Removing chemicals and minerals from water...solutions?? (49)

Sep 9, 2011 8:33 AM CST Removing chemicals and minerals from water...solutions??
venere08
venere08venere08Puglia and Autumn, South Australia Australia121 Threads 2 Polls 9,996 Posts
pebblesinastream: we usedto use one of the clay water purifiers that are still on the market,so they must be good, and they seemed to take out the impurities that are in the rain water asit runs down the roof,which contains bird droppings and dust etc


Yes, I still see the clay water purifiers around, even in hardware stores. Great for small scale drinking water and to fill up the kettle.
Love tea and coffee made with rainwater.

cheers
Sep 9, 2011 8:41 AM CST Removing chemicals and minerals from water...solutions??
revealer24
revealer24revealer24Arundel, Queensland Australia62 Threads 985 Posts
venere08: I am getting kinda confused now. Maybe they can manufacture a product with bits of everything!!


There are three major types of water purifiers. These are all combined with mechanical filters.

1. Active charcoal - absorbs various pollutants out of the water as the water passes through this filter. 100% of the water is purified.
2. Reverse osmosis - water under pressure is forced through a very fine membrane and leaves behind all minerals and pollutants. About 15-25% of water is purified, the rest is waste.
3. Ion exchange - there is a resin that removes contaminants from the water, mainly minerals. 100% of the water is purified. This gives you similar quality water than reverse osmosis, but it will have a slight resin taste :-) Ion exchange purified water is used in laboratories.

Most often these are used in combination, you have 1+3 or 1+3 in the same unit. Keep in mind that the above is a very simplified description.

If you ask me, the tastiest water is produced by reverse osmosis, but it lacks the minerals you supposed to receive with water, so a water filter like Aquasana, which would be type (1) kind, produces better water (by not removing the minerals - though it doesn't taste as good as the water produced by reverse osmosis systems).

But you need to do your own research, this is just my own opinion based on what I read so far. And I am not the pope :-)
Sep 9, 2011 8:43 AM CST Removing chemicals and minerals from water...solutions??
revealer24
revealer24revealer24Arundel, Queensland Australia62 Threads 985 Posts
pebblesinastream: we usedto use one of the clay water purifiers that are still on the market,so they must be good, and they seemed to take out the impurities that are in the rain water asit runs down the roof,which contains bird droppings and dust etc


Bird droppings provide the flavour for that filtered water :-)
Sep 9, 2011 8:56 AM CST Removing chemicals and minerals from water...solutions??
Martia
MartiaMartiabenalla, Victoria Australia141 Threads 1 Polls 2,888 Posts
I agree with Rev about these scientific claims.

Its like the that thing you plug into the the wall....... it guarantee's it will keep mice away, if that was true the farmers would be saved from the mouse plague by having a few in the barns doh

We dont just get scams online.

Anyway Ven it might be a good idea to go to an outlet that deals with pumps bores and filters as bore water in limestone country is full of calcium, they have filters to stop it getting through....
if my memory serves me right the filter has to be cleaned and rinsed every month to keep the water flowing cleanly..
Sep 9, 2011 8:59 AM CST Removing chemicals and minerals from water...solutions??
venere08
venere08venere08Puglia and Autumn, South Australia Australia121 Threads 2 Polls 9,996 Posts
revealer24: There are three major types of water purifiers. These are all combined with mechanical filters.

1. Active charcoal - absorbs various pollutants out of the water as the water passes through this filter. 100% of the water is purified.
2. Reverse osmosis - water under pressure is forced through a very fine membrane and leaves behind all minerals and pollutants. About 15-25% of water is purified, the rest is waste.
3. Ion exchange - there is a resin that removes contaminants from the water, mainly minerals. 100% of the water is purified. This gives you similar quality water than reverse osmosis, but it will have a slight resin taste :-) Ion exchange purified water is used in laboratories.

Most often these are used in combination, you have 1+3 or 1+3 in the same unit. Keep in mind that the above is a very simplified description.

If you ask me, the tastiest water is produced by reverse osmosis, but it lacks the minerals you supposed to receive with water, so a water filter like Aquasana, which would be type (1) kind, produces better water (by not removing the minerals - though it doesn't taste as good as the water produced by reverse osmosis systems).

But you need to do your own research, this is just my own opinion based on what I read so far. And I am not the pope :-)


Thanks for summarising the options in a way I can understand.laugh

Agreed...we do need some minerals from the water we drink and maybe cook with, but not for clothes washing and in the bathroom.
So it will mean researching products for different needs and uses.
At least I know of more options than I ever did before.

