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Scubadiva: You can own guns in Germany. You need a permit, but it's more difficult to get one. In Germany, for instance, you have to take a battery of qualifying tests, such as on ballistics, laws, etc.
We would do well to implement those tests, to be honest.
We would do well to implement those tests, to be honest.
Same thing here...
We have a large number of civilian owned guns, but fairly low gun crime rate.
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Sojourner: Oslo, another thing that comes to mind. I live in Vienna; everyone, foreigners and citizens, must register where they live. It is required. In America, this is not done and would be considered an infringement of personal rights and freedom. 'I'll live where I damn well please and don't need to inform the government about it!! Damn it! I'm an American.' However, ironically, one must have one's current address on a driver's license, so if you drive a car, THEY CAN FIND YOU! lol
Do you file taxes? I know you have to report your income even though you live overseas. That means that the US government's arm as to your whereabouts and your financial status is more farreaching than that of European countries.
I don't call that a freedom, but a severe restriction. No country other than the US requires its citizens to report their worldwide income. Think on that one for a moment.
The equivalent of the registration requirements in Europe are called "IRS" and "DMV" in the US.
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It's not specifically the Holocost denial that is illegal in Germany, but actions and incite hatred on a large scale. All countries in the EU, except the Netherlands and Spain have the same thing in their law books. Some refer to the Holocost, some refer to Genocide, France refers to crimes against humanity, etc.
In the US, such laws are against the 1st Amendment guarantee... hence people in the US get away with denying crime against humanity or not acknowledging genocide (i.e. american indians).
In the US, such laws are against the 1st Amendment guarantee... hence people in the US get away with denying crime against humanity or not acknowledging genocide (i.e. american indians).
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This thread is amazing.. some of you are so judgemantal it is unbelievable.....does it really matter if we are proud of our country and love our freedoms.....seems like what a lot says about Obama.....just gotta find fault with the states
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Scubadiva: Do you file taxes? I know you have to report your income even though you live overseas. That means that the US government's arm as to your whereabouts and your financial status is more farreaching than that of European countries.
I don't call that a freedom, but a severe restriction. No country other than the US requires its citizens to report their worldwide income. Think on that one for a moment.
The equivalent of the registration requirements in Europe are called "IRS" and "DMV" in the US.
I don't call that a freedom, but a severe restriction. No country other than the US requires its citizens to report their worldwide income. Think on that one for a moment.
The equivalent of the registration requirements in Europe are called "IRS" and "DMV" in the US.
I think Malta requires the reporting of worldwide income - but only for Maltese citizens!
Hiya scubadiva!
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Scubadiva: It's not specifically the Holocost denial that is illegal in Germany, but actions and incite hatred on a large scale. All countries in the EU, except the Netherlands and Spain have the same thing in their law books. Some refer to the Holocost, some refer to Genocide, France refers to crimes against humanity, etc.
In the US, such laws are against the 1st Amendment guarantee... hence people in the US get away with denying crime against humanity or not acknowledging genocide (i.e. american indians).
This really is the only differance I can see other than gun laws.......and no not everyone walks around "TOTING" a gun looking to shoot our nieaghbors.....In the US, such laws are against the 1st Amendment guarantee... hence people in the US get away with denying crime against humanity or not acknowledging genocide (i.e. american indians).
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Scubadiva: Do you file taxes? I know you have to report your income even though you live overseas. That means that the US government's arm as to your whereabouts and your financial status is more farreaching than that of European countries.
I don't call that a freedom, but a severe restriction. No country other than the US requires its citizens to report their worldwide income. Think on that one for a moment.
The equivalent of the registration requirements in Europe are called "IRS" and "DMV" in the US.
The difference is that if you move house in Vienna, you are required by law to register your new address within 3 days. If I file taxes in the States, that's once a year they have to have my address. As far as I know, there is no similar law in the States about registering your address/place of residence so the government can keep track of people and know, hypothetically, where everyone can be located.I don't call that a freedom, but a severe restriction. No country other than the US requires its citizens to report their worldwide income. Think on that one for a moment.
The equivalent of the registration requirements in Europe are called "IRS" and "DMV" in the US.
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Scubadiva: It's not specifically the Holocost denial that is illegal in Germany, but actions and incite hatred on a large scale. All countries in the EU, except the Netherlands and Spain have the same thing in their law books. Some refer to the Holocost, some refer to Genocide, France refers to crimes against humanity, etc.
In the US, such laws are against the 1st Amendment guarantee... hence people in the US get away with denying crime against humanity or not acknowledging genocide (i.e. american indians).
I believe verbally or in writing denying the Holocaust is illegal in Germany. You are saying this is not true. It goes against what my students (Austrian and German students) have told me.In the US, such laws are against the 1st Amendment guarantee... hence people in the US get away with denying crime against humanity or not acknowledging genocide (i.e. american indians).
