Do you think that men ... (601)
Ron_de_Jeremy: Your views are respected... here is what a wise poet once said:
Then Almitra spoke again and said, "And what of Marriage,
master?"
And he answered saying: You were born together, and together
you shall be for evermore. You shall be together when the white
wings of death scatter your days. Aye, you shall be together even
in the silent memory of God. But let there be spaces in your
togetherness. And let the winds of the heavens dance between you.
Love one another, but make not a bond of love: let it rather be a
moving sea between the shores of your souls. Fill each other's cup
but drink not from one cup.
Give one another of your bread but eat not from the same loaf.
Sing and dance together and be joyous, but let each one of you be
alone, even as the strings of a lute are alone though they quiver
with the same music.
Give your hearts, but not into each other's keeping. For only the
hand of Life can contain your hearts. And stand together yet not
too near together: For the pillars of the temple stand apart, And the
oak tree and the cypress grow not in each other's shadow.
Then Almitra spoke again and said, "And what of Marriage,
master?"
And he answered saying: You were born together, and together
you shall be for evermore. You shall be together when the white
wings of death scatter your days. Aye, you shall be together even
in the silent memory of God. But let there be spaces in your
togetherness. And let the winds of the heavens dance between you.
Love one another, but make not a bond of love: let it rather be a
moving sea between the shores of your souls. Fill each other's cup
but drink not from one cup.
Give one another of your bread but eat not from the same loaf.
Sing and dance together and be joyous, but let each one of you be
alone, even as the strings of a lute are alone though they quiver
with the same music.
Give your hearts, but not into each other's keeping. For only the
hand of Life can contain your hearts. And stand together yet not
too near together: For the pillars of the temple stand apart, And the
oak tree and the cypress grow not in each other's shadow.
Beautiful words to live by.
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EagleWoman: Not when the marriage becomes a prison, a dictatorship and he becomes more and more abusive ...
End of marriage ...
End of marriage ...
I agree...A relationship shouldnt be loosing your freedom. It should be sharing it together.
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Ron_de_Jeremy: Your views are respected... here is what a wise poet once said:
Then Almitra spoke again and said, "And what of Marriage,
master?"
And he answered saying: You were born together, and together
you shall be for evermore. You shall be together when the white
wings of death scatter your days. Aye, you shall be together even
in the silent memory of God. But let there be spaces in your
togetherness. And let the winds of the heavens dance between you.
Love one another, but make not a bond of love: let it rather be a
moving sea between the shores of your souls. Fill each other's cup
but drink not from one cup.
Give one another of your bread but eat not from the same loaf.
Sing and dance together and be joyous, but let each one of you be
alone, even as the strings of a lute are alone though they quiver
with the same music.
Give your hearts, but not into each other's keeping. For only the
hand of Life can contain your hearts. And stand together yet not
too near together: For the pillars of the temple stand apart, And the
oak tree and the cypress grow not in each other's shadow.
Then Almitra spoke again and said, "And what of Marriage,
master?"
And he answered saying: You were born together, and together
you shall be for evermore. You shall be together when the white
wings of death scatter your days. Aye, you shall be together even
in the silent memory of God. But let there be spaces in your
togetherness. And let the winds of the heavens dance between you.
Love one another, but make not a bond of love: let it rather be a
moving sea between the shores of your souls. Fill each other's cup
but drink not from one cup.
Give one another of your bread but eat not from the same loaf.
Sing and dance together and be joyous, but let each one of you be
alone, even as the strings of a lute are alone though they quiver
with the same music.
Give your hearts, but not into each other's keeping. For only the
hand of Life can contain your hearts. And stand together yet not
too near together: For the pillars of the temple stand apart, And the
oak tree and the cypress grow not in each other's shadow.
Beautiful poem!! Thanks for posting it!
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Ron_de_Jeremy: Your views are respected... here is what a wise poet once said:
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I love the prophet. Kalil Gibran was very wise..
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venusenvy: I just watched my daughter marry my son in law last weekend. Ive never seen a man love a woman more than he does. She made him wait 12 years to marry, and he looked like he just won the lottery. So no, confident secure men have no problems expressing love.
... wonderful stuff V ..... 
I'm sure all that baking of yours went down a treat. ...
Hope you did plenty of calorie busting dancing .....
Can you share any photos ?
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Boban1: why would I wanna do that???
Im not talking here about dating, Im talking about marriage .And no Marriage is not suppose to be a prison ,but going out with friends wouldn`t work ( Im talking here about me and my view)
Im not talking here about dating, Im talking about marriage .And no Marriage is not suppose to be a prison ,but going out with friends wouldn`t work ( Im talking here about me and my view)
!!!!!You wouldn't have any friends???
I would never turn my back on my friends.
Its rude, its unhealthy and I'd have no one to laugh about the menopause with!
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GingerBe: I love the prophet. Kalil Gibran was very wise.
I read several passages at my Daughters wedding
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Ron_de_Jeremy: Your views are respected... here is what a wise poet once said:
Then Almitra spoke again and said, "And what of Marriage,
master?"
And he answered saying: You were born together, and together
you shall be for evermore. You shall be together when the white
wings of death scatter your days. Aye, you shall be together even
in the silent memory of God. But let there be spaces in your
togetherness. And let the winds of the heavens dance between you.
Love one another, but make not a bond of love: let it rather be a
moving sea between the shores of your souls. Fill each other's cup
but drink not from one cup.
Give one another of your bread but eat not from the same loaf.
Sing and dance together and be joyous, but let each one of you be
alone, even as the strings of a lute are alone though they quiver
with the same music.
