People of Ireland (548)

Dec 28, 2009 3:16 PM CST People of Ireland
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixparis, Ile-de-France France89 Threads 23 Polls 2,325 Posts
blipper2000: not only do the people of the north not want a united ireland ,the people of the south dont eiter


I'm from the North of Ireland and I want it. So do all of the people who grew up and or still living in my neighbour-hood. I reckon the majority of Derry, Fermanagh, Armagh, Tyrone and Parts of Down, North Antrim......Would like to see a united Ireland too.

Why don't you want a United Ireland? What have you got against Northern Irish ? Is it because the British control it, and therefore in your eye's I'm not Irish???

Why don't you want a United ireland?...Economics????

Why?
Dec 28, 2009 3:26 PM CST People of Ireland
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixparis, Ile-de-France France89 Threads 23 Polls 2,325 Posts
blipper2000: youre completly wrong there whenever theres a poll roughly 80% say they dont want a united ireland
i dont know anyone who does
most people in the south think theyre all mad up there
the final nail in the coffin was when those kids were tryin to get to school and those scumbags were spittin on them,that put northern ireland in a very bad light
do you remember the incident????????it was in belfast about 5 years ago i think


The people who you are refering too (the mad people) were Loyalist's from the Uppper Ardoyne. And they refused to let parents take their kids to school...

Google or youtube 'HOLY CROSS GIRLS'....

What more or less happened was someone put up a flag marking their 'turf'...And a fight broke out. It finished as stand off at Holy Cross Girls School.

As for your comment on not wanting a United Ireland. Why not?
Dec 28, 2009 3:28 PM CST People of Ireland
scriobhneoir
scriobhneoirscriobhneoirCork, Ireland85 Threads 2 Polls 3,276 Posts
blipper2000: youre completly wrong there whenever theres a poll roughly 80% say they dont want a united ireland
i dont know anyone who does
most people in the south think theyre all mad up there
the final nail in the coffin was when those kids were tryin to get to school and those scumbags were spittin on them,that put northern ireland in a very bad light
do you remember the incident????????it was in belfast about 5 years ago i think


Yeah but the 80% of whingers and moaners who say that, won't necessarily go and vote against it in a referendum. Personally I can't ever remember there being a poll like that so not quite sure where you are getting your figures from.

To achieve unity, you would probably need 2 votes. 1 in the 6 counties on the issue of unity and the other in the 26 counties to change our constitution to allow it (possibly articles 2 and 3 are broad enough to allow for it without a referendum, not sure)in the event of the latter, at most and this is being absolutely mindbogglingly generous to the no side, you would have 20% or 30% voting no.

Don't forget, no party would commit political suicide by opposing it, so about the only people you'd have campaigning against it would be the headtheballs in the reform movement.
Dec 28, 2009 3:28 PM CST People of Ireland
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixparis, Ile-de-France France89 Threads 23 Polls 2,325 Posts
woods: What do you need to have run past you? It's perfectly clear.


I know what he said...He's probably spent too much time listening to or read Conor Cruise or Ruth Dudley Edwards......
Dec 28, 2009 3:28 PM CST People of Ireland
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixparis, Ile-de-France France89 Threads 23 Polls 2,325 Posts
woods: What do you need to have run past you? It's perfectly clear.


I know what he said...He's probably spent too much time listening to or read Conor Cruise or Ruth Dudley Edwards......
Dec 28, 2009 3:28 PM CST People of Ireland
blipper2000
blipper2000blipper2000dublin, Dublin Ireland69 Threads 9 Polls 6,900 Posts
Phoenix: I'm from the North of Ireland and I want it. So do all of the people who grew up and or still living in my neighbour-hood. I reckon the majority of Derry, Fermanagh, Armagh, Tyrone and Parts of Down, North Antrim......Would like to see a united Ireland too.

Why don't you want a United Ireland? What have you got against Northern Irish ? Is it because the British control it, and therefore in your eye's I'm not Irish???

Why don't you want a United ireland?...Economics????

Why?
the people in the south dont
theres loads of reasons but the one that worries me most is the proddies bombin dublin
i dont want my kids growin up in fear
just because ulster is on the same island as us doesnt mean it belongs to us
Dec 28, 2009 3:33 PM CST People of Ireland
scriobhneoir
scriobhneoirscriobhneoirCork, Ireland85 Threads 2 Polls 3,276 Posts
blipper2000: the people in the south dont
theres loads of reasons but the one that worries me most is the proddies bombin dublin
i dont want my kids growin up in fear
just because ulster is on the same island as us doesnt mean it belongs to us


You keep saying that, it doesn't make it any more likely. The loyalists would have neither the military capability or the inclination to launch such a campaign.