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Sojourner: The difference is that if you move house in Vienna, you are required by law to register your new address within 3 days. If I file taxes in the States, that's once a year they have to have my address. As far as I know, there is no similar law in the States about registering your address/place of residence so the government can keep track of people and know, hypothetically, where everyone can be located.
You do not have to file taxes yearly.....but your wise to do so and this is how most do it, only if you make over $4000.00 I beleive
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oh and one more thing.....
i have lived overseas and i have travelled a bit... and one thing i've noticed is that most people i've come across outside of the US dont really have much of a national pride in their country... again this is not all... so dont yall be taking offense now !!!
but truth is rarely have i seen people in other countries stand "at attention" when their national anthem is played... or sing along it .... i've wondered how many people even know the lyrics to their national anthem.... in here pretty much everyone does..... they may not be able to spell their own name, but they can sign the anthem without problems !!!!
i know i've smacked a few of the younger generation upside the head before and told them to stand at attention and take their hats off when the music starts... how many of yall have ever done that? more importantly, how many of yall really care????
i have lived overseas and i have travelled a bit... and one thing i've noticed is that most people i've come across outside of the US dont really have much of a national pride in their country... again this is not all... so dont yall be taking offense now !!!
but truth is rarely have i seen people in other countries stand "at attention" when their national anthem is played... or sing along it .... i've wondered how many people even know the lyrics to their national anthem.... in here pretty much everyone does..... they may not be able to spell their own name, but they can sign the anthem without problems !!!!
i know i've smacked a few of the younger generation upside the head before and told them to stand at attention and take their hats off when the music starts... how many of yall have ever done that? more importantly, how many of yall really care????
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Yes we bloody do care. We just don't always make big song and dance about it ALL the time.
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In too many Countries Governments like to make Citizens believe,that their RIGHTS are not more than Privileges,granted by Government,instead of inherent in the Individual,subject to withdrawal by Majority Vote at any time!
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seekndestroy: oh and one more thing.....i have lived overseas and i have travelled a bit... and one thing i've noticed is that most people i've come across outside of the US dont really have much of a national pride in their country...
This is the exact opposite of what I have found. And let me be clear, I spend all day, every day, five days a week, working closely with people from many countries around the world. Invariably, I find virtually all people to have very deep pride in their country and their culture. That pride may not translate into paying some sort of tribute to the country's flag or singing along with the country's anthem, but pride it is, and very strong indeed.
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SummerUK: Yes we bloody do care. We just don't always make big song and dance about it ALL the time.
Exactly!!
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The US was the first Constitution and Bill Of Rights to spell out the Fact,that RIGHTS belong to the Individual,and are not open to negotiation.
Government does NOT grant Individual Rights,it is merely the Guarantor.
Those Rights exist whether a Government accepts them or not!
Government does NOT grant Individual Rights,it is merely the Guarantor.
Those Rights exist whether a Government accepts them or not!
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SummerUK: Yes we bloody do care. We just don't always make big song and dance about it ALL the time.
well im glad you do woman..... but does everyone else in the IK feel the same? 75%? 50%?
of course im guessing but i'd be willing to say at least 85% in here feel strongly about it !!!!
do young men and women happily volunteer to join the service there???? i know they do here.... we dont have a draft as in many other countries, yet we dont have a shortage of people lining up to serve !!!
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Thats it we are proud of our country ....beside here I can go fishing in the Alantic and then drive for three or for days and go fishing in the Pacific and never leave my country....there are a few others that can do this but not many.....and our country spans six time zones but only five that really count 
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Freedom is so relative it isn't funny. The fact is the United States has more people in prison then anywhere else on Earth. The United States has less than 5 percent of the world's population. But it has almost a quarter of the world's prisoners.
We also have huge numbers of police. Not sure that equals freedom. There are also a huge number of people with guns, don't think that equals freedom for the people who don't have them. 90% of the wealth in America is held by 10% of the population, which equals alot more freedom for that 10%.
We also have huge numbers of police. Not sure that equals freedom. There are also a huge number of people with guns, don't think that equals freedom for the people who don't have them. 90% of the wealth in America is held by 10% of the population, which equals alot more freedom for that 10%.
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Sojourner: This is the exact opposite of what I have found. And let me be clear, I spend all day, every day, five days a week, working closely with people from many countries around the world. Invariably, I find virtually all people to have very deep pride in their country and their culture. That pride may not translate into paying some sort of tribute to the country's flag or singing along with the country's anthem, but pride it is, and very strong indeed.
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You can own guns in Germany. You need a permit, but it's more difficult to get one. In Germany, for instance, you have to take a battery of qualifying tests, such as on ballistics, laws, etc.
We would do well to implement those tests, to be honest.