Does the smoking ban in public places go against human rights? (62)
Tamarinsomewhere, Lothian, Scotland UK173 Threads 1 Polls 3,267 PostsDo you think it takes away freedom of choice?
Tamarin: Do you think it takes away freedom of choice?
No, I do not.
It has been something that I have been in agreeance with.
Here in Austria, it is not in force, although eating establishments have to provide non smoking areas.
It is not a human right to smoke.
It is a choice.
Tamarin: Do you think it takes away freedom of choice?
I wish you could ask the people who have died of lung cancer through passive smokers about their freedom of choice!
bournemouthbelle: I wish you could ask the people who have died of lung cancer through passive smokers about their freedom of choice!
I would like to see everyone's opinions here....
Jan1305: Gussi are you a ?
Hi Jan - I just got back from a week enforced 'no smoking' indoors which made me cut down a lot....... and I helped chop down over 30 trees on Friday and Saturday (ok, a chain saw did the 'chopping' and I just lopped off the bits from 1.5 metre lengths that will be used as firewood in three years time!) - only one large branch fell on the roof and broke half a dozen tiles; oh well, the tiles were soon replaced and I really enjoyed the physical labour!
I wanted to sing:
'I'm a lumberjack and I'm ok'
but I kept running out of breath! ~cough~ ~cough~
Jan1305: Gussi are you a ?
yes i am a smoker and i am gonna stay that way. done 10 years without cigs and they were murder. I have never smoked in restarants or pubs i always went outside same when i am a guest a someones home i nver smoke in the house always outside. I never smoked in my own home due my eldest son haveing an allergy and i still dont smoke today in my house, always on the balcony.
we humans can adapt to almost anything. It doesnt worry me ,the only thing i hate are non smoking do gooders that have givenup smoking, they are the worst and non adaptable.
I remember when we oculd smoke on flights.
Can you imagine if we lit up on flights now?
People would think we were terrorists.
People do adapt to change, it will be two years 1 July since the ban came in.
There are pubs that have suffered and gone downhill, since the smoking ban, not just because of the ban, but also it is cheaper to get sozzled at home now.
Certainly in the UK.
Can you imagine if we lit up on flights now?
People would think we were terrorists.
People do adapt to change, it will be two years 1 July since the ban came in.
There are pubs that have suffered and gone downhill, since the smoking ban, not just because of the ban, but also it is cheaper to get sozzled at home now.
Certainly in the UK.
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You are totally right Sommer...
But it is nice to get changed and go out for a drink etc...
So as Bodleing said the ideal answer is to have the smoking area/lounge.....
The staff that work there should be asked if they are happy to...
Going on along distance flight with a smoker is a nightmare...Sleeping pills are the answer or a hammer to hit them over the head with when they become irritable...
The one I knew would have pushed to the front of the customs queque, forgot the baggage ....all to get to the front door of the airport to puff....
Sommerauer71: I remember when we oculd smoke on flights.
Can you imagine if we lit up on flights now?
People would think we were terrorists.
People do adapt to change, it will be two years 1 July since the ban came in.
There are pubs that have suffered and gone downhill, since the smoking ban, not just because of the ban, but also it is cheaper to get sozzled at home now.
Certainly in the UK.
Can you imagine if we lit up on flights now?
People would think we were terrorists.
People do adapt to change, it will be two years 1 July since the ban came in.
There are pubs that have suffered and gone downhill, since the smoking ban, not just because of the ban, but also it is cheaper to get sozzled at home now.
Certainly in the UK.
You are totally right Sommer...
But it is nice to get changed and go out for a drink etc...
So as Bodleing said the ideal answer is to have the smoking area/lounge.....
The staff that work there should be asked if they are happy to...
Going on along distance flight with a smoker is a nightmare...Sleeping pills are the answer
or a hammer to hit them over the head with when they become irritable... The one I knew would have pushed to the front of the customs queque, forgot the baggage ....all to get to the front door of the airport to puff....
Tamarin: or
You are totally right Sommer...
But it is nice to get changed and go out for a drink etc...
So as Bodleing said the ideal answer is to have the smoking area/lounge.....
The staff that work there should be asked if they are happy to...
Going on along distance flight with a smoker is a nightmare...Sleeping pills are the answer or a hammer to hit them over the head with when they become irritable...
The one I knew would have pushed to the front of the customs queque, forgot the baggage ....all to get to the front door of the airport to puff....
You are totally right Sommer...
But it is nice to get changed and go out for a drink etc...
So as Bodleing said the ideal answer is to have the smoking area/lounge.....
The staff that work there should be asked if they are happy to...
Going on along distance flight with a smoker is a nightmare...Sleeping pills are the answer or a hammer to hit them over the head with when they become irritable...
The one I knew would have pushed to the front of the customs queque, forgot the baggage ....all to get to the front door of the airport to puff....
