invinciblemuse: I'm glad they're protesting - it's about time.
I have seen the negative effects these ridiculous tuition fees have on students first hand. How are they supposed to concentrate on getting an education when debts and sheer survival are the biggest concerns?
you cant be serious....
in what universe does riseing costs ever justify violence ?
Hippy_Boy: I think that while the UK pursues a policy of the rich getting richer at the expense of the rest of the poor then this kind of protest is perfectly justified, if a person is sent to prison for 5 years are they asked to repay costs when they're released ? No, so why should the UK government be allowed to charge students up to 3 times the previous limit to receive an education that will hopefully benefit society in the long term ? MP's are allowed to claim for fridges, carpets & furniture at the tax-payers expense but will they allow school leavers to further their education at a reasonable cost ? No, is this fair ? NO.
The UK government, whichever indifferent party has been in charge, have for the past 10 years run the country into the ground, so if it takes £250 worth of damage on a tax-payer provided £100,000 + car then so be it. Duck next time Charlie boy or take a cab & be less conspicuous !!
Hippy_Boy: I think that while the UK pursues a policy of the rich getting richer at the expense of the rest of the poor then this kind of protest is perfectly justified, if a person is sent to prison for 5 years are they asked to repay costs when they're released ? No, so why should the UK government be allowed to charge students up to 3 times the previous limit to receive an education that will hopefully benefit society in the long term ? MP's are allowed to claim for fridges, carpets & furniture at the tax-payers expense but will they allow school leavers to further their education at a reasonable cost ? No, is this fair ? NO.
The UK government, whichever indifferent party has been in charge, have for the past 10 years run the country into the ground, so if it takes £250 worth of damage on a tax-payer provided £100,000 + car then so be it. Duck next time Charlie boy or take a cab & be less conspicuous !!
Actually, they are made to repay costs of incarceration here in the States
Blues63: Well, when I went through university (c. 1999-2005) part-time, I worked full-time and attended lectures at night. During this period our tuition fees sky-rocketed. Did I protest? No, that's the way it was at the time. Complaining and protesting clearly wouldn't have changed a thing.
The government subsidised my fees through the higher education scheme, but owing to my income, I had to pay as I went. Ok, I wanted to do this, so be it. I had to pay Student Union fees which were high, but not onerous and although as a night student I really didn't enjoy the benefits of membership that much, I still paid without complaint.
My point is, all the time I was furthering my education I never once considered it my right~it just never occurred to me. It was my choice, so I had to pay for it.
I've never used my education in my working life apart from a small business importing and selling ancient artefacts and antiquities. Do I mind? No, I went to university to learn what I wanted to learn and I acheived my goal.
galrads: Sir ..... You obviously don't know law in this country and fail to realize that the spectators and people harmed there then weren't throwing rocks! They were spectators......... Geeesh
JSuburbia: Not to mention the officer that was thrown off his horse.
I think the variable that isn't appreciated is when buildings are burning, rocks being throw, etc; police don't know if someone has a weapon/gun in the crowd. Everyone's adrenalin is maxed out.
Blues63: True, and that does happen through scholarships. I was once told by a lecturer that if I kept my results up (which I did) I would be eligible for a scholarship to Oxford or Cambridge. The thought was encouraging to say the least, but I chose to stay with the lifestyle I already enjoyed, for the scholarship was somewhat meagre.
Here in Australia, we have subsidised education. Back in the seventies, the government did pay for tertiary education if the individual displayed intelligence and the ability to work throughout high school. However, apparently the massive costs involved weren't popular with the electorate. Furthermore, as we have seen recently, in times of recession the government cannot afford the burden. What does the government do? Impose even higher taxation to pay for public tertiary education? A rock and a hard place, eh?An old joke comes to mind sadly.
What's the question offered by an Arts graduate?
"Would you like fries with that?"
yep and its a really good system HECs ....37 and just last year finnised paying off my debt for an education ive never used .. maybe I should have studied Arts
galrads: There were no rocks being thrown by either side as the students were going about their way to classes and the guard was ordered to fire on them and innocent bystanders. Get real.
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I have seen the negative effects these ridiculous tuition fees have on students first hand. How are they supposed to concentrate on getting an education when debts and sheer survival are the biggest concerns?
you cant be serious....
in what universe does riseing costs ever justify violence ?
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