richfrench: Am I the only who cares or notices that Sade88 has left CS? Sad that she was run off by whomever.
Whoever was mailing her was wrong yes, however the block button is there for just that purpose. A simple click and she wouldnt haved had to put up with any more nasty mails from that person.
By leaving she has let that individual feel like they have scored some sort of victory.
TrueBlue1986Sale, South Manchester, Cheshire, England UK1,322 Posts
TrueBlue1986Sale, South Manchester, Cheshire, England UK1,322 posts
Conorco: Ok. Isn't freedom of religious expression a cornerstone of every democracy, i can understand how we (we have the same issue in ireland) can impose the laws of the land on foreigners but we can't force them nor should we to turn their back on their culture where it does not conflict with the law. I'd even say that sometimes we should look at changing the law to accommodate them.
Society's are constantly in flux from within and change is usually good. Foreigners offer prospects for more diversity and colour. I like the idea that due to the influx of foreigners our society will evolve in a more diversified way. We all have a tendency to resist change but i think thats motivated by fear.
I think that view is outdated, we are already massively tolerant and open to immigration. The problem now is retaining our own culture from the midst of so many others.
As for change, National Socialism was a change, Bolshevism was a change, Neo-Liberalism was a change. A change is not an endorsement because it is a change.
TrueBlue1986Sale, South Manchester, Cheshire, England UK1,322 Posts
TrueBlue1986Sale, South Manchester, Cheshire, England UK1,322 posts
cristina: Yes, freedom needs to be celebrated. But you are not inferring that only when the Moors left, Renaissence was able to be inhaled? After 7 centuries, you don't want to believe that "conversion" happened immediately, do you? The ones that ambraced Renaissence were Moors by blood. Yet, they could adjust to what was happening before their eyes.
No, it was an era of people in time, feeling and thinking a certain way, a way which lead to the expulsion of the Moorish culture.
cristina: Girl, if don't swear, you aint no Spanish!
I thought you emmigrated in adulthood? Do you feel Spanish?
Born in Spain from totally Spanish ancestors. I emmigrated to France aged 1. Always spoke Spanish at home (still speak Spanish with my parents but French with my brothers and sister)
I emmigrated to UK (from France) when I was just over 19. Speak English with my children and grandchildren.
I returned to Spain just over 3 years ago. Now I speak a different language with each generation of my family.
I feel Spanish enough to feel completely at home. Spanish music speaks to me more than any other. I feel English enough to miss contact with English people if I don't see any for a while. I feel French enough to jump right in when I'm with French people. The culture I have most affinity with is the Spanish one.
Conorco: Ok. Isn't freedom of religious expression a cornerstone of every democracy, i can understand how we (we have the same issue in ireland) can impose the laws of the land on foreigners but we can't force them nor should we to turn their back on their culture where it does not conflict with the law. I'd even say that sometimes we should look at changing the law to accommodate them.
Society's are constantly in flux from within and change is usually good. Foreigners offer prospects for more diversity and colour. I like the idea that due to the influx of foreigners our society will evolve in a more diversified way. We all have a tendency to resist change but i think thats motivated by fear.
cristinaLisbon, North Holland Netherlands17,243 posts
EagleWoman: Born in Spain from totally Spanish ancestors. I emmigrated to France aged 1. Always spoke Spanish at home (still speak Spanish with my parents but French with my brothers and sister)
I emmigrated to UK (from France) when I was just over 19. Speak English with my children and grandchildren.
I returned to Spain just over 3 years ago. Now I speak a different language with each generation of my family.
I feel Spanish enough to feel completely at home. Spanish music speaks to me more than any other. I feel English enough to miss contact with English people if I don't see any for a while. I feel French enough to jump right in when I'm with French people. The culture I have most affinity with is the Spanish one.
Thanks for asking Cris!!
How interesting!
I'm sure you feel Spanish because your household was Spanish. If one of your parents was of one of the countries you emmigrated to, you'd probably feel more afinity to that country. You've emmigrated in a crucial time in Spain. When we emmigrate in pain, it's hard to detach, even more when the recipient country tends to remind us that we are foreigners. Sorry to theorize. Just say I'm wrong and I'll go to sleep. It's 23 o'clock.
TrueBlue1986: I think that view is outdated, we are already massively tolerant and open to immigration. The problem now is retaining our own culture from the midst of so many others.
As for change, National Socialism was a change, Bolshevism was a change, Neo-Liberalism was a change. A change is not an endorsement because it is a change.
All cultures change over time or die, i suspect you're a member of a political party that wants to keep britan "british". Change is not an end its a point along the way, you can't hold it back. Britan will never be " British" again, ffs the national dish is chicken curry not roast beef & yorkshire pudding.
Conorco: All cultures change over time or die, i suspect you're a member of a political party that wants to keep britan "british". Change is not an end its a point along the way, you can't hold it back. Britan will never be " British" again, ffs the national dish is chicken curry not roast beef & yorkshire pudding.
And has been for many years.
Most Spanish people think it´s fish and chips btw.
cristinaLisbon, North Holland Netherlands17,243 posts
cristina: Oh, I was wrong! bed.
I never lived in Spain, dear. I'm also from Portugal, remember? So, we know more about you guys than probably the other way around.
The way Spanish people talk makes me wanna run away, even if they smile. I speak Spanish, so they say about my improvising. Nothing deep, though. Loved chatting here, guys.Tomorrow
Oh and that theory was pure statistics. I know it's difficult to admit that we've been given a hard time by the locals, but...I haven't in particular. I'm too Protestant for Portugal.
cristina: Oh and that theory was pure statistics. I know it's difficult to admit that we've been given a hard time by the locals, but...I haven't in particular. I'm too Protestant for Portugal.
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