Thanks to all who responded. cheers
wave
p.s. it's really strange washing the floor and washing dishes with spring water from nearby natural springs, in that region of Italy.

There is a tiny spring just outside the town where I was born, where people come 24/7 and fill up their bottles, sometimes a car boot full...it's been flowing for centuries. The water comes from a larger spring miles away. No-one could actually tell me wehre...but it flows day and night, with most of it just running down the road!! I can't help feeling it is such a shame that precious water goes to waste.
Sep 9, 2011 9:02 AM CST Removing chemicals and minerals from water...solutions??
pebblesinastream
pebblesinastreampebblesinastreamyarra valley, Victoria Australia5 Threads 449 Posts
revealer24: Bird droppings provide the flavour for that filtered water :-)
Sep 9, 2011 9:02 AM CST Removing chemicals and minerals from water...solutions??
venere08
venere08venere08Puglia and Autumn, South Australia Australia121 Threads 2 Polls 9,996 Posts
revealer24: Bird droppings provide the flavour for that filtered water :-)


At my place, it would then have a eucalyptus flavour as the birds are mainly lorikeets feeding off the river red gumnuts!!laugh
Sep 9, 2011 9:04 AM CST Removing chemicals and minerals from water...solutions??
venere08
venere08venere08Puglia and Autumn, South Australia Australia121 Threads 2 Polls 9,996 Posts
Martia: I agree with Rev about these scientific claims.

Its like the that thing you plug into the the wall....... it guarantee's it will keep mice away, if that was true the farmers would be saved from the mouse plague by having a few in the barns

We dont just get scams online.

Anyway Ven it might be a good idea to go to an outlet that deals with pumps bores and filters as bore water in limestone country is full of calcium, they have filters to stop it getting through....
if my memory serves me right the filter has to be cleaned and rinsed every month to keep the water flowing cleanly..


Thanks, Martia...I won't bother buying that sonic pest contol plug in thingy. laugh
Sep 9, 2011 9:06 AM CST Removing chemicals and minerals from water...solutions??
pebblesinastream
pebblesinastreampebblesinastreamyarra valley, Victoria Australia5 Threads 449 Posts
simple answer is dont drink town water ,get a rainwater tankwith inline filter
Sep 9, 2011 5:13 PM CST Removing chemicals and minerals from water...solutions??
venere08
venere08venere08Puglia and Autumn, South Australia Australia121 Threads 2 Polls 9,996 Posts
pebblesinastream: simple answer is dont drink town water ,get a rainwater tankwith inline filter


Rainwater tanks are a good idea, too, especially with the downpours we've had this winter...It's hard to think that the Birdsville Track could ever be flooded out, but it was this year!

wine
Sep 9, 2011 5:55 PM CST Removing chemicals and minerals from water...solutions??
revealer24
revealer24revealer24Arundel, Queensland Australia62 Threads 985 Posts
venere08: There is a tiny spring just outside the town where I was born, where people come 24/7 and fill up their bottles, sometimes a car boot full...


Looks like Italians make cars with water tight car boots... rolling on the floor laughing
Sep 9, 2011 6:02 PM CST Removing chemicals and minerals from water...solutions??
revealer24
revealer24revealer24Arundel, Queensland Australia62 Threads 985 Posts
venere08: Thanks, Martia...I won't bother buying that sonic pest contol plug in thingy.


These sonic pest controls supposedly work by producing ultrasound we cannot hear but pests are annoyed by. I don't know what scientific evidence there is to backup this claim, all I know is that we bought one in the previous place (plugged it in in the garage) and had very few cockroaches. I brought it with me to my current place, and haven't seen a single cockroach in the garage since the day after I moved in. I used to get a lot more cockroaches before.
Sep 9, 2011 6:48 PM CST Removing chemicals and minerals from water...solutions??
Martia
MartiaMartiabenalla, Victoria Australia141 Threads 1 Polls 2,888 Posts
pebblesinastream: simple answer is dont drink town water ,get a rainwater tankwith inline filter


Of course.frustrated doh
Sep 9, 2011 6:54 PM CST Removing chemicals and minerals from water...solutions??
Martia
MartiaMartiabenalla, Victoria Australia141 Threads 1 Polls 2,888 Posts
revealer24: Looks like Italians make cars with water tight car boots...


