RDM59: Oh I can live with it OK, it's all done now, just commenting on life's past events here.
Yes, it has taught them not to bury their head in the sand but I hope it has also taught them that it is also necessary to fight and endure for something they think is worthy. That's not easy in today's throw away mentality society.
Yes that too!! Giving up at the first sign of difficulty is not good!!
I was with the father of my kids for 12 years, 11 of them married ...
EagleWoman: Yes that too!! Giving up at the first sign of difficulty is not good!!
I was with the father of my kids for 12 years, 11 of them married ...
I was 17 years, 12 of them married for me. Actually technically we are still married, but officially and legally separated. We have just never got around to getting a divorce, should any one of us want to marry again then it won't be a problem getting it sorted. Her new man lives with her and 2 of my kids and they have a 4 year old little boy together now. All is cool .... I/we are all pretty lucky really and I do appreciate it.
RDM59: I was 17 years, 12 of them married for me. Actually technically we are still married, but officially and legally separated. We have just never got around to getting a divorce, should any one of us want to marry again then it won't be a problem getting it sorted. Her new man lives with her and 2 of my kids and they have a 4 year old little boy together now. All is cool .... I/we are all pretty lucky really and I do appreciate it.
Sounds settled and pleasant ...
I was married again for 4 years some years later ...
Now I think that if I married again it would be an un-official wedding with just friends and loved one witnessing our exchanging vows, and having a great knees up, no paperwork. The paperwork makes no fifference it's the 2 individuals that does.
EagleWoman: Thanks Vinny!! I see men and women getting to understand one another better, sharings experiences and communicating lovingly!!!
And its a breath of fresh air around here, some of us are old enough to of have trials and tribulations and are thankfully coming out the other end , more appreciative and understanding.
And for anyone wanting to 'go for it' do by all means but always let appreciation for your loved one be noticeable and talk its no good bottling any anxieties and later having fireworks ... none of us have crytal balls realy....
tomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
todger: And its a breath of fresh air around here, some of us are old enough to of have trials and tribulations and are thankfully coming out the other end , more appreciative and understanding.
And for anyone wanting to 'go for it' do by all means but always let appreciation for your loved one be noticeable and talk its no good bottling any anxieties and later having fireworks ... none of us have crytal balls realy....
oh except R its cold in bonny Scotland
I did 25 years before being released. Fortunately it was amicable and the children were grown up, so no problems. I'm suing for wrongful arrest though
todger: And its a breath of fresh air around here, some of us are old enough to of have trials and tribulations and are thankfully coming out the other end , more appreciative and understanding.
And for anyone wanting to 'go for it' do by all means but always let appreciation for your loved one be noticeable and talk its no good bottling any anxieties and later having fireworks ... none of us have crytal balls realy....
oh except R its cold in bonny Scotland
Good advice!
I'm sure R is fine. Shouldn't be too difficult for him to find someone to warm up with. He looks sooooooooooooooo huggable!!
I was married again for 4 years some years later ...
Now I think that if I married again it would be an un-official wedding with just friends and loved one witnessing our exchanging vows, and having a great knees up, no paperwork. The paperwork makes no fifference it's the 2 individuals that does.
This thread has really started some serious discussion for a change. Brava!
I too have experienced this problem.
I was used to shoulder a tremendous ammount of stuff as my late wife was somehow limited in certain aspects due to her medical condition. To be perfectly honest, she was the captain and she still managed to do a lot, (like keeping me sane).
After she passed away and I started to fequent others, I was told by the first two, that they were capabile of taking care of themselves and not to be protective.
Now I am learning to share that that needs doing and to accept being helped in turn.
EagleWoman: ... are stuggling with "how to show their love" ?
So many women now (at least in the western world) are independant, can provide for themselves financially, know how to look after their own car - some are able to get on DIY stuff too -
Traditionally, men used to fill the role of financial provider, look after the maintenance of their lady's car, organise the DIY or do it themselves, and generally take care of "men's jobs" around the house. And I think that was one way of showing they cared and loved their partner apart from the intimacy and may be romantic moments.
So what happens now to ALL those guys who were used to showing "their love" through doing stuff, when the lady says "Nah! Don't worry!! I got it sussed! I'm used to doing it myself, and I like knowing where my tools are when I go to do the next job!"
Are guys able to find alternative ways of showing their love? Are they expectated to show their love through opening up to their emotions and sharing them more like women are used to doing? Is it working?
Sorry if I sound stereotipical, was not meant to but rather trying to generate a discussion on the effect of the changes in society and how men and woman relate to different roles within their relationships ...
Perhaps men who survive in the world of exclusiveness, where "isms", things, selfishness, control, those incapable of admitting their failings,etc etc can not.