Give your hearts, but not into each other's keeping. For only the
hand of Life can contain your hearts. And stand together yet not
too near together: For the pillars of the temple stand apart, And the
oak tree and the cypress grow not in each other's shadow.
Then Almitra spoke again and said, "And what of Marriage,
master?"
And he answered saying: You were born together, and together
you shall be for evermore. You shall be together when the white
wings of death scatter your days. Aye, you shall be together even
in the silent memory of God. But let there be spaces in your
togetherness. And let the winds of the heavens dance between you.
Love one another, but make not a bond of love: let it rather be a
moving sea between the shores of your souls. Fill each other's cup
but drink not from one cup.
Give one another of your bread but eat not from the same loaf.
Sing and dance together and be joyous, but let each one of you be
alone, even as the strings of a lute are alone though they quiver
with the same music.
Give your hearts, but not into each other's keeping. For only the
hand of Life can contain your hearts. And stand together yet not
too near together: For the pillars of the temple stand apart, And the
oak tree and the cypress grow not in each other's shadow.
I think I got your point
" don`t suffocate each other "...
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RDM59: ... wonderful stuff V .....
I'm sure all that baking of yours went down a treat. ...
Hope you did plenty of calorie busting dancing .....
Can you share any photos ?
I'm sure all that baking of yours went down a treat. ...
Hope you did plenty of calorie busting dancing .....
Can you share any photos ?
Im still organizing them but will post some soon. It was a magical event
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GingerBe: I love the prophet. Kalil Gibran was very wise.
Ahhh!! Is that where it's from? I loved it but didn't recognise the passage. Mind you I have it in French ... might be why lol!!
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EagleWoman: Not when the marriage becomes a prison, a dictatorship and he becomes more and more abusive ...
End of marriage ...
End of marriage ...
that`s why a couple should spend some time together before they decide to get Married ,and see if they are compatible
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GingerBe: Just wondering what happens if she loves the opera and you hate it, or you love a pint and she is totally against all alcohol, or you like being outdoors and she loves being inside.......surely you can't do everything together, if one of you hates one half and the other hates the rest, even though you love each other deeply and the chemistry is great etc.....
There will be many things you will never do that you love, that way, because you can't do them together.......
There will be many things you will never do that you love, that way, because you can't do them together.......
I think we would know our tastes ,similarities and differences ,before we get married
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venusenvy: Im still organizing them but will post some soon. It was a magical event
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EagleWoman: Was!!!
Long time ago!!
That's how I turned into "Miss little independent!"
Long time ago!!
That's how I turned into "Miss little independent!"
Should that be "Little Miss independent"?
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jac379: !!!!!
You wouldn't have any friends???
I would never turn my back on my friends.
Its rude, its unhealthy and I'd have no one to laugh about the menopause with!
You wouldn't have any friends???
I would never turn my back on my friends.
Its rude, its unhealthy and I'd have no one to laugh about the menopause with!
on the contrary , I wanna wide my circle of friends and share the good time .
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Boban1: why isn`t us as a couple with friends having a night out a option
Of course its an option, silly man.
I think its not been mentioned because its a given.
Its just good to do lots of different things.
Its healthy to come home and tell each other about conversations, a game of squash, things that you've done apart. Its healthy to have new things to bring into the relationship, to bring into conversation.
Just like its healthy to do things together with friends, or together alone.
Bring it all on!
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EagleWoman: Was!!!
Long time ago!!
That's how I turned into "Miss little independent!"
Long time ago!!
That's how I turned into "Miss little independent!"
Non-dependance is healthy .....
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EagleWoman: ... are stuggling with "how to show their love" ?
So many women now (at least in the western world) are independant, can provide for themselves financially, know how to look after their own car - some are able to get on DIY stuff too -
Traditionally, men used to fill the role of financial provider, look after the maintenance of their lady's car, organise the DIY or do it themselves, and generally take care of "men's jobs" around the house. And I think that was one way of showing they cared and loved their partner apart from the intimacy and may be
romantic moments.
So what happens now to ALL those guys who were used to showing "their love" through doing stuff, when the lady says "Nah! Don't worry!! I got it sussed! I'm used to doing it myself, and I like knowing where my tools are when I go to do the next job!"
Are guys able to find alternative ways of showing their love? Are they expectated to show their love through opening up to their emotions and sharing them more like women are used to doing? Is it working?
Sorry if I sound stereotipical, was not meant to but rather trying to generate a discussion on the effect of the changes in society and how men and woman relate to different roles within their relationships ...
me don't have a problem with that one hand don't clap, plus career women are always challenging i love it when they play hard to get.So many women now (at least in the western world) are independant, can provide for themselves financially, know how to look after their own car - some are able to get on DIY stuff too -
Traditionally, men used to fill the role of financial provider, look after the maintenance of their lady's car, organise the DIY or do it themselves, and generally take care of "men's jobs" around the house. And I think that was one way of showing they cared and loved their partner apart from the intimacy and may be
romantic moments.
So what happens now to ALL those guys who were used to showing "their love" through doing stuff, when the lady says "Nah! Don't worry!! I got it sussed! I'm used to doing it myself, and I like knowing where my tools are when I go to do the next job!"
Are guys able to find alternative ways of showing their love? Are they expectated to show their love through opening up to their emotions and sharing them more like women are used to doing? Is it working?
Sorry if I sound stereotipical, was not meant to but rather trying to generate a discussion on the effect of the changes in society and how men and woman relate to different roles within their relationships ...
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Boban1: on the contrary , I wanna wide my circle of friends and share the good time .
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