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Mar 6, 2011 1:12 PM CST Do you think that men ...
kissmedeeply
kissmedeeplykissmedeeplyPetitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada70 Threads 15,139 Posts
thewall2: It's not mean..look, when I squat 1200 pounds at Monster..nobody helps me out.
Hey wall..long time..hope all is good with you..wave
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Mar 6, 2011 1:14 PM CST Do you think that men ...
carenza
carenzacarenzanear the sea, South Holland Netherlands82 Threads 1 Polls 3,113 Posts
lovely4u7da: see! what this woman lib has done

most men think the same about giving their seat to a woman on the bus "she can work like me she can stand like me" then we say he is not a gentleman for giving up his seat,,, let her carry her own bags, drop something pick it up yourself, open the door for yourself, some will give you attitude if you try to help them what is a man to do


well, when on the bus, I don't need a seat
I carry my own bags, I pick up anything I drop and pick up things other people drop, I open doors for me and other people.

I am used to it. don't think I give an attitude to any man if he doesn't help me. If I need help, I ask for it.
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Mar 6, 2011 1:15 PM CST Do you think that men ...
RDM59
RDM59RDM59Edinburgh, Lothian, Scotland UK92 Threads 5 Polls 14,070 Posts
EagleWoman: Not kin on that concept myself!!


thumbs up I don't want to be controlled nor be a controller.

Working in partnership, appreciating and respecting each others abilities and sharing the benefits together is the way I see it.


wine
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Mar 6, 2011 1:15 PM CST Do you think that men ...
thewall2
thewall2thewall2montreal, Quebec Canada61 Threads 10,499 Posts
kissmedeeply: Hey wall..long time..hope all is good with you..
wave
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Mar 6, 2011 1:17 PM CST Do you think that men ...
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
lovely4u7da: see! what this woman lib has done

most men think the same about giving their seat to a woman on the bus "she can work like me she can stand like me" then we say he is not a gentleman for giving up his seat,,, let her carry her own bags, drop something pick it up yourself, open the door for yourself, some will give you attitude if you try to help them what is a man to do


I don't think it's most men!!! I think that the men who act that way are the same men who would have abused their power when "head of household". They have a "controle issue" which comes out in different ways now!!

The "You wanna be equal? Now I'll show you!!" Would have come out in different (unpleasant) guises within the relationship!!!

A man is to treat a woman with respect and a woman is to treat a man with respect. Both are human beings.

Anyone man/woman can pick up something that someone else has dropped, it's called curtesy. Anyone man/woman can carry someone elses's bag that look too heavy for them. Anyone man/woman can hold the door open or offer their seat to someone else. Again it's called curtesy.

JMO
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Mar 6, 2011 1:18 PM CST Do you think that men ...
RDM59
RDM59RDM59Edinburgh, Lothian, Scotland UK92 Threads 5 Polls 14,070 Posts
toxicaura: I have been putting some thought into what has happened over the years with regards to the marriage,home,family etc.

I have always been one to be there to help with everything on a share basis helping with what needs to be done inside the home as well as outside the home.

Since the beginning of recorded history in the human race man has been the dominant, As children we have grown up watching how families work as a unit, Not only our own but grandparents,neighbors etc.

One day all this changed, Women switched roles around completely rewriting history and the human race as we know it, However they added a few twists and turns, Each woman has the option of selecting her own preferences. She may stay with the old fashioned ways, Some may opt to go with a variety but excluding the ones she doesn't care for, Some may go full fledged womens lib. All having the added bonus which also mysteriously, The right to change her mind at any given time without notice, Also PMS was added to the check list.

How many generations will it take to over ride genetic,
hereditary, and learned traits. What are the roles of each partner in a relationship, No one knows it goes on an individual basis

Can a person take any other species of animal or mammal on earth
and without complications switch or combine roles. I would tend to say no. Some jungle species i am certain would wander off in deep depression (i would guess it would be called) and die.
Humans must survive and adapt...


professor.... solution to the problem .... head East young man ....laugh rolling on the floor laughing
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Mar 6, 2011 1:19 PM CST Do you think that men ...
carenza
carenzacarenzanear the sea, South Holland Netherlands82 Threads 1 Polls 3,113 Posts
EagleWoman: I don't think it's most men!!! I think that the men who act that way are the same men who would have abused their power when "head of household". They have a "controle issue" which comes out in different ways now!!

The "You wanna be equal? Now I'll show you!!" Would have come out in different (unpleasant) guises within the relationship!!!

