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Dec 11, 2010 5:11 PM CST The London riots and the attack on Prince Charles
puppypower
puppypowerpuppypowerRockhampton, Queensland Australia9 Threads 2 Polls 757 Posts
invinciblemuse: I'm glad they're protesting - it's about time.

I have seen the negative effects these ridiculous tuition fees have on students first hand. How are they supposed to concentrate on getting an education when debts and sheer survival are the biggest concerns?



you cant be serious....

in what universe does riseing costs ever justify violence ?
frustrated frustrated frustrated


pp
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Dec 11, 2010 5:38 PM CST The London riots and the attack on Prince Charles
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
johnaustin123: OHIO CSNY ( got audio back) - Kent State Massacre Montage


Lest We Forget....... handshake
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Dec 11, 2010 5:41 PM CST The London riots and the attack on Prince Charles
invinciblemuse
invinciblemuseinvinciblemuseDresden, Saxony Germany38 Threads 2 Polls 6,026 Posts
puppypower: you cant be serious....

in what universe does riseing costs ever justify violence ?
pp


You've misread my statement - I said protesting, not rioting.
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Dec 11, 2010 5:44 PM CST The London riots and the attack on Prince Charles
puppypower
puppypowerpuppypowerRockhampton, Queensland Australia9 Threads 2 Polls 757 Posts
invinciblemuse: You've misread my statement - I said protesting, not rioting.




in a thread about riots you stated

"I'm glad they're protesting - it's about time"
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Dec 11, 2010 5:48 PM CST The London riots and the attack on Prince Charles
johnaustin123
johnaustin123johnaustin123Eastlake, Ohio USA76 Threads 16 Polls 4,330 Posts
It is certainly a mad, mad, mad, mad world that we live in.

Scenes from It's a Mad, Mad, Mad World

#349) IT'S A MAD, MAD, MAD, MAD WORLD (1963)



It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World - Three Stooges



Scene from It's a Mad, Mad, Mad World



It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World" - The Flying Scenes



It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World - Midpoint Montage

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Dec 11, 2010 5:56 PM CST The London riots and the attack on Prince Charles
invinciblemuse
invinciblemuseinvinciblemuseDresden, Saxony Germany38 Threads 2 Polls 6,026 Posts
puppypower: in a thread about riots you stated

"I'm glad they're protesting - it's about time"


Check your mail.
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Dec 11, 2010 6:48 PM CST The London riots and the attack on Prince Charles
johnaustin123
johnaustin123johnaustin123Eastlake, Ohio USA76 Threads 16 Polls 4,330 Posts
We must not riot, but rather become simple men and woman.
Go to a music concert to get your frustrations out. That is much healthier.

Riots happen in our lives and it is always better for us peaceful to talk about it.


Lynyrd Skynyrd - Simple Man

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Dec 11, 2010 8:37 PM CST The London riots and the attack on Prince Charles
Blues63
Blues63Blues63Brisbane, Queensland Australia6 Threads 1 Polls 2,934 Posts
cherryrae: the less difficult we make it for those with the capability to finish a degree, the better in my opinion.


Don't waste your post on me. Tell it to the electorate.
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Dec 11, 2010 8:39 PM CST The London riots and the attack on Prince Charles
Blues63
Blues63Blues63Brisbane, Queensland Australia6 Threads 1 Polls 2,934 Posts
Hippy_Boy: I think that while the UK pursues a policy of the rich getting richer at the expense of the rest of the poor then this kind of protest is perfectly justified, if a person is sent to prison for 5 years are they asked to repay costs when they're released ? No, so why should the UK government be allowed to charge students up to 3 times the previous limit to receive an education that will hopefully benefit society in the long term ? MP's are allowed to claim for fridges, carpets & furniture at the tax-payers expense but will they allow school leavers to further their education at a reasonable cost ? No, is this fair ? NO.

The UK government, whichever indifferent party has been in charge, have for the past 10 years run the country into the ground, so if it takes £250 worth of damage on a tax-payer provided £100,000 + car then so be it. Duck next time Charlie boy or take a cab & be less conspicuous !!



...and back in the real world. laugh
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Dec 11, 2010 8:51 PM CST The London riots and the attack on Prince Charles
JSuburbia
JSuburbiaJSuburbiaOrbisonia, Pennsylvania USA17 Threads 2,518 Posts
Hippy_Boy: I think that while the UK pursues a policy of the rich getting richer at the expense of the rest of the poor then this kind of protest is perfectly justified, if a person is sent to prison for 5 years are they asked to repay costs when they're released ? No, so why should the UK government be allowed to charge students up to 3 times the previous limit to receive an education that will hopefully benefit society in the long term ? MP's are allowed to claim for fridges, carpets & furniture at the tax-payers expense but will they allow school leavers to further their education at a reasonable cost ? No, is this fair ? NO.

The UK government, whichever indifferent party has been in charge, have for the past 10 years run the country into the ground, so if it takes £250 worth of damage on a tax-payer provided £100,000 + car then so be it. Duck next time Charlie boy or take a cab & be less conspicuous !!



