i am the root, god is the tree. who am i to worship and what for ( Archived) (26)

if this was from a bible''errr''maybe it trying to say that we are a reflection of 'god'
''made in his image''
as the trees roots below earth, reflects the stems and leaves above? ''type of metaphor''

to try to answer your question, in my opinion,
without the earth as our home, what do we have really?=zip
its our garden that reflects human existence, common ground we all share,
i say we worship the planet, the true ''mother'' that gives life to all things
but hey thats just me, ha ha!

hi...you are right... mother earth gave us the environmemt....to be what we are today.........(evolution of the species)....

The quote is nonsense. A circular arguments that gets you neither wisdom or understanding, nor knowledge. It's like the chicken and egg question... which came first.

You need a tree to produce seed. You need the seed to grow a root and you need a root to grow a tree and you need a tree to produce a seed bla bla bla round and round we go.

To apply it to religion, it's the same thing. Which came first, god or man. Same argument.

What would god be without man and more interestingly, what if god died a century ago.

Sometimes people try to sound profound or wise and then they end up saying nonsense like that. My advice, forget that statement. There are better ones out there

All Koans are nonsense on the surface. The implied paradox is what is important to the enlightenment contained within. Trite and pat answers to such an infinite regression are thereby missing the whole point, and no wisdom is gained from such platitudinous solutions.

We are not computers to get locked into a logical loop. Intuition is what saves us from this infinite loop. At some point we go, "Both!" and move beyond the words and accept the balance between the polarites that is the "Now".

What came first is not important. What comes next isn't either. What is happening right now is where wisdom lies.

Underneath the disk of the world are four elephants supporting the disk. Underneath the elephants is a giant turtle. What's underneath the turtle?

It's turtles all the way down!

thanks to everyone for your replies and opinions... all comments is appreciated... i just want to start positive debate and see different view points.. thanks again

Are you saying the chicken and the egg were there at the same time?

I really fail to see wisdom in intuition. Intuition is nothing more than guesswork, hunches, gut feelings. I am not saying there isn't a time and place for it, nor am I saying it doesn't exist, but I do not see how wisdom is gained from it or how it saves one from the logic, or rather lack of logic in a circular argument and thus somehow makes nonsense plausible.

In a circular argument, the beginning and end truly are not important, so I agree with you (hence my argument that it's nonsense). As to what matters now being important, I also agree, however there is no answer to that.. certainly not on a logical plane. So the value, if I understand you correctly, is in what intuition tells you about each of the separate arguments that comprise the circular argument? ... if that is so, then one basically answer each statement with whatever they want and claim it makes sense to them and therefore the thinker becomes enlightened. Hmm... nope.. not buying that one.

Tell me, what do you think "enlightment" is.