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roseofsharon: I have no idea to what you are referring, and it would seem there are plenty that don't either. So I think its unfair you refer to us "ALL"...
But don't you think you are allowing this to impact upon your life a little disproportionately? Give it the credence that is warranted, which is very little, surely?
Whatever you decide, best of luck to you!
Mornin But don't you think you are allowing this to impact upon your life a little disproportionately? Give it the credence that is warranted, which is very little, surely?
Whatever you decide, best of luck to you!
your right many don't know but it is not quite as the Op has described, can't say more becaue it will stir it all up again.But there really are 2 sides
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morgan5: Mornin your right many don't know but it is not quite as the Op has described, can't say more becaue it will stir it all up again.
But there really are 2 sides
But there really are 2 sides
I susptected as much, its usually the case....
'Marning, Morgan!!
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angelface123: Anyone who has ever wanted to say something else hurtful to me and about my relationship with a certain person SPEAK UP.
The remarks my fomer fiance' & I have gotten finally worked. I could never post anything without a smart aleck remark fron all of you. You hurt us when we announced and made both of us cry. I know it was a bad time for me my mom was in the hospital and (he)was trying to cheer me up by announcing. So GIVE IT A GO,I MAY NOT ANSWER. I KNOW YOU"LL BE HAPPY I"M LEAVING. Good luck and I hate you all too. NEXT VICTIM WAITING FOR U SOMEWHERE !!?x€¢$£s all of you this !
The remarks my fomer fiance' & I have gotten finally worked. I could never post anything without a smart aleck remark fron all of you. You hurt us when we announced and made both of us cry. I know it was a bad time for me my mom was in the hospital and (he)was trying to cheer me up by announcing. So GIVE IT A GO,I MAY NOT ANSWER. I KNOW YOU"LL BE HAPPY I"M LEAVING. Good luck and I hate you all too. NEXT VICTIM WAITING FOR U SOMEWHERE !!?x€¢$£s all of you this !
Explain yourself please- who, what, when, where? Maybe you've been watching too many soaps? bye bye
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angelface123: Anyone who has ever wanted to say something else hurtful to me and about my relationship with a certain person SPEAK UP.
Angel...let me say this to you love.....we do not and did not intend to hurt YOU. If I recall correctly, we advised you, we tried to help you, we wanted to see what happened in the past, even one of his former ladies posted the very same on here. Her post was very brave and very forthright and if that didn't open your eyes to the sort of man that he is...well, I am very sorry for you. It just seems so strange to most on here as to why he kept choosing the 'older' female and the light came on when it was found out that you had land and property - that is the way we thought.
We may be wrong of course..but when he telephoned the lady mentioned earlier, she refused his call...and HE even said that, but what he DIDN'T say was the reason why she refused it...he REVERSED THE CHARGES, wanting HER to pay for it. Does that sound like a man that has, apparantly, wealth over there?
I will also say this to you. Americans are insular in their lives, many have not seen the outside of the USA (some not even outside of their own state)and the people living in Europe KNOW what this particular nationality are about. He might have painted a rosy picture to you and promised you the earth but oppression of the female species IS still there. NOw, I am NOT saying that you will be oppressed, it's more of information for you, yes maybe even a warning.
Many of us, me included, took the view that he was "Green Carding" you. I recall having many debates with him and proving him wrong when he said he had his Green Card in his back pocket because his Uncle was an 'American National' and could claim him and get the Green card, you now know that is false. I cut and pasted the rules from the INS website for to prove that point.
Under the useage of many names, he has posted slanderous, nasty, rude and totally unwarranted comments against the females - which again, shows how he will treat a partner, in my humble opinion.
We have heard of how many emails he has sent to other ladies, even while professing his love to you and it was only due to CS not allowing them to be published could they not be shown for all to see...you in particular.
