How to beat your wife (366)
I wounder if Brad Pitt has a brother Arm?
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Being in these threads is going to get me tons of dates, I just know it.
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kidatheart: I agree 100%.
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Sade88: I think religion is a personal thing
As it should be, yet it seems to rear it's ugly head in all avenues of life, as we see on this very thread.
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kidatheart: As it should be, yet it seems to rear it's ugly head in all avenues of life, as we see on this very thread.
Yeah It is so disturbing to know that in 21 centuries people get executed just because of their system of believes. There was another video that they are saying women should not be allowed driving, and so on. It is just hard to even imagine that there are people who have to live by those laws. But the question is we know those things, why are are roles as human beings!!?------ This thread is Archived ------
Sade88: Yeah It is so disturbing to know that in 21 centuries people get executed just because of their system of believes. There was another video that they are saying women should not be allowed driving, and so on. It is just hard to even imagine that there are people who have to live by those laws. But the question is we know those things, why are are roles as human beings!!?
If the woman driving have cell phones I see their point.
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mastic55: If the woman driving have cell phones I see their point.
I agree
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Conorco: There is a good argument being advocated for legalising drugs so that there use can be controlled. That is not to say that people en mass agree with drug use but the fact is that they will be used whether they are legal or not.
Wife beating is common through out the world, until some miracle happens that stops the practise isn't it better that it be regulated so that if it is done it's done in a humane way.
I bet many muslim men would be as horrified at the idea of beating up their wife's as many western men.
I don't know what the situation is with those muslims who do beat their wife's but maybe they obey the regulations and administer what they call "a light beating" whereas as we know men in the "civilised" west beat the crap out of them.
Which is best?
Wife beating is common through out the world, until some miracle happens that stops the practise isn't it better that it be regulated so that if it is done it's done in a humane way.
I bet many muslim men would be as horrified at the idea of beating up their wife's as many western men.
I don't know what the situation is with those muslims who do beat their wife's but maybe they obey the regulations and administer what they call "a light beating" whereas as we know men in the "civilised" west beat the crap out of them.
Which is best?
Neither, and I hope you're joking. Ha ha.
Any man who beats on a woman is a low, cowardly creature and not fit to be called a man.
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No need to see the clip; I've known a few too many stupid Western women who ran off to marry in one Islamic country or another and they had to pay a very heavy price to get out alive and in one piece. Having to get them out and their children or go go back and get them is just not the smart thing to do. The worst countries? Try Egypt and a few of the Gulf states and Brunei is the worst of all.
Hollywood images of the 'Romance' of living in the countries of 'the Arabian Nights'...right.
Hollywood images of the 'Romance' of living in the countries of 'the Arabian Nights'...right.
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Sade88: Hi there,
Well you are discussing the " beating up " of the women as a human behavior, regardless of the system of believes, or culture which I totally agree with you. But if a Jewish women gets beaten up by her husband, the law support the husband behavior !? I highly doubt it.
Ans as to teaching of Quran, unfortunately I don't recall the verse, but it is clearly stated in the Quran that men can beat their wives and what they are supped to use, for doing that.
Also exceptions always exists, we are not talking bout exceptions. Thank you again for your reply
Peace
Well you are discussing the " beating up " of the women as a human behavior, regardless of the system of believes, or culture which I totally agree with you. But if a Jewish women gets beaten up by her husband, the law support the husband behavior !? I highly doubt it.
Ans as to teaching of Quran, unfortunately I don't recall the verse, but it is clearly stated in the Quran that men can beat their wives and what they are supped to use, for doing that.
Also exceptions always exists, we are not talking bout exceptions. Thank you again for your reply
Peace
I"m sorry miss Sade I didn't agree with some of your point in here
Ans as to teaching of Quran, unfortunately I don't recall the verse, but it is clearly stated in the Quran that men can beat their wives and what they are supped to use, for doing that
maybe this can bit explain how in Islam woman so high position
From Surah Al-Nisa 4:19
"Islam honors women as wives. Islam urges the husband to treat his wife in a good and kind manner, and says that the wife has rights over the husband like his rights over her, except that he has a degree over her, because of his responsibility of spending and taking care of the family’s affairs. Islam states that the best of the Muslim men is the one who treats his wife in the best manner, and the man is forbidden to take his wife’s money without her approval. Allaah says:“and live with them honorably” [al-Nisa’ 4:19]"
an other one :
“And they (women) have rights (over their husbands) similar (to those of their husbands) over them (as regards obedience and respect) to what is reasonable, but men have a degree (of responsibility) over them. And Allaah is All-Mighty, All-Wise” [al-Baqarah 2:228]
The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said: “I urge you to treat women well.” [Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 331; Muslim, 1468]
And the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said: “The best of you is the one who is best to his wife, and I am the best of you to my wives.” [al-Tirmidhi, 3895]
So woman in islam eyes like:
The mother in Islam has a very valued position, nobody has it at all. “The paradise is under her feet”, due to how she suffers during pregnancy, delivering, upbringing, and being concerned about every detail that makes her family being happy. Her children must respect her, and work hard to please her. They have to do this more and more when she gets old, and reward her for all the things she did to them and not throwing her in elderly institutions without even asking about her.
