jvaski: Uh, You just recently enlightened me upon the fact that you're spoken for - sort of .........
ok i wasnt talkin to you first off and i dont know why on gods green earth i would have to inform you since its common knowledge and oft discussed for the last almost TWO YEARRRRRRRRS
i swear j sometimes i feel like you just dont even listen to us
kkitty2somewhere in Minnesota, Minnesota USA445 posts
Laura25: Jealousy is a normal human emotion.
Just like any other -- love, fear, sadness, joy, anger, etc., etc.
Why is that most CSers try so hard convincing each other
that they themselves never experience this *dirty* emotion and
don't want anything to do with those who do feel this emotion?
Hypocrisy?
Denial? Popcorn?
well said, another? what would the world be if there was no jealousy? would I care what I looked like? would I care about the car I drive? would I care if I had a big fancy home? I hate to say it but I think we need jealousy, it is one of those necessary human emotions. Jealousy has made us become who we are. So I say hell yeah I am jealous but you know what, it is a natural thing and my jealousy makes me want to better myself. As for the relationship jealosy well to a point it is flattering and when that point is over the top well all I have to say is that someone needs help
mindfful: i read most of page one and just browsed the rest
i found myself wondering laura if you meant bf/gf jealousy rather than ordinary envy/coveting
its weird that like an hour ago i was sitting in quiet thinking about my envy
what i envy, the way i envy...as a friend is dying that i have envied- and i have been again faced with the fact that we never know another's life or path or true circumstance, nor the meaning of it all. all the why's ya know?
why do they get to be happy? wheres mine? etc there was a time in my life when i was very disciplined in being a cheerleader for all even tho it took practice to cultivate that state of mind it became second nature.
this week i have been faced with the fact that i have slowly been slipping back to that comparison junk and i remember what i have been taught by a practice i am involved with; never compare your insides to somebody else's outsides, cuz we just dont know. we must admit we dont have a full and accurate picture of them but we need to be tending what we do have.
finding this thread and having such confirmation ( i think such synchronicity- at least for me is confirming) and being able to share this has set me back straight now- or at least put a new awareness on that for me.
so thanks
mindfful: am i jealous that you posted to everyone but me?hmmm
ill get back to ya when i figger it out
Right, I was talking about jealousy, not envy. I could've addressed envy too, but I am afraid it's going to be too time-consuming -- I don't have time to sidetrack...
But jealousy is not just bf/gf stuff, ya know? It's basically rivalry for love - romantic interest, friendship, family, any...
That's how we all wired.
It's only when jealousy becomes excessive, it becomes destructive.
Hence it's not about this feeling per se, but about other personality traits, it's all about how a person handles this perfectly natural emotion.
P.S. Besides you as a believer shouldn't be ashamed of this feelings since god created man in his own image and...
" I, The Lord your God, Am A Jealous God.
Exodus 20:5 "You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me..."
Exodus 34:14 "Do not worship any other god, for the LORD , whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God."
Deuteronomy 4:24 "For the LORD your God is a consuming fire, a jealous God."
Joshua 24:19 "Joshua said to the people, 'You are not able to serve the LORD . He is a holy God; he is a jealous God. He will not forgive your rebellion and your sins.'"
Nahum 1:2 "The LORD is a jealous and avenging God;..." "
nanners2863: Sometimes..and it's rare..I do get jealous but I find that taking a step back and reassessing the situation or communicating my feelings ratioanally usually eleviates this. I think poor behaviour due to jealousy is what is untolerable here.
Jealousy is an emotion experienced by one who perceives that another person is giving something that s/he wants (typically attention, love, or affection) to a third party. For example, a child will likely become jealous when her parent gives candy to a sibling but not to her. While the child's jealousy might be assuaged if she also received candy from the parent, such is typically not the case for a jealous lover, who wants the beloved to give some kinds of attention exclusively to him.
Some authorities (e.g., Rawls, A Theory of Justice, 1971) distinguish between jealousy and envy on the ground that jealousy involves the wish to keep what one has, and envy the wish to get what one does not have. (Thus, the child is jealous of her parents' attention to a sibling, but envious of her friend's new bicycle.) This is problematic in that, e.g., a teenager may be jealous of the affection a rock star bestows on his fiancee, even though the teenager neither has nor thinks she has that affection herself. Others suggest that the key difference between envy and jealousy is the involvement of a third party: it is not merely that the jealous person wishes to have the attention for himself, or that the third party who is getting it would not get it, but rather that he wishes the person of whom he is jealous would not give that attention to a third party. However, we also speak of jealousy in cases where there is no third party, as in "a jealously guarded secret."
lostinspace: Jealousy is an emotion experienced by one who perceives that another person is giving something that s/he wants (typically attention, love, or affection) to a third party. For example, a child will likely become jealous when her parent gives candy to a sibling but not to her. While the child's jealousy might be assuaged if she also received candy from the parent, such is typically not the case for a jealous lover, who wants the beloved to give some kinds of attention exclusively to him.
Some authorities (e.g., Rawls, A Theory of Justice, 1971) distinguish between jealousy and envy on the ground that jealousy involves the wish to keep what one has, and envy the wish to get what one does not have. (Thus, the child is jealous of her parents' attention to a sibling, but envious of her friend's new bicycle.) This is problematic in that, e.g., a teenager may be jealous of the affection a rock star bestows on his fiancee, even though the teenager neither has nor thinks she has that affection herself. Others suggest that the key difference between envy and jealousy is the involvement of a third party: it is not merely that the jealous person wishes to have the attention for himself, or that the third party who is getting it would not get it, but rather that he wishes the person of whom he is jealous would not give that attention to a third party. However, we also speak of jealousy in cases where there is no third party, as in "a jealously guarded secret."
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Let's post a thread about it and find out.
Because this one is not gender specific.
No way, no how.
I meant You and I dummy .......
Let's just work it out with mail .......