I recall you mentioning that his family love you like one of their own...but I don't think you'd been to see them, so all you have is the word of this person. I will even doubt if his family can even speak English. My experience with the people of this nation is the the women can't speak English, some are not even allowed to talk in the presence of men. I have seen this first hand and this wasn't in Pakistan, but in England.
No Angel, I personally, have NOTHING against you...I do worry for you though, I am concerned that you are looking at this through rose tinted glasses...we are all concerned of that point and many of us still are concerned.
All I ask of you is to go into this relationship with VERY open eyes and be careful what you sign and what you do with your property. I am NOT saying he is out to scam you or anything like that, but I am asking that you deliberate LONG and HARD before signing papers and gifting your property.
Anyway, I do wish you all the very best...and I mean that from the bottom of my heart.
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Steve5721: Angel...let me say this to you love.....we do not and did not intend to hurt YOU. If I recall correctly, we advised you, we tried to help you, we wanted to see what happened in the past, even one of his former ladies posted the very same on here. Her post was very brave and very forthright and if that didn't open your eyes to the sort of man that he is...well, I am very sorry for you. It just seems so strange to most on here as to why he kept choosing the 'older' female and the light came on when it was found out that you had land and property - that is the way we thought.
We may be wrong of course..but when he telephoned the lady mentioned earlier, she refused his call...and HE even said that, but what he DIDN'T say was the reason why she refused it...he REVERSED THE CHARGES, wanting HER to pay for it. Does that sound like a man that has, apparantly, wealth over there?
I will also say this to you. Americans are insular in their lives, many have not seen the outside of the USA (some not even outside of their own state)and the people living in Europe KNOW what this particular nationality are about. He might have painted a rosy picture to you and promised you the earth but oppression of the female species IS still there. NOw, I am NOT saying that you will be oppressed, it's more of information for you, yes maybe even a warning.
Many of us, me included, took the view that he was "Green Carding" you. I recall having many debates with him and proving him wrong when he said he had his Green Card in his back pocket because his Uncle was an 'American National' and could claim him and get the Green card, you now know that is false. I cut and pasted the rules from the INS website for to prove that point.
Under the useage of many names, he has posted slanderous, nasty, rude and totally unwarranted comments against the females - which again, shows how he will treat a partner, in my humble opinion.
We have heard of how many emails he has sent to other ladies, even while professing his love to you and it was only due to CS not allowing them to be published could they not be shown for all to see...you in particular.
I recall you mentioning that his family love you like one of their own...but I don't think you'd been to see them, so all you have is the word of this person. I will even doubt if his family can even speak English. My experience with the people of this nation is the the women can't speak English, some are not even allowed to talk in the presence of men. I have seen this first hand and this wasn't in Pakistan, but in England.
No Angel, I personally, have NOTHING against you...I do worry for you though, I am concerned that you are looking at this through rose tinted glasses...we are all concerned of that point and many of us still are concerned.
All I ask of you is to go into this relationship with VERY open eyes and be careful what you sign and what you do with your property. I am NOT saying he is out to scam you or anything like that, but I am asking that you deliberate LONG and HARD before signing papers and gifting your property.
Anyway, I do wish you all the very best...and I mean that from the bottom of my heart.
We may be wrong of course..but when he telephoned the lady mentioned earlier, she refused his call...and HE even said that, but what he DIDN'T say was the reason why she refused it...he REVERSED THE CHARGES, wanting HER to pay for it. Does that sound like a man that has, apparantly, wealth over there?
I will also say this to you. Americans are insular in their lives, many have not seen the outside of the USA (some not even outside of their own state)and the people living in Europe KNOW what this particular nationality are about. He might have painted a rosy picture to you and promised you the earth but oppression of the female species IS still there. NOw, I am NOT saying that you will be oppressed, it's more of information for you, yes maybe even a warning.
Many of us, me included, took the view that he was "Green Carding" you. I recall having many debates with him and proving him wrong when he said he had his Green Card in his back pocket because his Uncle was an 'American National' and could claim him and get the Green card, you now know that is false. I cut and pasted the rules from the INS website for to prove that point.
