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Boban1: Jesus... we are having a discussion like adults ,not a fight
Damn.
And there was me all psyched up for a bit of rough and tumble.
(You may want to revise your careless comment about my maturity
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EagleWoman: funny you should say that a few years back a colleague of mine came into work saying she'd had a wonderful weekend...
Apparently she was really frustrated and pissed off about something and went into the kitchen to tidy up. Suddenly she felt this urge to smash the plates she was getting out of the dishwasher ... so she did ... One plate down!!! Her husband went into the kitchen saw what she was doing and grabbed a plate and smashed it too. And so they took it in turn ... the kids heard the noise went to see what was happening and left them to it!!!
Once it was over they then got in their care and went to buy some new plates!!! She said was best therapy she ever had and cheaper
So you know what to do when frustrated,smash a few plates, and smash a few more when in a Greek taverna,right in front of the feet of the person, dancing in the middle of the floor.-You call the waiter and will bring you,as many dozens plates as you liked.-Apparently she was really frustrated and pissed off about something and went into the kitchen to tidy up. Suddenly she felt this urge to smash the plates she was getting out of the dishwasher ... so she did ... One plate down!!! Her husband went into the kitchen saw what she was doing and grabbed a plate and smashed it too. And so they took it in turn ... the kids heard the noise went to see what was happening and left them to it!!!
Once it was over they then got in their care and went to buy some new plates!!! She said was best therapy she ever had and cheaper
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You know, reading some of the views in this discussion could put a downer on an otherwise fabulous weekend. But it won't.
Probably because I know where my guy stands on all this.
Probably because I know where my guy stands on all this.
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HotrodLarrys: Only a few can speak the Truth,
Maybe you should go back to Stastics, on the Time of the Womens Lib, and The Increase of Divorice...Instead of assuming,
and you say the Children are better off with a single Parent, and that they are stronger today, The Children today are so lost in this world, Its sad to even ASSUME that...
The UNBROKEN Families are the ones whos Kids are not tainted by Society, The Kids today are a MESS! and that is our Future Generations, Kids having Kids, It Quite a sad Situation...
and You say Women beaten up by Men, well Maybe You should have made a better choice in Your Partner....
And Had Respect for His Duty, and Not Stand in His ( Gods) Authority,
So If This is every womans Mindset, Why have a Dating Site???
So You want a Man who YOU will Rule???????
Good Luck with that
Maybe you should go back to Stastics, on the Time of the Womens Lib, and The Increase of Divorice...Instead of assuming,
and you say the Children are better off with a single Parent, and that they are stronger today, The Children today are so lost in this world, Its sad to even ASSUME that...
The UNBROKEN Families are the ones whos Kids are not tainted by Society, The Kids today are a MESS! and that is our Future Generations, Kids having Kids, It Quite a sad Situation...
and You say Women beaten up by Men, well Maybe You should have made a better choice in Your Partner....
And Had Respect for His Duty, and Not Stand in His ( Gods) Authority,
So If This is every womans Mindset, Why have a Dating Site???
So You want a Man who YOU will Rule???????
Good Luck with that
No Larry.
We want relationships based on equality and sharing, where nobody has more power than the other, nobody rules over the other.
We want freedom from prejudice, like you've displayed.
I'm would be offended by the way you have inaccurately described my child, criticised my ability to parent and blamed me for violence against me, but that's is part of the pattern of victimization and I'm not taking it any longer.
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jac379: No Larry.
We want relationships based on equality and sharing, where nobody has more power than the other, nobody rules over the other.
We want freedom from prejudice, like you've displayed.
I'm would be offended by the way you have inaccurately described my child, criticised my ability to parent and blamed me for violence against me, but that's is part of the pattern of victimization and I'm not taking it any longer.
We want relationships based on equality and sharing, where nobody has more power than the other, nobody rules over the other.
We want freedom from prejudice, like you've displayed.
I'm would be offended by the way you have inaccurately described my child, criticised my ability to parent and blamed me for violence against me, but that's is part of the pattern of victimization and I'm not taking it any longer.
Well, I'm not a victim and will freely state that it pisses me off.
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chris27292729: And if he lives alone and do all those things what you call him???
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EagleWoman: I think many answers were about "us" and including my last reply to you about freedom and compromise ...
Of course it's about an us in a relationship... but that us is compromised of two individuals. That can't be ignored.
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EagleWoman: I think many answers were about "us" and including my last reply to you about freedom and compromise ...
Well having my wife telling me that she s gonna go out with her friends for a drink is not a us.. it`s a Me ...
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PandoraX: Of course it's about an us in a relationship... but that us is compromised of two individuals. That can't be ignored.
Exactely
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RDM59: Yes, I understand this sad and manipulative history ....
Do you think it was this way also within the more pagan based religions that seemed to hold greater respect for women ?
Do you think it was this way also within the more pagan based religions that seemed to hold greater respect for women ?
