why are so many opposed to health care??? ( Archived) (446)

Mar 11, 2009 6:27 PM CST why are so many opposed to health care???
zee1ander
zee1anderzee1anderSomewhere, Kentucky USA52 Threads 4 Polls 1,758 Posts
Indyfella: If I had a child now...there's no way I'd put them in a public "indoctrination" school; govt school.


I fully agree...

zee
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Mar 11, 2009 6:27 PM CST why are so many opposed to health care???
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
pretzelman: neither would I! my children went to private schools....but it was my choice....free (indoctrination) education was available.
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Mar 11, 2009 6:28 PM CST why are so many opposed to health care???
pretzelman: you're comments get more childish along the way...if you can't debate intelligently...-please don't bother

What is childish about wanting a specific starting point? From where are we starting? What exactly is your definition of poor?
Is it too much to ask that you actually give something to debate on? If you have no starting point, no middle and no end, what the hell is there to debate.
Sorry for asking that you be specific on anything!
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Mar 11, 2009 6:29 PM CST why are so many opposed to health care???
zee1ander
zee1anderzee1anderSomewhere, Kentucky USA52 Threads 4 Polls 1,758 Posts
pretzelman: neither would I! my children went to private schools....but it was my choice....free education was available.


So what you are saying is.... what you don't want to pay for should be free?

zee
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Mar 11, 2009 6:32 PM CST why are so many opposed to health care???
pretzelman
pretzelmanpretzelmanLas Vegas, Nevada USA43 Threads 1 Polls 2,956 Posts
zee1ander: So what you are saying is.... what you don't want to pay for should be free?

zee




no I'm saying it's available, whether you choose to access it or not!!thumbs up
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Mar 11, 2009 6:37 PM CST why are so many opposed to health care???
Can I get a refund for the $2,500/year my parents spent for me for private school? Or, how about the $35,000/year for private college for my kid? Oh, I'm sorry, it is my choice to get a better education, not a right!
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Mar 11, 2009 6:37 PM CST why are so many opposed to health care???
zee1ander
zee1anderzee1anderSomewhere, Kentucky USA52 Threads 4 Polls 1,758 Posts
pretzelman: no I'm saying it's available, whether you choose to access it or not!!


It is available... a hospital that uses public funds can not turn a person away who is in need. The hospital will just have to write it off at tax time. Even Illegals can use this options.

zee
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Mar 11, 2009 6:38 PM CST why are so many opposed to health care???
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
toranoga: Can I get a refund for the $2,500/year my parents spent for me for private school? Or, how about the $35,000/year for private college for my kid? Oh, I'm sorry, it is my choice to get a better education, not a right!


Parent's should be able to get a tax credit for their children attending private schools. It saves the government $$$$.
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Mar 11, 2009 6:42 PM CST why are so many opposed to health care???
zee1ander
zee1anderzee1anderSomewhere, Kentucky USA52 Threads 4 Polls 1,758 Posts
I think the federal government should get out of the business and revert the power back to the states, because the federal government has NEVER figured out how not to screw things up.

zee
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Mar 11, 2009 6:44 PM CST why are so many opposed to health care???
pretzelman
pretzelmanpretzelmanLas Vegas, Nevada USA43 Threads 1 Polls 2,956 Posts
zee1ander: It is available... a hospital that uses public funds can not turn a person away who is in need. The hospital will just have to write it off at tax time. Even Illegals can use this options.

zee



that is only for emergency......what about staying healthy and not waiting till it's an emergency? Emergency room car cost a lot more than a visit to a wellness center!!
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Mar 11, 2009 6:44 PM CST why are so many opposed to health care???
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
Indyfella: I'd prefer to give people free food, housing, cars, gas money, vitamins, exercise bikes, etc. That seems like a better deal.


hmmm Well, the fact is that we already have a socialized medical system, Bob. The difference between ours and so-called "universal" healthcare is consistency. Ours is a hopelessly hodgepodge system, and the costs are higher for medical care per capita than most universal systems because of that.

My first recommendation is total FREE MARKET healthcare - and that means radical stuff like eliminating government regulation of all aspects of healthcare. Absent that thoroughgoing kind of reform, I'd suggest universal, because it's logically consistent with our already heavily socialized system and offers economy of scale advantages... head banger
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Mar 11, 2009 6:45 PM CST why are so many opposed to health care???
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
Indyfella: God...that was so eloquent. Now go put on your wig.


Which one, my friend?blushing wave
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Mar 11, 2009 6:47 PM CST why are so many opposed to health care???
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
Ambrose2007: Which one, my friend?


I'm partial to redheads. rolling on the floor laughing
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Mar 11, 2009 6:48 PM CST why are so many opposed to health care???
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
Ambrose2007: Well, the fact is that we already have a socialized medical system, Bob. The difference between ours and so-called "universal" healthcare is consistency. Ours is a hopelessly hodgepodge system, and the costs are higher for medical care per capita than most universal systems because of that.

My first recommendation is total FREE MARKET healthcare - and that means radical stuff like eliminating government regulation of all aspects of healthcare. Absent that thoroughgoing kind of reform, I'd suggest universal, because it's logically consistent with our already heavily socialized system and offers economy of scale advantages...



Economy of scale advantages hasn't worked to well with Social Security.

Just an observation... dunno
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Mar 11, 2009 6:49 PM CST why are so many opposed to health care???
pretzelman
pretzelmanpretzelmanLas Vegas, Nevada USA43 Threads 1 Polls 2,956 Posts
zee1ander: I think the federal government should get out of the business and revert the power back to the states, because the federal government has NEVER figured out how not to screw things up.

zee



no problem with that statement!!thumbs up
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Mar 11, 2009 6:52 PM CST why are so many opposed to health care???
zee1ander
zee1anderzee1anderSomewhere, Kentucky USA52 Threads 4 Polls 1,758 Posts
Indyfella: I'm partial to redheads.


I shivering at the thought of a redhead..... yikes.shock

zee
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Mar 11, 2009 6:53 PM CST why are so many opposed to health care???
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
zee1ander: I shivering at the thought of a redhead..... yikes.

zee


Honestly...I dated several. They were both nuts. rolling on the floor laughing
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Mar 11, 2009 6:53 PM CST why are so many opposed to health care???
Jan1305
Jan1305Jan1305Sunshine and vino, Murcia Spain170 Threads 5,319 Posts
Aneurin Bevan
Creator of the National Health Service
Born:
15 NOV 1897
Died:
06 JUL 1960
Place of Birth:
Tredegar
Famous For:
Creator of the National Health Service

The purpose of getting power is to be able to give it away Aneurin Bevan

Trivia:
The Manic Street Preachers named an album after a Bevan quote -
This Is My Truth, Tell Me Yours.

Biography:
The son of a Tredegar miner, Nye Bevan was a pioneering Labour politician who created the NHS.



Nye Bevan is my hero. There are undoubtedly many ills in the NHS today, but it still provides an incomparable, highly skilled, and free service to all, regardless of wealth or status.

Fortunately here in Spain, I am entitled to receive the same free health services.
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Mar 11, 2009 6:55 PM CST why are so many opposed to health care???
zee1ander
zee1anderzee1anderSomewhere, Kentucky USA52 Threads 4 Polls 1,758 Posts
Indyfella: Honestly...I dated several. They were both nuts.


The last 6 I have date were redheads. I should have stopped at the first, but I thought what could go wrong...rolling on the floor laughing

zee
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Mar 11, 2009 6:55 PM CST why are so many opposed to health care???
I still want to know if I am rich or poor so that I can put myself in the proper class and get in the right line for whatever it is that I am entitled to.
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