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Apr 17, 2011 2:45 PM CST How to beat your wife
Malbarido
MalbaridoMalbaridoCyprus, Limassol Cyprus160 Posts
cristina: Oh, yeah? Now
They use sand bags so they don't leave marks and they beat them under their feet so they cannot walk to go out of the house again.
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Apr 17, 2011 2:48 PM CST How to beat your wife
solitare
solitaresolitareBariloche, Rio Negro Argentina40 Threads 4,041 Posts
"Conorco: Democracy is past its sell by date, its been hijacked by the rich and powerful and is the greatest mass delusion of the 20th & 21st century's"




Amen to that!applause
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Apr 17, 2011 2:51 PM CST How to beat your wife
Malbarido
MalbaridoMalbaridoCyprus, Limassol Cyprus160 Posts
solitare: "Conorco: Democracy is past its sell by date, its been hijacked by the rich and powerful and is the greatest mass delusion of the 20th & 21st century's"

Amen to that!
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Apr 17, 2011 2:51 PM CST How to beat your wife
TrueBlue1986
TrueBlue1986TrueBlue1986Sale, South Manchester, Cheshire, England UK1,322 Posts
cristina: The expelling of the Moors might have been induced by Renaissance and not that the Moors were the cause thereof.


I'm saying a culture needs the autonomy granted by independence to express such a cultural expression like the renaissance.
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Apr 17, 2011 3:06 PM CST How to beat your wife
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
Conorco: How could you know that, I get the feeling that you don't believe women are violent, i saw a documentary on it some time back and I was amazed.

In those cases the man even though far bigger and stronger he doesn't use that to defend himself because he isn't the violent type especially when a woman is involved. It wasn't as you've painted it, it was the opposite with the woman screaming, shouting, intimidating, goading followed by the violence.

if it was in a documentary it must be true


The scenarion I painted does not exclude the one you paint, neither is exclusif of the other ...

Do you really believe that 60% of the fights STARTED by women follow the pattern you describe? Personaly ... I don't ...

I once lived in a truly "dodgy" area (in the UK) for a few months. I got out of there fast because the violence I used to witness around me really truly upset me. It was usually at the weekend, and EVERY time, it was a man being verbally abusive and physically assaulting his partner. I forget the number of times I dialled emergency and/or offered support to the victim till help arrived.

I also knew of ONE women who was abusive verbally and physically to her husband and they used to end up in a huge fight were both gave as much as they took.
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Apr 17, 2011 3:07 PM CST How to beat your wife
TrueBlue1986
TrueBlue1986TrueBlue1986Sale, South Manchester, Cheshire, England UK1,322 Posts
cristina: Yes, that's why we need to let the muslims be.
Send everybody home? What's your plan?


No, make them understand that while they are in England they are Englishman first, and Muslim second.
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Apr 17, 2011 3:11 PM CST How to beat your wife
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
No, make them understand that while they are in England they are Englishman first, and Muslim second.[/quote

rolling on the floor laughing laugh rolling on the floor laughing

You mean like the British did when they colonised India?

they were Indian first and British second? Am I right?
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Apr 17, 2011 3:12 PM CST How to beat your wife
Malbarido
MalbaridoMalbaridoCyprus, Limassol Cyprus160 Posts
EagleWoman: No, make them understand that while they are in England they are Englishman first, and Muslim second.[/quote



You mean like the British did when they colonised India?

they were Indian first and British second? Am I right?
British didn't got a visa, these ones have.
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Apr 17, 2011 3:13 PM CST How to beat your wife
Conorco
ConorcoConorcoMaynooth, Kildare Ireland646 Posts
TrueBlue1986: No, make them understand that while they are in England they are Englishman first, and Muslim second.


Does that mean that Englishmen can't be muslims? Does every englishman have to be church of england and then catholic or muslim afterwards, how would that work? confused
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Apr 17, 2011 3:15 PM CST How to beat your wife
Conorco
ConorcoConorcoMaynooth, Kildare Ireland646 Posts
EagleWoman: The scenarion I painted does not exclude the one you paint, neither is exclusif of the other ...

Do you really believe that 60% of the fights STARTED by women follow the pattern you describe? Personaly ... I don't ...

I once lived in a truly "dodgy" area (in the UK) for a few months. I got out of there fast because the violence I used to witness around me really truly upset me. It was usually at the weekend, and EVERY time, it was a man being verbally abusive and physically assaulting his partner. I forget the number of times I dialled emergency and/or offered support to the victim till help arrived.

I also knew of ONE women who was abusive verbally and physically to her husband and they used to end up in a huge fight were both gave as much as they took.


I resign stuck
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Apr 17, 2011 3:16 PM CST How to beat your wife
2intrigued
2intrigued2intriguedMississauga, Ontario Canada11 Threads 18,576 Posts
Conorco: I resign


There is a God after all
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Apr 17, 2011 3:19 PM CST How to beat your wife
Conorco
ConorcoConorcoMaynooth, Kildare Ireland646 Posts
2intrigued: There is a God after all