And I think what ever man who can't respect a woman then we can't call his a man. No matter from where or religion, its happen in any level or religion so its back to them self. Can a man love & respect a woman that he lives with?
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A real man doesn't beat his wife, he has no right to , he should love her and cherish her.
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omg 
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romanticman4u: A real man doesn't beat his wife, he has no right to , he should love her and cherish her.
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If you find this disturbing, watch "The Stoning of Soroya M". That'll make you cry for a week.
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Sade88: Hi there;
Thank you for your response, as you said it is all about awareness, as you said this is happening in every culture, there are men who are physically abused, but like I said , at least in western countries, they can go to jail for it. But in the middle east even if they kill the women they don't go to jail , let alone beating them up.
I think this is an issue that needs to be talked about
Thank you for your response, as you said it is all about awareness, as you said this is happening in every culture, there are men who are physically abused, but like I said , at least in western countries, they can go to jail for it. But in the middle east even if they kill the women they don't go to jail , let alone beating them up.
I think this is an issue that needs to be talked about
Hi Sade.
I haven't watched the link because I can't and I haven't read the whole thread yet.
In the UK up until 1972, (so 15 years after my mother married, 5 years after I was born), it was legal to beat your wife with a stick, as long as a the stick was no thicker than your thumb.
Its just as well my old man's a gentle soul - he has hands the size of dinner plates.
I remember the afforementioned old man coming home from work one day positively bristling. My dad rarely showed emotion, or said anything, but there had been a murder case in the law courts where he worked. A man had beaten his partner to death, but only got 6 months because of the law of provocation - his partner had put put the ketchup in the wrong place on the table and it was deemed acceptable that a man can lose his temper, lose control.
At about this time, there were women going to jail for life for retaliating and defending themselves against their violent partners. It was assumed that if a woman kills it must be calculated because that's what women are like.
Women always calculate, but men can lose their cool.
I'm not condoning any violence, but I object to the self-righteous, holier-than-though attitude that we very often see in the West, thinking that we are so much more advanced and sophisticated than in the East.
Unless we are prepared to look at our own faults as well, its just plain prejudice and propaganda.
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jac379: Hi Sade.
I haven't watched the link because I can't and I haven't read the whole thread yet.
In the UK up until 1972, (so 15 years after my mother married, 5 years after I was born), it was legal to beat your wife with a stick, as long as a the stick was no thicker than your thumb.
Its just as well my old man's a gentle soul - he has hands the size of dinner plates.
I remember the afforementioned old man coming home from work one day positively bristling. My dad rarely showed emotion, or said anything, but there had been a murder case in the law courts where he worked. A man had beaten his partner to death, but only got 6 months because of the law of provocation - his partner had put put the ketchup in the wrong place on the table and it was deemed acceptable that a man can lose his temper, lose control.
At about this time, there were women going to jail for life for retaliating and defending themselves against their violent partners. It was assumed that if a woman kills it must be calculated because that's what women are like.
Women always calculate, but men can lose their cool.
I'm not condoning any violence, but I object to the self-righteous, holier-than-though attitude that we very often see in the West, thinking that we are so much more advanced and sophisticated than in the East.
Unless we are prepared to look at our own faults as well, its just plain prejudice and propaganda.
I haven't watched the link because I can't and I haven't read the whole thread yet.
In the UK up until 1972, (so 15 years after my mother married, 5 years after I was born), it was legal to beat your wife with a stick, as long as a the stick was no thicker than your thumb.
Its just as well my old man's a gentle soul - he has hands the size of dinner plates.
I remember the afforementioned old man coming home from work one day positively bristling. My dad rarely showed emotion, or said anything, but there had been a murder case in the law courts where he worked. A man had beaten his partner to death, but only got 6 months because of the law of provocation - his partner had put put the ketchup in the wrong place on the table and it was deemed acceptable that a man can lose his temper, lose control.
At about this time, there were women going to jail for life for retaliating and defending themselves against their violent partners. It was assumed that if a woman kills it must be calculated because that's what women are like.
Women always calculate, but men can lose their cool.
I'm not condoning any violence, but I object to the self-righteous, holier-than-though attitude that we very often see in the West, thinking that we are so much more advanced and sophisticated than in the East.
Unless we are prepared to look at our own faults as well, its just plain prejudice and propaganda.
My point.
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cristina: My point.
And in the NL, not before the 80's was it criminalizes-law wise- to beat a woman.
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cristina: And in the NL, not before the 80's was it criminalizes-law wise- to beat a woman.
Wife, I mean
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All I can tell you is that conspiracy theorists from the US itself, believe that 9/11 was an inside job..I remain skeptical about any political issue as I think that all governments are corrupt one way or the other.
And in reply to your question will I date you?
You could be Brad Pitt for all I care..but if you talk about blowing up 47 Islamic countries with a population of 1.2-1.6 Billion then HELL NO!
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