Pre christain religions and communities seemed to have a fairer system and decisions were made communally.
Elders or members in authority were both men and women. Have you read up on the Brehon laws? Very interesitng.
It was probably one of the most deomocratic and fair systems of ruling in the world, then or now.
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Boban1: Well having my wife telling me that she s gonna go out with her friends for a drink is not a us.. it`s a Me ...
So? You can tell her you're going out with the guys for a drink. Goes both ways. This is the point.
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All I know is this man is pretty much clueless :\
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PandoraX: Well, I'm not a victim and will freely state that it pisses me off.
Oh yeah, its pissed me off too.
I'm just not gonna let it go deep enough for it to be full on offense.
Water off a duck's back.
Almost laughable, but its too sad for that.
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I just watched my daughter marry my son in law last weekend. Ive never seen a man love a woman more than he does. She made him wait 12 years to marry, and he looked like he just won the lottery. So no, confident secure men have no problems expressing love.
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Men show their ways of loving in different ways but does not have to be how we would like it.
They are themselves in peculiar ways.
We just have to understand them as they should us too.
Relationship-communication-understanding
Sometimes complex, sometimes very simple.
So if you are not happy the way you percieve their love it is not for you.
It is like two liquids that don't mix (water and olive oil) you can stirr them but they come separate anyway.
They are themselves in peculiar ways.
We just have to understand them as they should us too.
Relationship-communication-understanding
Sometimes complex, sometimes very simple.
So if you are not happy the way you percieve their love it is not for you.
It is like two liquids that don't mix (water and olive oil) you can stirr them but they come separate anyway.
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PandoraX: So? You can tell her you're going out with the guys for a drink. Goes both ways. This is the point.
why would I wanna do that???
Im not talking here about dating, Im talking about marriage .And no Marriage is not suppose to be a prison ,but going out with friends wouldn`t work ( Im talking here about me and my view)
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EagleWoman: ... are stuggling with "how to show their love" ?
So many women now (at least in the western world) are independant, can provide for themselves financially, know how to look after their own car - some are able to get on DIY stuff too -
Traditionally, men used to fill the role of financial provider, look after the maintenance of their lady's car, organise the DIY or do it themselves, and generally take care of "men's jobs" around the house. And I think that was one way of showing they cared and loved their partner apart from the intimacy and may be
romantic moments.
So what happens now to ALL those guys who were used to showing "their love" through doing stuff, when the lady says "Nah! Don't worry!! I got it sussed! I'm used to doing it myself, and I like knowing where my tools are when I go to do the next job!"
Are guys able to find alternative ways of showing their love? Are they expectated to show their love through opening up to their emotions and sharing them more like women are used to doing? Is it working?
Sorry if I sound stereotipical, was not meant to but rather trying to generate a discussion on the effect of the changes in society and how men and woman relate to different roles within their relationships ...
very pleasant and entertaining thread..So many women now (at least in the western world) are independant, can provide for themselves financially, know how to look after their own car - some are able to get on DIY stuff too -
Traditionally, men used to fill the role of financial provider, look after the maintenance of their lady's car, organise the DIY or do it themselves, and generally take care of "men's jobs" around the house. And I think that was one way of showing they cared and loved their partner apart from the intimacy and may be
romantic moments.
So what happens now to ALL those guys who were used to showing "their love" through doing stuff, when the lady says "Nah! Don't worry!! I got it sussed! I'm used to doing it myself, and I like knowing where my tools are when I go to do the next job!"
Are guys able to find alternative ways of showing their love? Are they expectated to show their love through opening up to their emotions and sharing them more like women are used to doing? Is it working?
Sorry if I sound stereotipical, was not meant to but rather trying to generate a discussion on the effect of the changes in society and how men and woman relate to different roles within their relationships ...
thank you EagleWoman!
and of course all the rest,who make it so..
i dont want to repeat,what other posters have already said,so just a random thought-changing and adjusting gender roles in the society is pretty much natural process,its happening for a long,long time.the only difference now(from historical point of view,the womens liberation is still a todler),is that it has lost some of it subtelness.but still men are men and women are women,even if not the old traditional style..matter of adjusting,some are faster,some are slower .what i see so far,women are happy to be equial to men and share responsibilities,duties,jobs.etc.majority of men are too...------ This thread is Archived ------
reading not all...but many,of the comments......all sounds like rocket science...with all its complex .workinging,s out.how can it be so hard to understand....pick the right man/woman....help each other to reach the goal you seek.envy is the worst enemy...working flat out...to have a bigger house/car/holidays etc....you tend to lose sight...of the finer things in life....................EACH..OTHER.........................jmo
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none of us will give up on their so called freedom ( I`ve no idea what that really means ) none of us will compromise and we all do expect some miracle which will sweep us off our feet
For a lot women of our time, I think freedom refers to things like freedom of speach, freedom to be ourselves, freedom to say hello to someone without being given a black eye.
Freedom from fear and intimidation.
Its very often that basic.