Under the useage of many names, he has posted slanderous, nasty, rude and totally unwarranted comments against the females - which again, shows how he will treat a partner, in my humble opinion.
We have heard of how many emails he has sent to other ladies, even while professing his love to you and it was only due to CS not allowing them to be published could they not be shown for all to see...you in particular.
I recall you mentioning that his family love you like one of their own...but I don't think you'd been to see them, so all you have is the word of this person. I will even doubt if his family can even speak English. My experience with the people of this nation is the the women can't speak English, some are not even allowed to talk in the presence of men. I have seen this first hand and this wasn't in Pakistan, but in England.
No Angel, I personally, have NOTHING against you...I do worry for you though, I am concerned that you are looking at this through rose tinted glasses...we are all concerned of that point and many of us still are concerned.
All I ask of you is to go into this relationship with VERY open eyes and be careful what you sign and what you do with your property. I am NOT saying he is out to scam you or anything like that, but I am asking that you deliberate LONG and HARD before signing papers and gifting your property.
Anyway, I do wish you all the very best...and I mean that from the bottom of my heart.
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Steve5721: Angel...let me say this to you love.....we do not and did not intend to hurt YOU. If I recall correctly, we advised you, we tried to help you, we wanted to see what happened in the past, even one of his former ladies posted the very same on here. Her post was very brave and very forthright and if that didn't open your eyes to the sort of man that he is...well, I am very sorry for you. It just seems so strange to most on here as to why he kept choosing the 'older' female and the light came on when it was found out that you had land and property - that is the way we thought.
We may be wrong of course..but when he telephoned the lady mentioned earlier, she refused his call...and HE even said that, but what he DIDN'T say was the reason why she refused it...he REVERSED THE CHARGES, wanting HER to pay for it. Does that sound like a man that has, apparantly, wealth over there?
I will also say this to you. Americans are insular in their lives, many have not seen the outside of the USA (some not even outside of their own state)and the people living in Europe KNOW what this particular nationality are about. He might have painted a rosy picture to you and promised you the earth but oppression of the female species IS still there. NOw, I am NOT saying that you will be oppressed, it's more of information for you, yes maybe even a warning.
Many of us, me included, took the view that he was "Green Carding" you. I recall having many debates with him and proving him wrong when he said he had his Green Card in his back pocket because his Uncle was an 'American National' and could claim him and get the Green card, you now know that is false. I cut and pasted the rules from the INS website for to prove that point.
Under the useage of many names, he has posted slanderous, nasty, rude and totally unwarranted comments against the females - which again, shows how he will treat a partner, in my humble opinion.
We have heard of how many emails he has sent to other ladies, even while professing his love to you and it was only due to CS not allowing them to be published could they not be shown for all to see...you in particular.
I recall you mentioning that his family love you like one of their own...but I don't think you'd been to see them, so all you have is the word of this person. I will even doubt if his family can even speak English. My experience with the people of this nation is the the women can't speak English, some are not even allowed to talk in the presence of men. I have seen this first hand and this wasn't in Pakistan, but in England.
No Angel, I personally, have NOTHING against you...I do worry for you though, I am concerned that you are looking at this through rose tinted glasses...we are all concerned of that point and many of us still are concerned.
All I ask of you is to go into this relationship with VERY open eyes and be careful what you sign and what you do with your property. I am NOT saying he is out to scam you or anything like that, but I am asking that you deliberate LONG and HARD before signing papers and gifting your property.
Anyway, I do wish you all the very best...and I mean that from the bottom of my heart.
Never seen you this serious before kiddo, well said. We may be wrong of course..but when he telephoned the lady mentioned earlier, she refused his call...and HE even said that, but what he DIDN'T say was the reason why she refused it...he REVERSED THE CHARGES, wanting HER to pay for it. Does that sound like a man that has, apparantly, wealth over there?
