Republicans kill prison officer .. (201)

Phoenix: Unfortunatly the reality is very different. Former members of the RUC and Special branch have not only been re-hired but also work with HET<--renders their investigations questionable. Even this week a mother is opening up a civil case against the HET for the very reasons I've said..
Didn't the very fore-fathers you alluded to in a previous post believe in an armed struggle?? What part of armed struggle do you believe in? Again at least 254 innocent people died during the 1916 rising (no connection to either Irish Republicans or the British died as a direct result of armed struggle). But you 'salute' Pearse, Conolloy etc as heros?? They belived in armed struggle...
The only ones you can compare..For myself personally..sectarnian violence is wrong no matter what era..
Again the people you speak of wanted irieland for the irish with out british involement..Period. The fact 254 innoncent people died seems to have gone AWOL on your radar somewhere. Don't tell me otr ithers that Collins, Pearse etc didn't understand the real chance of Irish people getting caught up in the events of 1916 was certain.

Modern Irish republicans simply carried on the 'war' that their for fathers 'started'..and with the same rules (in war innocent people are going to get caught up in the middle and some unfortunatly will lose their lives in the process<--doesn' make it right..simple fact)

Most Irish republicans don't want to see innocent people caught up in the middle..But thats war.

Phoenix: What was Jean Mc Conville doing with a transmiter in her flat weeks before she was killed? Fact.

At the same time as she was killed..What were the british doing? Apart from using the 5 techniques on innocent nationalists..? Internment..How many innocent people were rounded up and beaten?

sofarsogood74: You keep talking about 254 civilans killed during 1916. You cant tell me who killed them? It could have been the Brits for all I know. But what I do know is they were not targeted by the men of 1916. They did not target civilans.

Yes they believed in armed struggle but they believed in targeting the British Army and Police. They did not kill women and children aor plant bombs where civilans would be killed. They did not shoot innocent Pizza delivery men to further their cause.

Its not innocent people getting caught in the middle when you plant a bomb in a supermarket carpark or on a main street on a busy Saturday afternoon, or in a pub on a Friday night. Thats targeting civilans.

sofarsogood74: Its not fact. Its propaganda. Show me the fact..where is the reliable source that says this?

I dont care what the Brits were doing...kill the british soldiers for that if you're pissed off...Not an innocent mother of 10 giving comfort to a dying boy..

Phoenix: Last point first..Tell that to the families of the bombs that went off in 1974 in Dublin and Monaghan (the bombs are directly linked to WHitehall fact..and with the knowladge of RUC special branch..fact)..Carried out by Robin Jackson and the UVF fact).. Innconet people being killed with the full knowledge and support of British Intelligence..

Phoenix: Exactaly how many inncoent people died as a direct reuslt of Irish republicans durning the 1916 rising (of the top of my head I don't knpw<--but I could find out roughly how many). And Irish freedom is monoplised by events in 1916..In the North at the same time and before innocent protestants were being targeted by the IRB and their fore runners the United Irish mezn simply on their religion FACT.

Phoenix: The most reliable source is Brendan 'Darkie' Hughes..OC of the Dogs (lower Fall Road brigade of the PIRA). Agree with him or not thats your choice. But no one within irish republicanism or outside has ever doubted his word (unless your name is Gerry Adams)..I'm inculding Mi5-Mi6--14th intelligence..UVF (and the rest of the alphabet soup brigade that makes up the mess in the o6c<--un finished buisness as far as certain people are concerned)?

Phoenix: Lets move on from Jean...and the violence.
You talk alot about economics. Why wouldn't irieland be a more viable comidity to sell as a united Ireland instead of a divided terrority?

sofarsogood74: So you source of proof that something is not IRA propaganda is a man from the IRA?? Come on...do me a favour.

sofarsogood74: And economically the people of the North would have to have their heads tested if they wanted to join the Republic at the moment. We could not afford to give them half of the resources supplied by the British State.

Phoenix: Do you know anything about brendan Hughes..His life, what he aspired for Ireland...<how much creedence both the irish and British goveremnts gave him..He's up there with the people who fought and died during 1916-21..He was a socialist, Irish republican. And he was prepared to put his own life on the line..to the extent he went 53 days with out food until the britsh gov. duped the 1980 hunger strike with false promises. Yeah i believe brendan. He was the guy who stopped an 18yr British solider being killed at the start of the troubles when he got cut off from his patrol. He's also on record of saying it was wrong and argued succesfully to the army council that digging a hole for someone was very counter productive..

Phoenix: I know the 26 counties isn't a wash with cash at the moment. Thats down to very bad manageent. Putting our differences aside.There is more than enough natual resources in Ireland to balance the books and get Europe of our backs for good.