots of different versions of the same events, so at the end of the day you don't know what to think and what is what: "We will never know the whole truth" - kind of.
- it tells the dissenters that they are alone, they are an anomaly, marginal renegades, traitors, mental ills.
- it also gives them, who needs it, a list of simple answers to many very difficult questions.
I fully aware that I cannot compete with all milliards USD, that are spent on putler's propaganda, both in Russia and abroad. Whatever I do, I do it for myself in the first place.
There's a Russian politologist Ekaterina Shulman, a very bright and decent person - it was she, who said: "Now it's an acute civilizational question - do we bury the killed men or do we eat them?", when huilo refused to release Navalny's body to his mother... She also said: "It is important not to join the delirium."
I am not her, I am not as bright, decent and famous, but I'd like to add: "It is also important to speak against the delirium".
Feel free to quote me :)
"The ashes of Klaas throb in my chest " (q)
And then, no one here will be able to say that they didn't know :)
Jokester and Rebel.
Son of Claes The Charcoaler,who was burned at the Stake for Heresy by the Inquisition!
The Inquisition has never stopped!
Jokester and Rebel.
Son of Claes The Charcoaler,who was burned at the Stake for Heresy by the Inquisition!
The Inquisition has never stopped!
I find it extremely appropriate in the context. 70 years of soviet killing of the best people on the territory of Russian empire, a few years of chaos-hyperinflation-banditism-extreme poverty... and then 20+ years of putinism: lies, corruption, more lies, more corruption. One or other killing in between: Politkovskaya, Novodvorskaya, Magnitsky, Nemtsov... then thousand of Ukrainians and now Navalny.
Your politicians, who are also your representatives, shook hoilo's hand. Will they do it again?
I do feel the ashes of Claes throb in my heart.
Are there other readers out there, particularly those who don't usually post?
Can you post a
He should have stayed out of Russia and organised the Opposition, like Lenin did.
The lesson he didn't learn is to pay attention to set precedents. Hopefully Navalnaya or whoever it is will have the foresight to do the right thing. You can grieve or you can inspire people to do something effective.
Putin doesn't understand emotion, he understands real threat to his domain.
Remember Prigozhin. He started something but even he backed down, that took something big, like Putin taking his family hostage. Who knows.
This is not for the weak or fainthearted.
I find it extremely appropriate in the context. 70 years of soviet killing of the best people on the territory of Russian empire, a few years of chaos-hyperinflation-banditism-extreme poverty... and then 20+ years of putinism: lies, corruption, more lies, more corruption. One or other killing in between: Politkovskaya, Novodvorskaya, Magnitsky, Nemtsov... then thousand of Ukrainians and now Navalny.
Your politicians, who are also your representatives, shook hoilo's hand. Will they do it again?
I do feel the ashes of Claes throb in my heart.
That is what I would do if I was anywhere near Russian politics. Go and speak to Putin and together start chisel out a political future. I mean even he will not live for ever and must have an interest in creating something here that will not be immediatly devoured by DC hangarounds soons as he's put in a nursing home. What are they doing that make Putin so upset by the way? Must be the way they do it init.
That shgould be Tuckers next mission, to try get some clearity what Putin think about the political future of Russia.
Do you know?
"Listen, what's the most horrible experience you can imagine? To me—it's being left, unarmed, in a sealed cell with a drooling beast of prey or a maniac who's had some disease that's eaten his brain out. You'd have nothing then but your voice—your voice and your thought. You'd scream to that creature why it should not touch you, you'd have the most eloquent words, the unanswerable words, you'd become the vessel of the absolute truth. And you'd see living eyes watching you and you'd know that the thing can't hear you, that it can't be reached, not reached, not in any way, yet it's breathing and moving there before you with a purpose of its own. That's horror. Well, that's what's hanging over the world, prowling somewhere through mankind, that same thing, something closed, mindless, utterly wanton, but something with an aim and a cunning of its own."
Steven Mallory, The Fountainhead (Ayn Rand)
That's what it would be like,trying to talk to Vladimir Putin!
Are there other readers out there, particularly those who don't usually post?
Can you post a for Tulefell to let her know she is heard?
I'd like to know how the opposition imagine pulling out of Ukraine but she can't tell.
I would also like to know if the opposition have some plan for the short term future
but I doubt if she can tell.
What I am sure of though is that Tulefell can provide many links,
on here.
Not what I'm after, I wanna hear from the horses mouth cos that is blogging.