The London riots and the attack on Prince Charles (307)
RDM59: There is a large anarchist element infiltrating these student demonstrations, they are coming prepared for violence, unlike the real students that are involved.
Many students voted for the Lib/Dems who promised in their manifesto NOT to increase student fees. The lib/dems have gone back on their word in order to get into coalition government with the conservatives. They are liers and won't be getting any future votes from the young. Very short sighted IMO but hey, they got into power, job done !
To jeopardize the education of our students is a crime IMO, with China producing 4 million graduates a year we have to compete more, not less !
As for the Royal car being attacked, why it was allowed in that area beggars belief. More incompetence basically .....
Many students voted for the Lib/Dems who promised in their manifesto NOT to increase student fees. The lib/dems have gone back on their word in order to get into coalition government with the conservatives. They are liers and won't be getting any future votes from the young. Very short sighted IMO but hey, they got into power, job done !
To jeopardize the education of our students is a crime IMO, with China producing 4 million graduates a year we have to compete more, not less !
As for the Royal car being attacked, why it was allowed in that area beggars belief. More incompetence basically .....
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RDM59: There is a large anarchist element infiltrating these student demonstrations, they are coming prepared for violence, unlike the real students that are involved.
Many students voted for the Lib/Dems who promised in their manifesto NOT to increase student fees. The lib/dems have gone back on their word in order to get into coalition government with the conservatives. They are liers and won't be getting any future votes from the young. Very short sighted IMO but hey, they got into power, job done !
To jeopardize the education of our students is a crime IMO, with China producing 4 million graduates a year we have to compete more, not less !
As for the Royal car being attacked, why it was allowed in that area beggars belief. More incompetence basically .....
Many students voted for the Lib/Dems who promised in their manifesto NOT to increase student fees. The lib/dems have gone back on their word in order to get into coalition government with the conservatives. They are liers and won't be getting any future votes from the young. Very short sighted IMO but hey, they got into power, job done !
To jeopardize the education of our students is a crime IMO, with China producing 4 million graduates a year we have to compete more, not less !
As for the Royal car being attacked, why it was allowed in that area beggars belief. More incompetence basically .....
as i said before, socialist allaince is recruiting the disenfranchised, and helping them prepare for violence
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todger: The universities are flooded with overseas students getting handouts.Why should i pay for them?
No one asks us , look just how much money , goes for the military ,out of the budget ...
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The majority of people who vote for labour are good honest people.However,it also attracts the lazy,scumbags who benifit from the handouts which the labour goverment give.
The genuine students will protest with out violence,but the the non students go only to stir things up,and are not interested in the students,only in the benifits they will be losing.
In the miners strike of 1984,the same element were paid £5 a day to cause trouble,whereas the majority of miners wanted to protest peacefully.
The genuine students will protest with out violence,but the the non students go only to stir things up,and are not interested in the students,only in the benifits they will be losing.
In the miners strike of 1984,the same element were paid £5 a day to cause trouble,whereas the majority of miners wanted to protest peacefully.
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cherryrae: as i said before, socialist allaince is recruiting the disenfranchised, and helping them prepare for violence
A tactic that will certainly alienate those of moderate views that previously may have been sympathetic.
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Boban1: No one asks us , look just how much money , goes for the military ,out of the budget ...
You need to set up a Printing Press in your Basement!Print your Own Spending Money!
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Blues63: A tactic that will certainly alienate those of moderate views that previously may have been sympathetic.
If there any who possess moderate views left in this world.
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I could write several pages in response to your comment, but I'll keep it short by just pointing out a few things:
I don't think anyone actually intends to waste years of study on a useless degree.
Overseas students pay enormous fees, they are not getting handouts.
Most students work, very many spend more hours working to earn a living than studying - and as a result their studies suffer.
You have a point, investing in apprenticeships would be good. And admission to a university should be earned based on academic merit, not on the ability to pay gigantic fees and/or the willingness to get into debt.
A lot of students make huge sacrifices, they don't have it as cushy as some might imagine. A few years back the average debt a student was expected to have accumulated while undertaking his/her studies was £16.000 - fancy starting your working life with a debt like that hanging over your head? With the new proposed tuition fees I'm guessing this amount will at least triple.
Oh, they are paying back big time. I know students, who still struggle to pay off their debts after ten years of constantly working. But where does the money go?? The banks get it, thanks to loans and credit card debts that were a necessary evil in order to continue studying. Something is very wrong about that picture IMO...
time4fun4u: I for one do not mind paying for a persons education up to the age of 16.I still pay taxes in the uk,without recieving any benifits,but i look at it that i am paying back for things such as my education ect.
