People of Ireland (548)

True! I was being a bit provocative because of the language he used towards another contributor.

The point remains though that he -Phoenix- demands his Irishness to be recognised but won't allow his protestant counterparts to have their Britishness, even though they are born in the U.K. They have perhaps a better case to call themselves British than he has to call himself Irish, though both are legitimate.

That is true. Darron Gibson who plays for Manchester United is from Derry but chose to play for the Republic of Ireland instead of Northern Ireland.

Wood's this is the second straight Q I'll ask you...

What nationality is the President of Ireland...????

Actually if you want to be pedantic about it, their claim is less legitimate, because even the UK they swear allegiance to is the "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland", meaning britain and Northern Ireland are separate entities. But yes they have a right to a 'British' identity if they so wish. However, even people like David Ervine acknowledged that they were also Irish.

Who??



My protestant counter parts were born on the Island of Ireland like ourselves...And since partition they ('my protestant counterparts') refused me and 'my catholic counterparts' to call ourselves Irish...

I'm just returning the serve........

Now again....What nationality is the president of Ireland????

Woody why wont you answer a simple Q?

So you are just 'returning the serve' fantastic....... it seems you would treat them as badly as they treated you, as a recipe for disaster you can't get much better than that.

The Pres considers herself Irish, and is Irish, her counterpart across the peace line in north Belfast considers herself British and is British. My point is that nationality is about identity, regardless of where you're born. As pointed out the GFA allows for a choice to be made.

I'm happy at least you know where she come's from....It make's me as Irish as the President. Although (maybe tongue in cheek...benefit of the doubt) you've (aswell as others) have called into question my Irishness...

On your point about me returning the serve...I've lived under a sectarian regime. Have you woody???

Northern Irish protestants are excatly that..Northern Irish, in the same way you are Southern Irish. The common denomonator is Irish...Why don't they (northern Irish protestants) call themselve's....West of the British Isle's protestants....

Simple cause they weren't born in the west of Britian..but in the North of Ireland...Which makes them Northern Irish,( in the same way as some one from Normandy is northern French and not Southern French) who's religion make's them protestant...Not British.....

All they need is to be re-educated. Almost like some people on this thread....

All they need is to be re-educated. Almost like some people on this thread....

First of all it's woods not woody and no I've never denied your Irishness (apart from a transparant bit of provocation when you started to insult people)

So they need to be re-educated do they, and will you build re-education camps for them and make them wear yellow stars on their lapels? Did you ever stop for a minute to think what it would be like being told you need to be re-educated? As I said before it's just like them saying you need to be re-educated to discover your Britishness.