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Apr 17, 2011 3:23 PM CST How to beat your wife
cristina
cristinacristinaLisbon, North Holland Netherlands286 Threads 10 Polls 17,243 Posts
solitare: Spain's 're-conquest' really began with Rodrigo Diaz de Vivar, aka El Cid and with his taking the Moorish city of Valencia in May of 1094 with the help of Moors from inside, Valencia became the first fully integrated Christian-Muslim city in Europe ; others also followed like Granada. Most established both secular as well as 'religious' courts to hear cases like religious intolerance and defamtion' ie, cases of Muslim extremists or like the Rev. Jones burning copies of the Koran, etc. Legal experts from both the Vatican and Mecca advised both local religious courts and their councilors. The system seemed to work well and encouraged a better mutual understanding of each other without any need to break down any aspects of cultural heritage and all religions as well as ethnic and religious heritage, including the Jews were made law, unlike in a democracy that respects no one's culture or heritage, but does, nevertheless allow for the fall of the historical and dominant culture/ Race by disallowing their basic rights to opt out of anything they perceive as a threat to their existence by immigrants of a totally different culture, history and Race. People have a right not to be 'politically correct' just as much as people expect to be treated equally under secular laws. Under the old 'Zone' system, as revised under the foreign policies of National Socialist Germany, secular laws would be more or less the same across the Zones that defined the territories of different peoples, their cultures, ethnic and racial integrity. This factor was one reason tens of thousands of Muslims joined the Waffen SS fought and died beside their European comrades with the blessings of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem,Haj Amin al-Husseini, spiritual leader of the Islamic world. ; other reasons, of course, but with the sole exception of the Jewish question and Palestine, there were no real problems with Islam. The Turks were the only Muslims that dissented in favour of a more secular outlook; they still do today...dissent is generally a good thing to make others think.
The primary reason for the Zones would /was to protect all the various peoples, their heritage and their unique identity. Perhaps that also should be re-examined for all our sakes...


Solitare, it's 22 o'clock. Could you please lower the level?rolling on the floor laughing
Anyway, I don't think I will be able to refute the idea of democracy not being able to sustain multiculturalism within your context. But democracy today, in my opinion, doesn't have to do with economics, at least not with its prosperity. Take China and other rich and peaceful countries that don't practise democracy or at least not in its original form.
Democracy is used to have economics dug in. Economics beg for social classe. Social classes need visual differences to survive and history has determined who is who. But the world is changing now, that brings panic with it. Dominance is being lost. Not that it is being detrimental, just that power is being levelled. The weary lies on threat of losing control. That originates demise of other cultures.

Religion lost influence in modern societies. If there are any bestseller books aiming at religion, they aim at skepticism on its origins. So...
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Apr 17, 2011 3:26 PM CST How to beat your wife
TrueBlue1986: Your civil liberties are safeguarded in law as long as you remain the majority. Learn from Europe, if Islam takes to America as it has done to Europe you will one day become the minority. Democracy and law will then act against your interests and your culture.


that is not possible as minority interests and freedom of worship are protected by law. Civil Liberties and freedom of worship belong to all in the US.

I seriously doubt Islam can gain a strong foothold here as we are at war with Islamic nations. We need no lessons from Europe - they coucld and should learn from uswave
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Apr 17, 2011 3:26 PM CST How to beat your wife
TrueBlue1986
TrueBlue1986TrueBlue1986Sale, South Manchester, Cheshire, England UK1,322 Posts
Conorco: Does that mean that Englishmen can't be muslims? Does every englishman have to be church of england and then catholic or muslim afterwards, how would that work?


To accept civil/public values above religious values, that's what it means.
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Apr 17, 2011 3:28 PM CST How to beat your wife
TrueBlue1986
TrueBlue1986TrueBlue1986Sale, South Manchester, Cheshire, England UK1,322 Posts
felixis99: that is not possible as minority interests and freedom of worship are protected by law. Civil Liberties and freedom of worship belong to all in the US.

I seriously doubt Islam can gain a strong foothold here as we are at war with Islamic nations. We need no lessons from Europe - they coucld and should learn from us


So is England.
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Apr 17, 2011 3:30 PM CST How to beat your wife
richfrench
richfrenchrichfrenchTexas, Paris, Ile-de-France France21 Posts
Am I the only who cares or notices that Sade88 has left CS? Sad that she was run off by whomever.
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Apr 17, 2011 3:32 PM CST How to beat your wife
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
Malbarido: British didn't got a visa, these ones have.


British didn't have a visa? doh doh Too true!!! They weren't even invited!!!
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Apr 17, 2011 3:35 PM CST How to beat your wife
cristina
cristinacristinaLisbon, North Holland Netherlands286 Threads 10 Polls 17,243 Posts
TrueBlue1986: I'm saying a culture needs the autonomy granted by independence to express such a cultural expression like the renaissance.


Yes, freedom needs to be celebrated. But you are not inferring that only when the Moors left, Renaissence was able to be inhaled? After 7 centuries, you don't want to believe that "conversion" happened immediately, do you? The ones that ambraced Renaissence were Moors by blood. Yet, they could adjust to what was happening before their eyes.
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Apr 17, 2011 3:35 PM CST How to beat your wife
Conorco
ConorcoConorcoMaynooth, Kildare Ireland646 Posts
TrueBlue1986: To accept civil/public values above religious values, that's what it means.


Ok. Isn't freedom of religious expression a cornerstone of every democracy, i can understand how we (we have the same issue in ireland) can impose the laws of the land on foreigners but we can't force them nor should we to turn their back on their culture where it does not conflict with the law. I'd even say that sometimes we should look at changing the law to accommodate them.

Society's are constantly in flux from within and change is usually good. Foreigners offer prospects for more diversity and colour. I like the idea that due to the influx of foreigners our society will evolve in a more diversified way. We all have a tendency to resist change but i think thats motivated by fear.
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