However,no one has a right to further education.Many go onto university to do degrees that to put plainly,are no use nor ornament,and they certainly have no chance of getting a job with such a degree.Many even have no intention of pursuing a job in the field they have studied for.There are those that take a year off to travel.Great,i bet many hard working people would like to do the same.
However,no one has a right to further education.Many go onto university to do degrees that to put plainly,are no use nor ornament,and they certainly have no chance of getting a job with such a degree.Many even have no intention of pursuing a job in the field they have studied for.There are those that take a year off to travel.Great,i bet many hard working people would like to do the same.
I don't think anyone actually intends to waste years of study on a useless degree.
time4fun4u: The universities are flooded with overseas students getting handouts.Why should i pay for them?
Overseas students pay enormous fees, they are not getting handouts.
time4fun4u: What is wrong with working and studying,as so many in the past have done?
Most students work, very many spend more hours working to earn a living than studying - and as a result their studies suffer.
time4fun4u: Degrees in mathmatics,the sciences ect are important,but many are meaningless.
Shouldnt money be put into companies to help get the apprentaship system back on line instead?
Shouldnt money be put into companies to help get the apprentaship system back on line instead?
You have a point, investing in apprenticeships would be good. And admission to a university should be earned based on academic merit, not on the ability to pay gigantic fees and/or the willingness to get into debt.
time4fun4u: Nothing in life is free,and sometimes sacrifices have to be made at the beginning to reap the benifits at the end.
A lot of students make huge sacrifices, they don't have it as cushy as some might imagine. A few years back the average debt a student was expected to have accumulated while undertaking his/her studies was £16.000 - fancy starting your working life with a debt like that hanging over your head? With the new proposed tuition fees I'm guessing this amount will at least triple.
time4fun4u: A person buys a van to start a business,do they get help? No,they have to pay it back over years.So why cant a student pay something back over the 40yrs they will be working?
Right,have a moan now,said my bit,and i dont care!
Right,have a moan now,said my bit,and i dont care!
Oh, they are paying back big time. I know students, who still struggle to pay off their debts after ten years of constantly working. But where does the money go?? The banks get it, thanks to loans and credit card debts that were a necessary evil in order to continue studying. Something is very wrong about that picture IMO...
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Conrad73: You need to set up a Printing Press in your Basement!Print your Own Spending Money!
I know ,Im talking rubbish here and Im incapable to change anything .... But why are we so afraid of changes.... why do the same models ,for centuries , robbing common people
We `ve been hearing the same lies since the down of time [in a new package tho ]...
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When a student finishes his/her studies they will be due to repay approx £ 30,000 when they get a job.( over a long period ).
What if 2 students marry, have kids and one gives up their job. Will their partner have to pay back both their debts ? ....
What if 2 students marry, have kids and one gives up their job. Will their partner have to pay back both their debts ? ....
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invinciblemuse: I could write several pages in response to your comment, but I'll keep it short by just pointing out a few things:I don't think anyone actually intends to waste years of study on a useless degree.Overseas students pay enormous fees, they are not getting handouts.Most students work, very many spend more hours working to earn a living than studying - and as a result their studies suffer.You have a point, investing in apprenticeships would be good. And admission to a university should be earned based on academic merit, not on the ability to pay gigantic fees and/or the willingness to get into debt.A lot of students make huge sacrifices, they don't have it as cushy as some might imagine. A few years back the average debt a student was expected to have accumulated while undertaking his/her studies was £16.000 - fancy starting your working life with a debt like that hanging over your head? With the new proposed tuition fees I'm guessing this amount will at least triple. Oh, they are paying back big time. I know students, who still struggle to pay off their debts after ten years of constantly working. But where does the money go?? The banks get it, thanks to loans and credit card debts that were a necessary evil in order to continue studying. Something is very wrong about that picture IMO...
Your opinion is greatly respected,and put clearly.
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time4fun4u: Your opinion is greatly respected,and put clearly.
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Boban1: I know ,Im talking rubbish here and Im incapable to change anything .... But why are we so afraid of changes.... why do the same models ,for centuries , robbing common people
We `ve been hearing the same lies since the down of time [in a new package tho ]...
We `ve been hearing the same lies since the down of time [in a new package tho ]...