I will also say this to you. Americans are insular in their lives, many have not seen the outside of the USA (some not even outside of their own state)and the people living in Europe KNOW what this particular nationality are about. He might have painted a rosy picture to you and promised you the earth but oppression of the female species IS still there. NOw, I am NOT saying that you will be oppressed, it's more of information for you, yes maybe even a warning.
Many of us, me included, took the view that he was "Green Carding" you. I recall having many debates with him and proving him wrong when he said he had his Green Card in his back pocket because his Uncle was an 'American National' and could claim him and get the Green card, you now know that is false. I cut and pasted the rules from the INS website for to prove that point.
Under the useage of many names, he has posted slanderous, nasty, rude and totally unwarranted comments against the females - which again, shows how he will treat a partner, in my humble opinion.
We have heard of how many emails he has sent to other ladies, even while professing his love to you and it was only due to CS not allowing them to be published could they not be shown for all to see...you in particular.
I recall you mentioning that his family love you like one of their own...but I don't think you'd been to see them, so all you have is the word of this person. I will even doubt if his family can even speak English. My experience with the people of this nation is the the women can't speak English, some are not even allowed to talk in the presence of men. I have seen this first hand and this wasn't in Pakistan, but in England.
No Angel, I personally, have NOTHING against you...I do worry for you though, I am concerned that you are looking at this through rose tinted glasses...we are all concerned of that point and many of us still are concerned.
All I ask of you is to go into this relationship with VERY open eyes and be careful what you sign and what you do with your property. I am NOT saying he is out to scam you or anything like that, but I am asking that you deliberate LONG and HARD before signing papers and gifting your property.
Anyway, I do wish you all the very best...and I mean that from the bottom of my heart.
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I agree with every word that Steve said here, and would add that unless you have chosen, of your own volition , to leave this site, then no one has said one word to you that would indicate that they want you to go. All have tried to enlighten you and put you wise, but there has been no negativity towards you.
Now your Pakistani friend is a different matter. If he is pressuring you to leave because he knows he should not be here, and, if justice were served, be banned yet again, then that is entirely different, and more cause for concern for those who care about you, (and people here DO care about you, make no mistake about that!).
You are entitled, at the end of the day to do as you want. It is very much your life, but it is difficult to sit here and not warn you of things that you apparantly can't, or choose not to, see for yourself, because maybe you are too close to the situation.
Just, please, dont defend his vindictiveness towards women. Some of us know differently first-hand.
Now your Pakistani friend is a different matter. If he is pressuring you to leave because he knows he should not be here, and, if justice were served, be banned yet again, then that is entirely different, and more cause for concern for those who care about you, (and people here DO care about you, make no mistake about that!).
You are entitled, at the end of the day to do as you want. It is very much your life, but it is difficult to sit here and not warn you of things that you apparantly can't, or choose not to, see for yourself, because maybe you are too close to the situation.
Just, please, dont defend his vindictiveness towards women. Some of us know differently first-hand.
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Steve5721: Angel...let me say this to you love.....we do not and did not intend to hurt YOU. If I recall correctly, we advised you, we tried to help you, we wanted to see what happened in the past, even one of his former ladies posted the very same on here. Her post was very brave and very forthright and if that didn't open your eyes to the sort of man that he is...well, I am very sorry for you. It just seems so strange to most on here as to why he kept choosing the 'older' female and the light came on when it was found out that you had land and property - that is the way we thought.
We may be wrong of course..but when he telephoned the lady mentioned earlier, she refused his call...and HE even said that, but what he DIDN'T say was the reason why she refused it...he REVERSED THE CHARGES, wanting HER to pay for it. Does that sound like a man that has, apparantly, wealth over there?
I will also say this to you. Americans are insular in their lives, many have not seen the outside of the USA (some not even outside of their own state)and the people living in Europe KNOW what this particular nationality are about. He might have painted a rosy picture to you and promised you the earth but oppression of the female species IS still there. NOw, I am NOT saying that you will be oppressed, it's more of information for you, yes maybe even a warning.