Actually, they are made to repay costs of incarceration here in the Stateslaugh
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Dec 11, 2010 9:09 PM CST The London riots and the attack on Prince Charles
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
Blues63: Well, when I went through university (c. 1999-2005) part-time, I worked full-time and attended lectures at night. During this period our tuition fees sky-rocketed. Did I protest? No, that's the way it was at the time. Complaining and protesting clearly wouldn't have changed a thing.

The government subsidised my fees through the higher education scheme, but owing to my income, I had to pay as I went. Ok, I wanted to do this, so be it. I had to pay Student Union fees which were high, but not onerous and although as a night student I really didn't enjoy the benefits of membership that much, I still paid without complaint.

My point is, all the time I was furthering my education I never once considered it my right~it just never occurred to me. It was my choice, so I had to pay for it.

I've never used my education in my working life apart from a small business importing and selling ancient artefacts and antiquities. Do I mind? No, I went to university to learn what I wanted to learn and I acheived my goal.


At least there's 1 normal person in Australia yay
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Dec 11, 2010 9:10 PM CST The London riots and the attack on Prince Charles
johnaustin123
johnaustin123johnaustin123Eastlake, Ohio USA76 Threads 16 Polls 4,330 Posts
Armed MC - Cronulla Riot New World Order in Australia

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Dec 11, 2010 9:12 PM CST The London riots and the attack on Prince Charles
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
galrads: Sir ..... You obviously don't know law in this country and fail to realize that the spectators and people harmed there then weren't throwing rocks! They were spectators......... Geeesh


Go view u tube. Rocks were clearly being thrown. yawn
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Dec 11, 2010 9:19 PM CST The London riots and the attack on Prince Charles
lilmamma71
lilmamma71lilmamma71St. Louis, Missouri USA31 Threads 1,345 Posts
JSuburbia: Not to mention the officer that was thrown off his horse.

are you talking about the one that was being ridden by the police officer or the one that was riding in the car w/ Prince Charles???doh rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Dec 11, 2010 9:22 PM CST The London riots and the attack on Prince Charles
Blues63
Blues63Blues63Brisbane, Queensland Australia6 Threads 1 Polls 2,934 Posts
johnaustin123: Armed MC - Cronulla Riot New World Order in Australia



rolling on the floor laughing An interesting interpretation to say the least.
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Dec 11, 2010 9:25 PM CST The London riots and the attack on Prince Charles
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
JSuburbia: Not to mention the officer that was thrown off his horse.


I think the variable that isn't appreciated is when buildings are burning, rocks being throw, etc; police don't know if someone has a weapon/gun in the crowd. Everyone's adrenalin is maxed out.

I couldn't be a cop...
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Dec 11, 2010 9:49 PM CST The London riots and the attack on Prince Charles
johnaustin123
johnaustin123johnaustin123Eastlake, Ohio USA76 Threads 16 Polls 4,330 Posts
You are cool and great Blues63

(It was difficult because Mexico sometimes has a problem providing a link)

Troops Kill 'capo' of Top Mexican Drug Cartel

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Dec 11, 2010 10:11 PM CST The London riots and the attack on Prince Charles
puppypower
puppypowerpuppypowerRockhampton, Queensland Australia9 Threads 2 Polls 757 Posts
Blues63: True, and that does happen through scholarships. I was once told by a lecturer that if I kept my results up (which I did) I would be eligible for a scholarship to Oxford or Cambridge. The thought was encouraging to say the least, but I chose to stay with the lifestyle I already enjoyed, for the scholarship was somewhat meagre.

Here in Australia, we have subsidised education. Back in the seventies, the government did pay for tertiary education if the individual displayed intelligence and the ability to work throughout high school. However, apparently the massive costs involved weren't popular with the electorate. Furthermore, as we have seen recently, in times of recession the government cannot afford the burden. What does the government do? Impose even higher taxation to pay for public tertiary education? A rock and a hard place, eh?An old joke comes to mind sadly.

What's the question offered by an Arts graduate?

"Would you like fries with that?"



yep and its a really good system HECs ....37 and just last year finnised paying off my debt for an education ive never used ..
maybe I should have studied Arts

sigh
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Dec 11, 2010 10:48 PM CST The London riots and the attack on Prince Charles
lilmamma71
lilmamma71lilmamma71St. Louis, Missouri USA31 Threads 1,345 Posts
galrads: There were no rocks being thrown by either side as the students were going about their way to classes and the guard was ordered to fire on them and innocent bystanders. Get real.


Here's a link:



the students were throwing rocks, paint and screaming chants of "off w/ their heads"...doh
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Dec 11, 2010 10:57 PM CST The London riots and the attack on Prince Charles
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
lilmamma71: Here's a link:



the students were throwing rocks, paint and screaming chants of "off w/ their heads"...
confused I believe we're talking about two different events. You're referring to the recent event in the UK and I was discussing Kent State Massacre. help
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