Naw,no rubbish!
But when Government prints Money,it is called Fiscal Policy,when we do it,they call it Counterfeiting!
Government's Powers could stand some serious pruning!
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invinciblemuse: I could write several pages in response to your comment, but I'll keep it short by just pointing out a few things:I don't think anyone actually intends to waste years of study on a useless degree.Overseas students pay enormous fees, they are not getting handouts.Most students work, very many spend more hours working to earn a living than studying - and as a result their studies suffer.You have a point, investing in apprenticeships would be good. And admission to a university should be earned based on academic merit, not on the ability to pay gigantic fees and/or the willingness to get into debt.A lot of students make huge sacrifices, they don't have it as cushy as some might imagine. A few years back the average debt a student was expected to have accumulated while undertaking his/her studies was £16.000 - fancy starting your working life with a debt like that hanging over your head? With the new proposed tuition fees I'm guessing this amount will at least triple. Oh, they are paying back big time. I know students, who still struggle to pay off their debts after ten years of constantly working. But where does the money go?? The banks get it, thanks to loans and credit card debts that were a necessary evil in order to continue studying. Something is very wrong about that picture IMO...
One of the best posts on this topic!
Just to add now i know why Western World so wanted to destroy Soviet Union .... because our edication ( even in the best Universities like MGU was FREE! TOTALY FREE! The only must was needed exelent grades in School.
I graduated Art college. For 4 years I was studying for free. It see like I was one of the lucky ones who was born in USSR.
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Albertaghost: The other end of the country - 2400 miles away. Came out here with a car and seven hundred bucks four years ago. Now I own, not owe on but own, three semis, two cars, a flatbed pickup, two quads and a high end mountain bike as well as a couple pieces of equipment. No millionaire but doing alright, friends back east say it just got worse but none are willing to move. One of the fellows working for me is from Jamaica, same story for him. In another year he will probably go on his own as well. He's in the process of bringing his family here Funny, he's trying to get here and all I want to do is go there for a few weeks to warm up. He said we'll do it and he'll intro me to his relatives and all, some ladies who like guys like me.
You are right when life gets worse and there is not a ray of hope for a bright future .... pack your stuff and go. The Planet is huge, right?
On my daughters cermony of reciving Canadian citizenship there were 40 people and 30 of them were from England, Ireland and Scotland. It says how bad it got down there. And by the way my daughter was the only one representing Russia
Well done! O!A brave one!
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johnaustin123: The London riots and the attack on Prince Charles
(4) Members of the British Police were critically injured.
I have a live feed from London, so I can watch this live.
The riot is about the raise in student tuition in Great Britain.
They broke out the window in Prince Charles’s car, kicked his automobile and splattered white paint on the trunk.
They smashed windows at Government buildings in downtown London.
I couldn't believe that British Horses are also helping the British Police.
What do you think about this?
London Riot: Tory HQ smashed by British students
(4) Members of the British Police were critically injured.
I have a live feed from London, so I can watch this live.
The riot is about the raise in student tuition in Great Britain.
They broke out the window in Prince Charles’s car, kicked his automobile and splattered white paint on the trunk.
They smashed windows at Government buildings in downtown London.
I couldn't believe that British Horses are also helping the British Police.
What do you think about this?
London Riot: Tory HQ smashed by British students
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The way I see it, if someone wishes to further their education after high school, they should pay for it, not the government.
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time4fun4u: The royals have a lot of protection,but on many occasions,they choose not to go overboard with it,so as to appear more relaxed with the people.
Bullet proof glass can be broken.It is designed to stop a snipers bullet,or a close range attack.Its construction is differant,the same as a bullet proof vest,will not stop a knife.
Bullet proof glass can be broken.It is designed to stop a snipers bullet,or a close range attack.Its construction is differant,the same as a bullet proof vest,will not stop a knife.
It said The Royals were going to do a lot of cutting back ,also, due to the economy. I don't think they were talking about The Royal Wedding, though.
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hollyberries: It said The Royals were going to do a lot of cutting back ,also, due to the economy. I don't think they were talking about The Royal Wedding, though.
The royals have never liked heavy security,especially Princess Anne,she can get quite nasty about it.They want to be seen as the peoples royalty.
Not an easy situation for the security forces though,but its hard to tell a member of the Royal family to sod off!
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Burnt the SOB down in the end! Bulletproof Vest with Ceramic-Inserts is even hard to penetrate with a Blade,IMO!