Many of us, me included, took the view that he was "Green Carding" you. I recall having many debates with him and proving him wrong when he said he had his Green Card in his back pocket because his Uncle was an 'American National' and could claim him and get the Green card, you now know that is false. I cut and pasted the rules from the INS website for to prove that point.
Under the useage of many names, he has posted slanderous, nasty, rude and totally unwarranted comments against the females - which again, shows how he will treat a partner, in my humble opinion.
We have heard of how many emails he has sent to other ladies, even while professing his love to you and it was only due to CS not allowing them to be published could they not be shown for all to see...you in particular.
I recall you mentioning that his family love you like one of their own...but I don't think you'd been to see them, so all you have is the word of this person. I will even doubt if his family can even speak English. My experience with the people of this nation is the the women can't speak English, some are not even allowed to talk in the presence of men. I have seen this first hand and this wasn't in Pakistan, but in England.
No Angel, I personally, have NOTHING against you...I do worry for you though, I am concerned that you are looking at this through rose tinted glasses...we are all concerned of that point and many of us still are concerned.
All I ask of you is to go into this relationship with VERY open eyes and be careful what you sign and what you do with your property. I am NOT saying he is out to scam you or anything like that, but I am asking that you deliberate LONG and HARD before signing papers and gifting your property.
Anyway, I do wish you all the very best...and I mean that from the bottom of my heart.
Something very similiar happened to me, but he didn't want a green card, but to get money to make his and his families life easier and get a business out of it .We may be wrong of course..but when he telephoned the lady mentioned earlier, she refused his call...and HE even said that, but what he DIDN'T say was the reason why she refused it...he REVERSED THE CHARGES, wanting HER to pay for it. Does that sound like a man that has, apparantly, wealth over there?
I will also say this to you. Americans are insular in their lives, many have not seen the outside of the USA (some not even outside of their own state)and the people living in Europe KNOW what this particular nationality are about. He might have painted a rosy picture to you and promised you the earth but oppression of the female species IS still there. NOw, I am NOT saying that you will be oppressed, it's more of information for you, yes maybe even a warning.
Many of us, me included, took the view that he was "Green Carding" you. I recall having many debates with him and proving him wrong when he said he had his Green Card in his back pocket because his Uncle was an 'American National' and could claim him and get the Green card, you now know that is false. I cut and pasted the rules from the INS website for to prove that point.
Under the useage of many names, he has posted slanderous, nasty, rude and totally unwarranted comments against the females - which again, shows how he will treat a partner, in my humble opinion.
We have heard of how many emails he has sent to other ladies, even while professing his love to you and it was only due to CS not allowing them to be published could they not be shown for all to see...you in particular.
I recall you mentioning that his family love you like one of their own...but I don't think you'd been to see them, so all you have is the word of this person. I will even doubt if his family can even speak English. My experience with the people of this nation is the the women can't speak English, some are not even allowed to talk in the presence of men. I have seen this first hand and this wasn't in Pakistan, but in England.
No Angel, I personally, have NOTHING against you...I do worry for you though, I am concerned that you are looking at this through rose tinted glasses...we are all concerned of that point and many of us still are concerned.
All I ask of you is to go into this relationship with VERY open eyes and be careful what you sign and what you do with your property. I am NOT saying he is out to scam you or anything like that, but I am asking that you deliberate LONG and HARD before signing papers and gifting your property.
Anyway, I do wish you all the very best...and I mean that from the bottom of my heart.
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patmac: Never seen you this serious before kiddo, well said.
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Steve5721: thanks mate, I can be very serious at times, especially when warranted.
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Steve5721: Angel...let me say this to you love.....we do not and did not intend to hurt YOU. If I recall correctly, we advised you, we tried to help you, we wanted to see what happened in the past, even one of his former ladies posted the very same on here. Her post was very brave and very forthright and if that didn't open your eyes to the sort of man that he is...well, I am very sorry for you. It just seems so strange to most on here as to why he kept choosing the 'older' female and the light came on when it was found out that you had land and property - that is the way we thought.
