Republicans kill prison officer .. (201)

I was asked by various posters earlier in the thread to condone the killing and i said then as now..What good would that do? it didn't do any good in the past. It tells me it wont do any good today.



I've asked you before and i'll do it again..Please explain what a terrorist is? What do they look like?



Is this the same propaganda that the blogger Ardoyne Republican has on his blog about Loyal Order marches forced thorough nationalist areas that GARC has offered a viable and workable solution to ease tenisons in interface areas that the Loyal orders refuse to contemplate? Did you read it? Incase you missed it..Here's a small part of what he said and I agree with..

GARC accept that the Protestant, Unionist and Loyalist community have a legitimate right to express their religion, culture, heritage and allegiance to Britain. We do not wish to hinder those rights, however, parades should take place were they are welcome and this is clearly not the case on this stretch of Road. These contentious marches only serve to poison community relations and further alienate and polarise our peoples, and all just to pander to the will of a few bigots who use culture as an excuse to mask and impose their outdated and obsolete triumphalism upon our community..........

Tell me what wrong with that propsal? Where is the sectarianism in it? Or are GARC trying to diffuse a situation before it becomes volatile next year again?

When asked here directly on Sat. evening about the possiblies of a loyalist back lash..I said 'It aint going to happen'..They let the PSNI deal with it. Then on Sunday and Monday the PUP said the very same thing and a journalist in todays Newsletter said exactly what I said to 'ohnwiseone' a few days before (she has yet to reply).

You and others talk here about justice, rule of law etc..Why don't the PSNI simply go to Stormount and ask Peter Robinson about Ulster Resistance (he was the leader of UR at the time) and their 1988 South African arms shipment. That led directly to the deaths of scores of innocent people? And while the PSNI are questioning him maybe Petey could supply the names of Mi5 & 6 spies who set up the deal in the first place. Then the PSNI while in Stormount talking to Petey could walk down a corridor and question Martyboy about the 30 odd PO's killed while he was on PIRA army council..What I don't do snowy is cherry pick.

What I wont do eiter is get involved in a futile finger waving excercise becasue the masses do. I think for me and I don't need any one to help me with my thought process. I make my decisons based on scratching the surface to get at the truth and from personal experience.

Snowy, I'll answer the question that you either can't or refuse to answer.

A terrorist is someone who terrorises (be it state sponsered or other).

Some of you have used the words justice, rule of law and democracy. Have any of you ever asked yourselves why haven't the HET examined the files concerning the Stalker, Sampson, Stevens inquiries in to 'Shoot to kill/Collusion'? Instead they go to America and ask for the tapes in Boston College to be released. Why don't they clean up their own back yard first. Maybe it's because it's too close to home for some of them.

Try this for size.Why don't the HET have a look at the Savile inquiry into Bloody Sunday and charge those responsible for shooting dead 14 innocent people dead with murder?

Could it be becasue all their available resources are tied up looking at who was behind the Dublin and Monaghan bombings of 1974?

If this flawed document (GFA) was implemented in full anyone involved in the above who committed murder (and it was proved in court) goes to prison for two years.

But instead the HET simply cherry pick what they want to investigate. Doesn't sound like the rule of law is very just.

But I'm told I'm a deluded phyisical force republican who doesn't know what I'm talking about....

People refuse to see governments as the terrorists and thieves they are. It must be Stockholm Syndrome. Governments use force and intimidation to coerce people to comply with their demands. Terrorism is defined as the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims. Bells ringing anyone?

You may have explained this already..but who or what is the HET?

I honestly think that this discussion would fair better if started on a new thread....

HET= Historical Enquiry Team.
The HET have ex members of the RUC and RUC Special Branch working along side serving memebers of the PSNI and they are meant to re examine all unsolved murders of the troubles.

And the RUC had officers who were either directly or indirectly involved in the killing of innocent people. And the HMSU(Headquarter Mobile Support Unit) headed by Ronnie Flanagan (who went on to become Chief Constable of the RUC) have been implicated in the shoot to kill enquiry that John Stalker, Colin Sampspn and John Stevens investigated (All three were Cheif Constables in the UK for different forces). But the findings have never been released.

But the PSNI want to go to America by using the MLAT (Mutual legal assistance treaty) and are asking for tapes held in Boston College to be released because they believe somewhere inside the tapes they'll have proof that Gerry Adams ordered the abduction and burial of Jean McConville. MLAT wasn't set up so police forces can have a fishing excercise.

The Boston College tapes if handed over to the PSNI will open a can of worms....And will (this is very important), allow 'people' to not only 'airbrush' certain events and figures from crimes they committed. But allow 'people' to revision history. THe BC tapes were set up for ex paramilitaries to tell there version of events and only to released when they die of natural causes or other.

The MLAT treaty was set up to help countires enforce public and criminal laws, tax matters etc..Not as a fishing exercise for a political police force.

If the HET are really interested in solving murders committed during the troubles..Why don't they clean up their own back yard first..?

Why can't Petey and Martyboy lead by example and tell the PSNI's HET team all they know about the paramilitary groups they were once involved in?

I hope that goes some way to explaining things..