A man is to treat a woman with respect and a woman is to treat a man with respect. Both are human beings.

Anyone man/woman can pick up something that someone else has dropped, it's called curtesy. Anyone man/woman can carry someone elses's bag that look too heavy for them. Anyone man/woman can hold the door open or offer their seat to someone else. Again it's called curtesy.

JMO


thumbs up
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Mar 6, 2011 1:20 PM CST Do you think that men ...
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
thewall2: So to my 25 snow removal customers...guys..I'll be there in an hour,ands to my 7..or is it 8 female..trust me...the phones off the hook...I know we're getting 25 centimetres or snow..
but Tuesaday they're announcing 6 degrees and sunny..it will melt,so until then...stay in the kitchen....and read a 300 page book...that should last you til Tuesaday.

You're all independant..and can shovel your way out in case of an emergency. Not only are they independant..but understanding too.


Why aren't you treating ALL of your customers equally male and female?
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Mar 6, 2011 1:23 PM CST Do you think that men ...
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Boban1: sounds like a conspiracy theory

Could be, dunno if you have three or so free minutes, you might want to play the 14 minute segment of a Russo interview on the following web site, beginning about seven minutes into it.
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Mar 6, 2011 1:23 PM CST Do you think that men ...
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Boban1: sounds like a conspiracy theory

Could be, dunno if you have three or so free minutes, you might want to play the 14 minute segment of a Russo interview on the following web site, beginning about seven minutes into it.
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Mar 6, 2011 1:25 PM CST Do you think that men ...
thewall2
thewall2thewall2montreal, Quebec Canada61 Threads 10,499 Posts
EagleWoman: Why aren't you treating ALL of your customers equally male and female?


Because you just said it..you're all sooooooo independant????NO??
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Mar 6, 2011 1:25 PM CST Do you think that men ...
toxicaura
toxicauratoxicaurasummit, Kentucky USA3 Threads 1 Polls 749 Posts
RDM59: .... solution to the problem .... head East young man ....
Well it is warmer therelaugh
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Mar 6, 2011 1:28 PM CST Do you think that men ...
TrueBlue1986
TrueBlue1986TrueBlue1986Sale, South Manchester, Cheshire, England UK1,322 Posts
EagleWoman: ... are stuggling with "how to show their love" ?

So many women now (at least in the western world) are independant, can provide for themselves financially, know how to look after their own car - some are able to get on DIY stuff too -

Traditionally, men used to fill the role of financial provider, look after the maintenance of their lady's car, organise the DIY or do it themselves, and generally take care of "men's jobs" around the house. And I think that was one way of showing they cared and loved their partner apart from the intimacy and may be
romantic moments.

So what happens now to ALL those guys who were used to showing "their love" through doing stuff, when the lady says "Nah! Don't worry!! I got it sussed! I'm used to doing it myself, and I like knowing where my tools are when I go to do the next job!"

Are guys able to find alternative ways of showing their love? Are they expectated to show their love through opening up to their emotions and sharing them more like women are used to doing? Is it working?

Sorry if I sound stereotipical, was not meant to but rather trying to generate a discussion on the effect of the changes in society and how men and woman relate to different roles within their relationships ...


Oh well, so many men today can't hang a shelf or wire a plug that it's easy enough find a woman that still appreciates the manly man. Endless drivel about emotions, that's just pandering to women.
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Mar 6, 2011 1:30 PM CST Do you think that men ...
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
carenza: talking about my situation:

single mum, well paid full time job, homeowner and having a car.

maximum freedom.

if something is to be fixed around the house, I pay for it.
if my car breaks, I pay for it.
if my boss is mad at me, I pay for it.
if my girl is mad at me, I pay for it....bigtime

no need for a man really because I pay for all the things that need to be fixed or replaced.

but there is one thing that can't be paid for and that is love.

after a hard days work, there is the love of my child and my cat.
that is priceless.

not sure about the love of a man. so far, I've never met a man who does things for me out of love. In a way, I always had to pay.

so where is the balance in that?

good thread.


I really, really like this post. grin

Funny and an achingly truthful expression of our era.
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Mar 6, 2011 1:32 PM CST Do you think that men ...
trueheart1941
trueheart1941trueheart1941brentwood essex, Essex, England UK27 Threads 8,005 Posts
RDM59: I don't want to be controlled nor be a controller.