We may be wrong of course..but when he telephoned the lady mentioned earlier, she refused his call...and HE even said that, but what he DIDN'T say was the reason why she refused it...he REVERSED THE CHARGES, wanting HER to pay for it. Does that sound like a man that has, apparantly, wealth over there?
I will also say this to you. Americans are insular in their lives, many have not seen the outside of the USA (some not even outside of their own state)and the people living in Europe KNOW what this particular nationality are about. He might have painted a rosy picture to you and promised you the earth but oppression of the female species IS still there. NOw, I am NOT saying that you will be oppressed, it's more of information for you, yes maybe even a warning.
Many of us, me included, took the view that he was "Green Carding" you. I recall having many debates with him and proving him wrong when he said he had his Green Card in his back pocket because his Uncle was an 'American National' and could claim him and get the Green card, you now know that is false. I cut and pasted the rules from the INS website for to prove that point.
Under the useage of many names, he has posted slanderous, nasty, rude and totally unwarranted comments against the females - which again, shows how he will treat a partner, in my humble opinion.
We have heard of how many emails he has sent to other ladies, even while professing his love to you and it was only due to CS not allowing them to be published could they not be shown for all to see...you in particular.
I recall you mentioning that his family love you like one of their own...but I don't think you'd been to see them, so all you have is the word of this person. I will even doubt if his family can even speak English. My experience with the people of this nation is the the women can't speak English, some are not even allowed to talk in the presence of men. I have seen this first hand and this wasn't in Pakistan, but in England.
No Angel, I personally, have NOTHING against you...I do worry for you though, I am concerned that you are looking at this through rose tinted glasses...we are all concerned of that point and many of us still are concerned.
All I ask of you is to go into this relationship with VERY open eyes and be careful what you sign and what you do with your property. I am NOT saying he is out to scam you or anything like that, but I am asking that you deliberate LONG and HARD before signing papers and gifting your property.
Anyway, I do wish you all the very best...and I mean that from the bottom of my heart.
We may be wrong of course..but when he telephoned the lady mentioned earlier, she refused his call...and HE even said that, but what he DIDN'T say was the reason why she refused it...he REVERSED THE CHARGES, wanting HER to pay for it. Does that sound like a man that has, apparantly, wealth over there?
I will also say this to you. Americans are insular in their lives, many have not seen the outside of the USA (some not even outside of their own state)and the people living in Europe KNOW what this particular nationality are about. He might have painted a rosy picture to you and promised you the earth but oppression of the female species IS still there. NOw, I am NOT saying that you will be oppressed, it's more of information for you, yes maybe even a warning.
Many of us, me included, took the view that he was "Green Carding" you. I recall having many debates with him and proving him wrong when he said he had his Green Card in his back pocket because his Uncle was an 'American National' and could claim him and get the Green card, you now know that is false. I cut and pasted the rules from the INS website for to prove that point.
Under the useage of many names, he has posted slanderous, nasty, rude and totally unwarranted comments against the females - which again, shows how he will treat a partner, in my humble opinion.
We have heard of how many emails he has sent to other ladies, even while professing his love to you and it was only due to CS not allowing them to be published could they not be shown for all to see...you in particular.
I recall you mentioning that his family love you like one of their own...but I don't think you'd been to see them, so all you have is the word of this person. I will even doubt if his family can even speak English. My experience with the people of this nation is the the women can't speak English, some are not even allowed to talk in the presence of men. I have seen this first hand and this wasn't in Pakistan, but in England.
No Angel, I personally, have NOTHING against you...I do worry for you though, I am concerned that you are looking at this through rose tinted glasses...we are all concerned of that point and many of us still are concerned.
All I ask of you is to go into this relationship with VERY open eyes and be careful what you sign and what you do with your property. I am NOT saying he is out to scam you or anything like that, but I am asking that you deliberate LONG and HARD before signing papers and gifting your property.