Oh and they are not 'proddies'.roll eyes
Dec 28, 2009 3:39 PM CST People of Ireland
blipper2000
blipper2000blipper2000dublin, Dublin Ireland69 Threads 9 Polls 6,900 Posts
scriobhneoir: You keep saying that, it doesn't make it any more likely. The loyalists would have neither the military capability or the inclination to launch such a campaign.

Oh and they are not 'proddies'.
ok
im not sayin they would im sayin im afraid they would
nothing is ever certain
im sayin i dont want to take that chance
why would i want to share my country to people who swear allegiance to a foreign soverign??????????????
Dec 28, 2009 3:41 PM CST People of Ireland
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixparis, Ile-de-France France89 Threads 23 Polls 2,325 Posts
blipper2000: the people in the south dont
theres loads of reasons but the one that worries me most is the proddies bombin dublin
i dont want my kids growin up in fear
just because ulster is on the same island as us doesnt mean it belongs to us



That's so stupid (what you've just posted) it's acutally very funny.......

I'll come back here in a few minutes...let me get a beer....

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Dec 28, 2009 3:41 PM CST People of Ireland
scriobhneoir
scriobhneoirscriobhneoirCork, Ireland85 Threads 2 Polls 3,276 Posts
blipper2000:
why would i want to share my country to people who swear allegiance to a foreign soverign??????????????


Erm, well if they voted for unity, they wouldn't!
Dec 28, 2009 4:03 PM CST People of Ireland
blipper2000
blipper2000blipper2000dublin, Dublin Ireland69 Threads 9 Polls 6,900 Posts
scriobhneoir: Erm, well if they voted for unity, they wouldn't!
but when are most protestants gonna do that???????????
Dec 28, 2009 4:14 PM CST People of Ireland
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixparis, Ile-de-France France89 Threads 23 Polls 2,325 Posts
blipper: the people in the south dont
theres loads of reasons but the one that worries me most is the proddies bombin dublin
i dont want my kids growin up in fear


At anytime during the 'troubles' the Loyalist paramilitaries could have bombed Dublin, Cork, Galway.....They didn't. And the could have used the excuse about the Irish Gov. 'helping' members of the Republican Movement wanted in the North of Ireland by not extraditing them to faces charges under a Diplock court.

The biggest bombing (the one that killed the most people during the troubles)...Was in 1974..'Dublin and Monaghan bombings'........Allegedly carried out by Robert John "Robin" Jackson, with the help from MI5 (thats what John Weir said and he was a member of the RUC Special Patrol Group <---they were a murky bunch).

As for not wanting your kids growing up in a climate of fear....I grew up in Belfast during the troubles as did lots of the good folk who post here and I never lived in fear. I knew what bus to take, where to go etc...But I never once experienced fear........Seen a few riots, heard a few gun shots the odd time but never once during the troubles did I ever feel fear....I guess thats down to my parents. They never taught me fear.......



bliper2000: just because ulster is on the same island as us doesnt mean it belongs to us


.........3 off the 9 counties that make up Ulster are in the Irish Repuublic.
Dec 28, 2009 4:52 PM CST People of Ireland
blipper2000
blipper2000blipper2000dublin, Dublin Ireland69 Threads 9 Polls 6,900 Posts
Phoenix: At anytime during the 'troubles' the Loyalist paramilitaries could have bombed Dublin, Cork, Galway.....They didn't. And the could have used the excuse about the Irish Gov. 'helping' members of the Republican Movement wanted in the North of Ireland by not extraditing them to faces charges under a Diplock court.

The biggest bombing (the one that killed the most people during the troubles)...Was in 1974..'Dublin and Monaghan bombings'........Allegedly carried out by Robert John "Robin" Jackson, with the help from MI5 (thats what John Weir said and he was a member of the RUC Special Patrol Group <---they were a murky bunch).

As for not wanting your kids growing up in a climate of fear....I grew up in Belfast during the troubles as did lots of the good folk who post here and I never lived in fear. I knew what bus to take, where to go etc...But I never once experienced fear........Seen a few riots, heard a few gun shots the odd time but never once during the troubles did I ever feel fear....I guess thats down to my parents. They never taught me fear................3 off the 9 counties that make up Ulster are in the Irish Repuublic.
its all relative
i dont want my kids "hearin a few gunshots and seein a few riots"thank you very much
the fact is no more than 10% of people in the south in the last general election voted for a party that wants a united ireland,
its an outdated topic and goal
youve gotta admit it, people dont care anymore as much as we did in the 70s

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Dec 28, 2009 4:53 PM CST People of Ireland
blipper2000
blipper2000blipper2000dublin, Dublin Ireland69 Threads 9 Polls 6,900 Posts
Phoenix: At anytime during the 'troubles' the Loyalist paramilitaries could have bombed Dublin, Cork, Galway.....They didn't. And the could have used the excuse about the Irish Gov. 'helping' members of the Republican Movement wanted in the North of Ireland by not extraditing them to faces charges under a Diplock court.