A man who understands that openess, playfullness, selflessness, intelligence, compassion, the need for both to have interests of their own so both can continue to grow independently, that understands that a look across the crowded room, a light touch while going in opposite direction, that a not on the pillow saying I will miss you today, walking into her place of business, handing her a single rose, talking her in his arms giving her a passionate kiss and walking out a word never being said, wanting her to just melt into the crook of your shoulder and as she begins to nod off as she has her hair stroked knowing she has been hears and is wanted and needed. Those men will have absolutely no problem understanding what it is to be open, caring , loving, passionate, intelligent and playful...
Bental: This thread has really started some serious discussion for a change. Brava!
I too have experienced this problem.
I was used to shoulder a tremendous ammount of stuff as my late wife was somehow limited in certain aspects due to her medical condition. To be perfectly honest, she was the captain and she still managed to do a lot, (like keeping me sane).
After she passed away and I started to fequent others, I was told by the first two, that they were capabile of taking care of themselves and not to be protective.
Now I am learning to share that that needs doing and to accept being helped in turn.
sensualintelect: Perhaps men who survive in the world of exclusiveness, where "isms", things, selfishness, control, those incapable of admitting their failings,etc etc can not.
A man who understands that openess, playfullness, selflessness, intelligence, compassion, the need for both to have interests of their own so both can continue to grow independently, that understands that a look across the crowded room, a light touch while going in opposite direction, that a not on the pillow saying I will miss you today, walking into her place of business, handing her a single rose, talking her in his arms giving her a passionate kiss and walking out a word never being said, wanting her to just melt into the crook of your shoulder and as she begins to nod off as she has her hair stroked knowing she has been hears and is wanted and needed. Those men will have absolutely no problem understanding what it is to be open, caring , loving, passionate, intelligent and playful...
Bental: This thread has really started some serious discussion for a change. Brava!
I too have experienced this problem.
I was used to shoulder a tremendous ammount of stuff as my late wife was somehow limited in certain aspects due to her medical condition. To be perfectly honest, she was the captain and she still managed to do a lot, (like keeping me sane).
After she passed away and I started to fequent others, I was told by the first two, that they were capabile of taking care of themselves and not to be protective.
Now I am learning to share that that needs doing and to accept being helped in turn.
sensualintelect: Perhaps men who survive in the world of exclusiveness, where "isms", things, selfishness, control, those incapable of admitting their failings,etc etc can not.
A man who understands that openess, playfullness, selflessness, intelligence, compassion, the need for both to have interests of their own so both can continue to grow independently, that understands that a look across the crowded room, a light touch while going in opposite direction, that a note on the pillow saying I will miss you today, walking into her place of business, handing her a single rose, talking her in his arms giving her a passionate kiss and walking out a word never being said, wanting her to just melt into the crook of your shoulder and as she begins to nod off as she has her hair stroked knowing she has been hears and is wanted and needed. Those men will have absolutely no problem understanding what it is to be open, caring , loving, passionate, intelligent and playful...
sensualintelect: Perhaps men who survive in the world of exclusiveness, where "isms", things, selfishness, control, those incapable of admitting their failings,etc etc can not.
A man who understands that openess, playfullness, selflessness, intelligence, compassion, the need for both to have interests of their own so both can continue to grow independently, that understands that a look across the crowded room, a light touch while going in opposite direction, that a not on the pillow saying I will miss you today, walking into her place of business, handing her a single rose, talking her in his arms giving her a passionate kiss and walking out a word never being said, wanting her to just melt into the crook of your shoulder and as she begins to nod off as she has her hair stroked knowing she has been hears and is wanted and needed. Those men will have absolutely no problem understanding what it is to be open, caring , loving, passionate, intelligent and playful...
SUNSHINEB0Y: had time for a coffee, thought it'd be fun to pull a few pigtails
Leave my pigtails alone you!!!
This reminds me of a sweet story of when I was about 6 or 7 at school!!! This boy (who was in my class) kept pulling on my pigtails and running away!! It really hurt and I used to get mad at him!!!
Anyway wind forward some 30 something years and my parents who still live in the same village were at a village function and happened to be sitting next to a man who they vaguely knew. Started talking and introduced one another to find out HE was the boy who used to pull my pigtails. He told my parents he remembers me and that he had a soft spot for me but didn't know how deal with it so he pulled my pigtails to attract my attention and tease me!!!
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Yes, it has taught them not to bury their head in the sand but I hope it has also taught them that it is also necessary to fight and endure for something they think is worthy. That's not easy in today's throw away mentality society.
Yes that too!! Giving up at the first sign of difficulty is not good!!
I was with the father of my kids for 12 years, 11 of them married ...