Anyway, I do wish you all the very best...and I mean that from the bottom of my heart.
Above and beyond the call of duty.
Fair play to ya Steve.
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He has put on several different faces on this site (new profiles, pretending to be someone he is not). Perhaps he does that with women as well, not blinking in a lie. 
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Did anyone not notice (Steve?) that the OP wrote "former" fiance? Perhaps they broke up and blame CS?
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calmheartseeks: Did anyone not notice (Steve?) that the OP wrote "former" fiance? Perhaps they broke up and blame CS?
I must admit that yes, I did see that but after I made my long post and I didnd't want to make another one so soon afterwards!
However, if they have broken up and blame CS then that tells anyone with a modicum of commonsense that the so called 'love' couldn't have been very strong.
Personally, if they have broken up then I am happy for Angel, it could save her a lot of heartache later.
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angelface123:
The remarks my fomer fiance' & I have gotten finally worked.
The remarks my fomer fiance' & I have gotten finally worked.
Yes, it sure reads as if they have split up.
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Steve5721: Angel...let me say this to you love.....we do not and did not intend to hurt YOU. If I recall correctly, we advised you, we tried to help you, we wanted to see what happened in the past, even one of his former ladies posted the very same on here. Her post was very brave and very forthright and if that didn't open your eyes to the sort of man that he is...well, I am very sorry for you. It just seems so strange to most on here as to why he kept choosing the 'older' female and the light came on when it was found out that you had land and property - that is the way we thought.
We may be wrong of course..but when he telephoned the lady mentioned earlier, she refused his call...and HE even said that, but what he DIDN'T say was the reason why she refused it...he REVERSED THE CHARGES, wanting HER to pay for it. Does that sound like a man that has, apparantly, wealth over there?
I will also say this to you. Americans are insular in their lives, many have not seen the outside of the USA (some not even outside of their own state)and the people living in Europe KNOW what this particular nationality are about. He might have painted a rosy picture to you and promised you the earth but oppression of the female species IS still there. NOw, I am NOT saying that you will be oppressed, it's more of information for you, yes maybe even a warning.
Many of us, me included, took the view that he was "Green Carding" you. I recall having many debates with him and proving him wrong when he said he had his Green Card in his back pocket because his Uncle was an 'American National' and could claim him and get the Green card, you now know that is false. I cut and pasted the rules from the INS website for to prove that point.
Under the useage of many names, he has posted slanderous, nasty, rude and totally unwarranted comments against the females - which again, shows how he will treat a partner, in my humble opinion.
We have heard of how many emails he has sent to other ladies, even while professing his love to you and it was only due to CS not allowing them to be published could they not be shown for all to see...you in particular.
I recall you mentioning that his family love you like one of their own...but I don't think you'd been to see them, so all you have is the word of this person. I will even doubt if his family can even speak English. My experience with the people of this nation is the the women can't speak English, some are not even allowed to talk in the presence of men. I have seen this first hand and this wasn't in Pakistan, but in England.
No Angel, I personally, have NOTHING against you...I do worry for you though, I am concerned that you are looking at this through rose tinted glasses...we are all concerned of that point and many of us still are concerned.
All I ask of you is to go into this relationship with VERY open eyes and be careful what you sign and what you do with your property. I am NOT saying he is out to scam you or anything like that, but I am asking that you deliberate LONG and HARD before signing papers and gifting your property.
Anyway, I do wish you all the very best...and I mean that from the bottom of my heart.
We may be wrong of course..but when he telephoned the lady mentioned earlier, she refused his call...and HE even said that, but what he DIDN'T say was the reason why she refused it...he REVERSED THE CHARGES, wanting HER to pay for it. Does that sound like a man that has, apparantly, wealth over there?
I will also say this to you. Americans are insular in their lives, many have not seen the outside of the USA (some not even outside of their own state)and the people living in Europe KNOW what this particular nationality are about. He might have painted a rosy picture to you and promised you the earth but oppression of the female species IS still there. NOw, I am NOT saying that you will be oppressed, it's more of information for you, yes maybe even a warning.
