I haven't watched the link because I can't and I haven't read the whole thread yet.
In the UK up until 1972, (so 15 years after my mother married, 5 years after I was born), it was legal to beat your wife with a stick, as long as a the stick was no thicker than your thumb. Its just as well my old man's a gentle soul - he has hands the size of dinner plates.
I remember the afforementioned old man coming home from work one day positively bristling. My dad rarely showed emotion, or said anything, but there had been a murder case in the law courts where he worked. A man had beaten his partner to death, but only got 6 months because of the law of provocation - his partner had put put the ketchup in the wrong place on the table and it was deemed acceptable that a man can lose his temper, lose control.
At about this time, there were women going to jail for life for retaliating and defending themselves against their violent partners. It was assumed that if a woman kills it must be calculated because that's what women are like.
Women always calculate, but men can lose their cool.
I'm not condoning any violence, but I object to the self-righteous, holier-than-though attitude that we very often see in the West, thinking that we are so much more advanced and sophisticated than in the East.
Unless we are prepared to look at our own faults as well, its just plain prejudice and propaganda.
Crazily, it where the saying " the rule of thumb" came from... Christians have many many skeletons in their closets too ya know
serene56: Neither, and I hope you're joking. Ha ha.
Any man who beats on a woman is a low, cowardly creature and not fit to be called a man.
I'm not joking at all, I don't condone violence of any kind but maybe the muslim system is more practical and favorable to women than ours in that they recognize that some men will beat their wife's and legislate to control the level of that beating. If a man breaks their laws maybe (i don't know) they enforce the penalty for breaking the law.
If as it seems they adhere to the Koran then they probably do punish men or men who do beat their wife's do it by the book i.e a humane beating (maybe the word beating is not appropriate maybe its akin to how kids are chastised). How many western women still beat their kids and feel justified in doing so?
On the other hand the west outlaws it completely yet it still goes, again I don't know but I imagine when it does go on its a full blooded assault and i'd say very few cases end up in court.
So if I was a woman living with a wife beater i'd prefer to be a muslim or that he was.
blarneykite: How to beat your wife? Regularly and with a big stick Rather amazingly in excess of 60% of domestic violence incidents are started by WOMEN
In what country is it ok for a woman to beat her husband, where there's a rule/law that states she can? Just a question?
These matters should work both ways, should they not??
blarneykite: How to beat your wife? Regularly and with a big stick Rather amazingly in excess of 60% of domestic violence incidents are started by WOMEN
Don't be ridiculous, women are always the victim, its beyond them to be responsible for any of the evil in the world. Don't be trying to stir it up.
cristinaLisbon, North Holland Netherlands17,243 posts
cristina: Catholics the most!
Up to this date. The more macho, the less you need to repeal your animal instincts. How many macho oriented sociaties do we have in non-middle eastern world? If a woman has to live to her man, if marriage remains a status, a lot tends to be endured in it. Adding the pshycos that increase everyday in this unbarebly, scary, competitive, materialistic world.
AmityDodging Daggers, Wiltshire, England UK6,217 posts
Conorco: Don't be ridiculous, women are always the victim, its beyond them to be responsible for any of the evil in the world. Don't be trying to stir it up.
Actually hes right. People always assume the woman is the victim in domestic violence but its shocking to know its around the same percentage for men.
Whatever the gender, its a awful situation to live in.
blarneykite: How to beat your wife? Regularly and with a big stick Rather amazingly in excess of 60% of domestic violence incidents are started by WOMEN
Could you please clarify what yo mean by 60% of domestic voilence incidents are started by women..ie; do they hit the man first?
Conorco: Don't be ridiculous, women are always the victim, its beyond them to be responsible for any of the evil in the world. Don't be trying to stir it up.
Amity: Actually hes right. People always assume the woman is the victim in domestic violence but its shocking to know its around the same percentage for men.Whatever the gender, its a awful situation to live in.
blarneykite: Yes, these are figures from studies ALL OVER THE WORLD,
USA Europe Australia
and most western societies
That's not to say that women don't end up worse from the violence... but yeah more DV incidents are initated by women striking first
Domestic voilence is wrong no matter who is doing the striking or starts the striking. Be it man or woman. It takes a long time to recover from. I know lm one of the 40%, thats why my ex is my ex.
Having done a large amount of research, it is sadly true... shame that the gardai don't do the same research and then stop arresting men at every DV incident
blarneykite: Having done a large amount of research, it is sadly true... shame that the gardai don't do the same research and then stop arresting men at every DV incident
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I haven't watched the link because I can't and I haven't read the whole thread yet.
In the UK up until 1972, (so 15 years after my mother married, 5 years after I was born), it was legal to beat your wife with a stick, as long as a the stick was no thicker than your thumb.
Its just as well my old man's a gentle soul - he has hands the size of dinner plates.
I remember the afforementioned old man coming home from work one day positively bristling. My dad rarely showed emotion, or said anything, but there had been a murder case in the law courts where he worked. A man had beaten his partner to death, but only got 6 months because of the law of provocation - his partner had put put the ketchup in the wrong place on the table and it was deemed acceptable that a man can lose his temper, lose control.
At about this time, there were women going to jail for life for retaliating and defending themselves against their violent partners. It was assumed that if a woman kills it must be calculated because that's what women are like.
Women always calculate, but men can lose their cool.
I'm not condoning any violence, but I object to the self-righteous, holier-than-though attitude that we very often see in the West, thinking that we are so much more advanced and sophisticated than in the East.
Unless we are prepared to look at our own faults as well, its just plain prejudice and propaganda.
Crazily, it where the saying " the rule of thumb" came from... Christians have many many skeletons in their closets too ya know