See, I like a cigarette with a glass of wine. But if I am on a long haul, then somehow my mind is conditioned to not want a cigarette. So, it never bothers me, same when I am at work.
I feel comfortable in being in areas where there are no smoking rules, I mean who would walk into a school and light a cigarette?
We just would not do it.
I respect the right for people to not have a passive cigarette.
If I am with a group of non smoking people, in a non smoking environment, then I will not smoke, if I am with a crowd of smokers, then I will smoke more.
My own mind is conditioned that way, my father, I can never smoke a cigarette in front of him.
Because I know he hates it. So I don't.
In belgium they do half the pub smoker the other half not,
in netherlands i dont go to pubs anymore I dont enjoy a beer without a sig I think that pub owners should choose if they make their pub a smoker or nonsmoker.
Afterall the smoke you breathin as a passive smoker on the road dosnt exceed the smog you might breathin in some citys.
It is true, on a trainstaition i will go somewhere where there is no ppl to have a smoke but if some one (in a senario where I made sure to have a 15m distance) comes stand by me and tell me to leave cuz he (or she) is nonsmoker then go to hell.
Smoking is not my right its my choice, however i think ppl make for to big a deal of it.
in netherlands i dont go to pubs anymore I dont enjoy a beer without a sig I think that pub owners should choose if they make their pub a smoker or nonsmoker.
Afterall the smoke you breathin as a passive smoker on the road dosnt exceed the smog you might breathin in some citys.
It is true, on a trainstaition i will go somewhere where there is no ppl to have a smoke but if some one (in a senario where I made sure to have a 15m distance) comes stand by me and tell me to leave cuz he (or she) is nonsmoker then go to hell.
Smoking is not my right its my choice, however i think ppl make for to big a deal of it.
I wish you could ask the people who have died of lung cancer through passive smokers about their freedom of choice
bournemouthbelle: I wish you could ask the people who have died of lung cancer through passive smokers about their freedom of choice!
You could ask those who died of lung cancer and who lived far away of any smokers.
Tamarin: Do you think it takes away freedom of choice?
Yes, I do. Just like the EU imposed, some time ago, an interdiction on selling cucumbers shorter than X cm or bent (luckily they abolished this interdiction a short while ago).
expat2be: Yes, I do. Just like the EU imposed, some time ago, an interdiction on selling cucumbers shorter than X cm or bent (luckily they abolished this interdiction a short while ago).
I thought that was for bananas,
gussi: yes i am a smoker and i am gonna stay that way. done 10 years without cigs and they were murder. I have never smoked in restarants or pubs i always went outside same when i am a guest a someones home i nver smoke in the house always outside. I never smoked in my own home due my eldest son haveing an allergy and i still dont smoke today in my house, always on the balcony.
we humans can adapt to almost anything. It doesnt worry me ,the only thing i hate are non smoking do gooders that have givenup smoking, they are the worst and non adaptable.
we humans can adapt to almost anything. It doesnt worry me ,the only thing i hate are non smoking do gooders that have givenup smoking, they are the worst and non adaptable.
You are so right gussi, ex-smokers generally are the worst!
I´m trying hard not to be one of those, in fact it´s not so difficult, almost everybody seems to smoke here in Spain.
bournemouthbelle: I wish you could ask the people who have died of lung cancer through passive smokers about their freedom of choice!
I have no choice either on my bike driving thru traffic breathing all your foul exhaustfumes.
Yes it takes away freedom.It's cool non-smokers have non smokin bars.It's not cool to discriminate smokers and incriminate them for givin others cancer.Should we start saying cardrivers are murderers too?
The government is doing a lot to take freedom away,and 'choice' dont make me laugh most of the people look the same anyway these days.Everybody tried so hard to be an individual they all look alike.Lots of sheep following the shepherd.
Jan1305: I thought that was for bananas,
Oh, bananas too?
I posted this in the Int Forum.
No one came up with any argument against it.
With modern ventilation systems its perfectly
possible to provide smoke free areas, as well
as providing smoking areas in pubs and bars.
There could be 'smoking licenses' available to
landlords or breweries who want to provide their
customers with the choice.
Maybe these premises could be subject to random
air quality tests (paid for by the owners of course.)
If the air isnt smoke free in the designated areas,
the pub loses its smoking license.
Seems simple enough to me.
No one came up with any argument against it.
With modern ventilation systems its perfectly
possible to provide smoke free areas, as well
as providing smoking areas in pubs and bars.
There could be 'smoking licenses' available to
landlords or breweries who want to provide their
customers with the choice.
Maybe these premises could be subject to random
air quality tests (paid for by the owners of course.)
If the air isnt smoke free in the designated areas,
the pub loses its smoking license.
Seems simple enough to me.
Yes it goes against mine...Why should I have to stand outside in the rain and get a mouth full off car fumes while I smoke..
Car fumes do more damage...Ban all cars and leave us smokers alone...
Car fumes do more damage...Ban all cars and leave us smokers alone...
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