Many of us, me included, took the view that he was "Green Carding" you. I recall having many debates with him and proving him wrong when he said he had his Green Card in his back pocket because his Uncle was an 'American National' and could claim him and get the Green card, you now know that is false. I cut and pasted the rules from the INS website for to prove that point.
Under the useage of many names, he has posted slanderous, nasty, rude and totally unwarranted comments against the females - which again, shows how he will treat a partner, in my humble opinion.
We have heard of how many emails he has sent to other ladies, even while professing his love to you and it was only due to CS not allowing them to be published could they not be shown for all to see...you in particular.
I recall you mentioning that his family love you like one of their own...but I don't think you'd been to see them, so all you have is the word of this person. I will even doubt if his family can even speak English. My experience with the people of this nation is the the women can't speak English, some are not even allowed to talk in the presence of men. I have seen this first hand and this wasn't in Pakistan, but in England.
No Angel, I personally, have NOTHING against you...I do worry for you though, I am concerned that you are looking at this through rose tinted glasses...we are all concerned of that point and many of us still are concerned.
All I ask of you is to go into this relationship with VERY open eyes and be careful what you sign and what you do with your property. I am NOT saying he is out to scam you or anything like that, but I am asking that you deliberate LONG and HARD before signing papers and gifting your property.
Anyway, I do wish you all the very best...and I mean that from the bottom of my heart.
Hey Steve....did you take a breath while writing that....
On a more serious note.....when people post personal items here about themselves and others and look for advice etc from others....
Well the way I see it is when you give someone sound advice based on past experiences or some solid concrete evidence....and they dont want to hear it well then that's it....back off and leave them to it....they have obviously been hit by cupids arrow and nothing you or I or us say here in CS is going to change that.....
Some people have to learn the hard way...and walk in the shoes...
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It seems CS (if it had an influence) helped her dodge a very large bullet. I don't understand being angry about that.
Steve5721: I must admit that yes, I did see that but after I made my long post and I didnd't want to make another one so soon afterwards!
However, if they have broken up and blame CS then that tells anyone with a modicum of commonsense that the so called 'love' couldn't have been very strong.
Personally, if they have broken up then I am happy for Angel, it could save her a lot of heartache later.
However, if they have broken up and blame CS then that tells anyone with a modicum of commonsense that the so called 'love' couldn't have been very strong.
Personally, if they have broken up then I am happy for Angel, it could save her a lot of heartache later.
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stefonline: ....back off and leave them to it....they have obviously been hit by cupids arrow and nothing you or I or us say here in CS is going to change that.....
Some people have to learn the hard way...and walk in the shoes...
Some people have to learn the hard way...and walk in the shoes...
We did back off Stef..this all happened a time ago and we all thought it was the end of it, until Angel posted this piece earlier.
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Steve5721: We did back off Stef..this all happened a time ago and we all thought it was the end of it, until Angel posted this piece earlier.
I didn't mean it that way....just ment step back and leave her too it....I understand now.....
I wish her the very best....
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The remarks my fomer fiance' & I have gotten finally worked. I could never post anything without a smart aleck remark fron all of you. You hurt us when we announced and made both of us cry. I know it was a bad time for me my mom was in the hospital and (he)was trying to cheer me up by announcing. So GIVE IT A GO,I MAY NOT ANSWER. I KNOW YOU"LL BE HAPPY I"M LEAVING. Good luck and I hate you all too. NEXT VICTIM WAITING FOR U SOMEWHERE !!?x€¢$£s all of you this !
I have no idea to what you are referring, and it would seem there are plenty that don't either. So I think its unfair you refer to us "ALL"...
But don't you think you are allowing this to impact upon your life a little disproportionately? Give it the credence that is warranted, which is very little, surely?
Whatever you decide, best of luck to you!