Working in partnership, appreciating and respecting each others abilities and sharing the benefits together is the way I see it.
I..think what ....r/d/m. has said here..sum,s it..up.in a few words,ithink.....some of the comments here.....are sheer ......................bulls....t,give man/woman an inch.....they take a foot.....love and understanding..is the key word.
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Mar 6, 2011 1:34 PM CST Do you think that men ...
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
toxicaura: I have been putting some thought into what has happened over the years with regards to the marriage,home,family etc.

I have always been one to be there to help with everything on a share basis helping with what needs to be done inside the home as well as outside the home.

Since the beginning of recorded history in the human race man has been the dominant, As children we have grown up watching how families work as a unit, Not only our own but grandparents,neighbors etc.

One day all this changed, Women switched roles around completely rewriting history and the human race as we know it, However they added a few twists and turns, Each woman has the option of selecting her own preferences. She may stay with the old fashioned ways, Some may opt to go with a variety but excluding the ones she doesn't care for, Some may go full fledged womens lib. All having the added bonus which also mysteriously, The right to change her mind at any given time without notice, Also PMS was added to the check list.

How many generations will it take to over ride genetic,
hereditary, and learned traits. What are the roles of each partner in a relationship, No one knows it goes on an individual basis

Can a person take any other species of animal or mammal on earth
and without complications switch or combine roles. I would tend to say no. Some jungle species i am certain would wander off in deep depression (i would guess it would be called) and die.
Humans must survive and adapt...


From Wikipia: "here is plenty of evidence of ancient societies where women held greater power than in many societies today. For example, Jean Markale's studies of Celtic societies show that the power of women was reflected not only in myth and legend but in legal codes pertaining to marriage, divorce, property ownership, and the right to rule."

May be what happened is that somehow the roles of woman in society was changed ... and now it's finding it way back to where it should be ... But as we know with every change the pendulum goes from one extreme to another. When initially the roles of woman changed for whatever reason, the pendulum went to extreme and woman became totally dependant on man. Then when woman demanded their freedoms back the pendulum again went to extreme.

May be what we are going to experience next is a NEW balance between the 2 extremes. Where both men and women adjust to a new found equilibrium

Thanks for your interesting contribution

bouquet
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Mar 6, 2011 1:35 PM CST Do you think that men ...
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
thewall2: Absolutely..so much so are women in Western Society so independant and capable..when I SEE A woman's car stuck in the snow now..I think to myself..should I help her out??Then I SAY f.uck it...she can push her own car out,unlike in 2005,unless it's an extreme situation,and I LIFTED AND PUSHED A CROWN VIC..it was -40 and a kid in the backseat,it has to be an exteme situation..or else f.uck it.


That's ok Mr. Wall.

If your not strong enough to do it, I will.

Not so long ago a woman got stuck in the snow in Tesco's car park and we got her out between us.

If your not gonna have normal manners, then sisters will just do it for themselves.

It was fun.
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Mar 6, 2011 1:39 PM CST Do you think that men ...
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
EagleWoman: From Wikipia: "here is plenty of evidence of ancient societies where women held greater power than in many societies today. For example, Jean Markale's studies of Celtic societies show that the power of women was reflected not only in myth and legend but in legal codes pertaining to marriage, divorce, property ownership, and the right to rule."

May be what happened is that somehow the roles of woman in society was changed ... and now it's finding it way back to where it should be ... But as we know with every change the pendulum goes from one extreme to another. When initially the roles of woman changed for whatever reason, the pendulum went to extreme and woman became totally dependant on man. Then when woman demanded their freedoms back the pendulum again went to extreme.

May be what we are going to experience next is a NEW balance between the 2 extremes. Where both men and women adjust to a new found equilibrium

Thanks for your interesting contribution

okay I did read some about it but somehow it always made me wonder ,It`s just not logical
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Mar 6, 2011 1:40 PM CST Do you think that men ...
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
RDM59: I don't want to be controlled nor be a controller.

Working in partnership, appreciating and respecting each others abilities and sharing the benefits together is the way I see it.


Bingo!!! thumbs up bouquet
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Mar 6, 2011 1:40 PM CST Do you think that men ...
thewall2
thewall2thewall2montreal, Quebec Canada61 Threads 10,499 Posts
jac379: That's ok Mr. Wall.

If your not strong enough to do it, I will.

Not so long ago a woman got stuck in the snow in Tesco's car park and we got her out between us.

If your not gonna have normal manners, then sisters will just do it for themselves.

It was fun.



By all means...I need to save my strength..that 6 foot high by 12 foot long BOX treiler I LIFETD A couple of days ago..was


F.UCKN HEAVY.

laugh
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