The biggest bombing (the one that killed the most people during the troubles)...Was in 1974..'Dublin and Monaghan bombings'........Allegedly carried out by Robert John "Robin" Jackson, with the help from MI5 (thats what John Weir said and he was a member of the RUC Special Patrol Group <---they were a murky bunch).

As for not wanting your kids growing up in a climate of fear....I grew up in Belfast during the troubles as did lots of the good folk who post here and I never lived in fear. I knew what bus to take, where to go etc...But I never once experienced fear........Seen a few riots, heard a few gun shots the odd time but never once during the troubles did I ever feel fear....I guess thats down to my parents. They never taught me fear................3 off the 9 counties that make up Ulster are in the Irish Repuublic.
i should have said northern ireland but who caresireland
Dec 28, 2009 4:59 PM CST People of Ireland
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixparis, Ile-de-France France89 Threads 23 Polls 2,325 Posts
blipper2000: i should have said northern ireland but who cares


I do. I care a lot. And so does the President OF Ireland.
Dec 28, 2009 5:01 PM CST People of Ireland
tornado778
tornado778tornado778offaly, Offaly Ireland9 Threads 1,413 Posts
blipper2000: its all relative
i dont want my kids "hearin a few gunshots and seein a few riots"thank you very much
the fact is no more than 10% of people in the south in the last general election voted for a party that wants a united ireland,
its an outdated topic and goal
youve gotta admit it, people dont care anymore as much as we did in the 70s
its not that people dont care,,its because sinn fein/ira turned ulster into a no go area for most people for 30 years,,, and then the prize became to expensive,to many lives lost,,to much destruction,, the place was a mess,who'd want it???
Dec 28, 2009 5:07 PM CST People of Ireland
blipper2000
blipper2000blipper2000dublin, Dublin Ireland69 Threads 9 Polls 6,900 Posts
Phoenix: I do. I care a lot. And so does the President OF Ireland.
so the pres of ireland cares what i say
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Dec 28, 2009 5:08 PM CST People of Ireland
blipper2000
blipper2000blipper2000dublin, Dublin Ireland69 Threads 9 Polls 6,900 Posts
tornado778: its not that people dont care,,its because sinn fein/ira turned ulster into a no go area for most people for 30 years,,, and then the prize became to expensive,to many lives lost,,to much destruction,, the place was a mess,who'd want it???
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Dec 28, 2009 5:26 PM CST People of Ireland
woods
woodswoodsgalway, Galway Ireland5 Threads 531 Posts
What do you mean by saying "Who would want it"?..What the people who live in the North of Ireland are different??? I'm as Irish as the Irish President (we grew up in the same part of Belfast...)

She wants it..........

As for turning 6 counties into a 'No go area'..That was done with a pen....Google ' Irish Partition ' or something. I not going to teach you histroy.

What the Republican Movement in the North done was since partition was react to a situation that was forced upon them.


Not quite, they more than reacted to the discrimination. They tried to terrorise the protestants into a united Ireland against their will

Northern nationalists act like we in the South owe you something, we don't. A united Ireland would be a good thing overall but the IRA have postponed any chance of it happening for generations. The two communities have to learn to live together before there's any chance of a united Ireland, that has begun but there's a long way to go yet.
Dec 28, 2009 5:29 PM CST People of Ireland
HIHOWRU
HIHOWRUHIHOWRUDublin, Ireland57 Posts
woods: What do you mean by saying "Who would want it"?..What the people who live in the North of Ireland are different??? I'm as Irish as the Irish President (we grew up in the same part of Belfast...)

She wants it..........

As for turning 6 counties into a 'No go area'..That was done with a pen....Google ' Irish Partition ' or something. I not going to teach you histroy.

What the Republican Movement in the North done was since partition was react to a situation that was forced upon them.Not quite, they more than reacted to the discrimination. They tried to terrorise the protestants into a united Ireland against their will

Northern nationalists act like we in the South owe you something, we don't. A united Ireland would be a good thing overall but the IRA have postponed any chance of it happening for generations. The two communities have to learn to live together before there's any chance of a united Ireland, that has begun but there's a long way to go yet.


we owe northern nationalists alot after all we sold them out back in 1921
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