Only the Fiat's innocent rolling on the floor laughing
Sep 9, 2011 6:59 PM CST Removing chemicals and minerals from water...solutions??
Martia
MartiaMartiabenalla, Victoria Australia141 Threads 1 Polls 2,888 Posts
revealer24: These sonic pest controls supposedly work by producing ultrasound we cannot hear but pests are annoyed by. I don't know what scientific evidence there is to backup this claim, all I know is that we bought one in the previous place (plugged it in in the garage) and had very few cockroaches. I brought it with me to my current place, and haven't seen a single cockroach in the garage since the day after I moved in. I used to get a lot more cockroaches before.


Interesting....cant argue with that ....but mammal's No.
Sep 9, 2011 9:39 PM CST Removing chemicals and minerals from water...solutions??
wash2u
wash2uwash2uMelbourne, Victoria Australia79 Threads 1 Polls 3,768 Posts
The people I know around Adelaide have 3 taps in the kitchen, normal hot and cold from the mains plus one from the rainwater tank. And if you are woried about bird droppings and airbourne pollutants, a simple filter at the tap is always good. Many filter systems around, especially in Adelaide.

When I was travelling around southwest Qld, the billy always had a salt line. We simply boiled the water and never drank stuff off the bottom. And before sleep, we boiled up a couple of billys and let the salts settle overnight.
Sep 14, 2011 9:22 AM CST Removing chemicals and minerals from water...solutions??
venere08
venere08venere08Puglia and Autumn, South Australia Australia121 Threads 2 Polls 9,996 Posts
wash2u: The people I know around Adelaide have 3 taps in the kitchen, normal hot and cold from the mains plus one from the rainwater tank. And if you are woried about bird droppings and airbourne pollutants, a simple filter at the tap is always good. Many filter systems around, especially in Adelaide.

When I was travelling around southwest Qld, the billy always had a salt line. We simply boiled the water and never drank stuff off the bottom. And before sleep, we boiled up a couple of billys and let the salts settle overnight.


Thanks wash2, though I know what is available around Adelaide. My original question related to a device and its suitability for an o/s location, as the company delivers internationally. In respect to this, one of revealer's posts alerted me to further research needed. Way too much money to throw away if it were an engineering hoax.

cheers
Sep 16, 2011 6:01 PM CST Removing chemicals and minerals from water...solutions??
Lookin4missright
Lookin4missrightLookin4missrightmelbourne, Victoria Australia400 Threads 24,032 Posts
venere08: I wonder if anyone here has heard of, or better still, used this system of removing harsh minerals and chemicals from your water supply.

What are your thoughts and if you have used it, would you recommend it or maybe another brand/type?

I am considering installing it o/s to address the high calcium content in the water used. It creates havoc in the pipes.



Much appreciated. Thanks.


WISH S/ONE WOULD TAKE THE ALCOHOL OUT OF ALCOHOL blues


OOOOOOOOOH MY ACHING HEAD doh
Sep 16, 2011 6:04 PM CST Removing chemicals and minerals from water...solutions??
AgentAjax
AgentAjaxAgentAjaxBrisbane, Queensland Australia81 Threads 1 Polls 3,965 Posts
venere08: I wonder if anyone here has heard of, or better still, used this system of removing harsh minerals and chemicals from your water supply.

What are your thoughts and if you have used it, would you recommend it or maybe another brand/type?

I am considering installing it o/s to address the high calcium content in the water used. It creates havoc in the pipes.



Much appreciated. Thanks.
Chemicals are good for you! All you need to make them sound great is change the name from toxins to medicine. grin
Sep 16, 2011 7:49 PM CST Removing chemicals and minerals from water...solutions??
Merriweather
MerriweatherMerriweatherAdelaide, South Australia Australia51 Threads 11,403 Posts
Lookin4missright: WISH S/ONE WOULD TAKE THE ALCOHOL OUT OF ALCOHOL OOOOOOOOOH MY ACHING HEAD



Do you need another head rub...comfort comfort

On a serious note... I had a Hydrosmart installed years ago... It changes the chemical composition of the water .. for a start, I could not handle the smell of chlorine that came out in the shower and the inside taps, so that I never smell anymore, and secondly, I did not want my electrical appliances being ruined by hard water... I have a reverse osmosis system, but its installed in the laundry, because I did not want a third tap in the kitchen. Yes, its nice water to drink... and the amount of waste water is very small... less that a toilet flush... but there are filters and membrane to change.. so its not a cheap thing to use. On the other hand.. the Hydrosmart sits outside on the wall next to the hot water tank, and is connected after the tank. I have never had to touch it or have anything done to it since Ihad it installed.
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