Republicans kill prison officer .. (201)

Nov 1, 2012 5:34 AM CST Republicans kill prison officer ..
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixBelfast....., Antrim Ireland274 Threads 65 Polls 6,948 Posts


'Shots fired' as man dies in M1 crash Police believe shots may have been fired at a car which crashed on the M1 in Northern Ireland, killing a man.

DUP Justice Spokesperson Paul Givan has said he believes the man who died worked for the prison service.
Nov 1, 2012 6:05 AM CST Republicans kill prison officer ..
PurpleZebra
PurpleZebraPurpleZebraDundalk, Louth Ireland25 Threads 2 Polls 246 Posts
Regardless of the motive, the value of life has seriously diminished over the years. People want to be ashamed!
Peace 4 all
Nov 1, 2012 6:41 AM CST Republicans kill prison officer ..
gleneagle
gleneaglegleneagleNew York City, New York USA36 Threads 3 Polls 1,147 Posts
Phoenix: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-20164370

'Shots fired' as man dies in M1 crash Police believe shots may have been fired at a car which crashed on the M1 in Northern Ireland, killing a man.

DUP Justice Spokesperson Paul Givan has said he believes the man who died worked for the prison service.
Maybe he overstepped his job description
Nov 1, 2012 6:51 AM CST Republicans kill prison officer ..
PurpleZebra
PurpleZebraPurpleZebraDundalk, Louth Ireland25 Threads 2 Polls 246 Posts
gleneagle: Maybe he overstepped his job description



............ so, killing him is the answer? thumbs down
Nov 1, 2012 6:52 AM CST Republicans kill prison officer ..
gleneagle: Maybe he overstepped his job description


That would be my thinking on it...He didn't get shot dead for nothingireland
Nov 1, 2012 7:42 AM CST Republicans kill prison officer ..
Today's headline is 'Republicans kill prison officer', hopefully tomorrow's will read 'Prison officers kill republicans'!


Maybe this will make those fools who supported the campaign for the terrorist Marian Price think again, as they realise just what they are dealing with. Eamon O'Cuiv to his shame has been one of these people, he is clearly trying to win over the green wing of FF.
Nov 1, 2012 7:51 AM CST Republicans kill prison officer ..
snowlynx: Today's headline is 'Republicans kill prison officer', hopefully tomorrow's will read 'Prison officers kill republicans'!Maybe this will make those fools who supported the campaign for the terrorist Marian Price think again, as they realise just what they are dealing with. Eamon O'Cuiv to his shame has been one of these people, he is clearly trying to win over the green wing of FF.


FF have roots as a republican party anyway...I think what hes doing is right go Eamon..up the ralaugh ireland
Nov 1, 2012 7:57 AM CST Republicans kill prison officer ..
snowlynx: Don't you have work to go to today?


my day offireland
Nov 1, 2012 9:14 AM CST Republicans kill prison officer ..
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixBelfast....., Antrim Ireland274 Threads 65 Polls 6,948 Posts





Watch the videos...Listen to what is said. I'm not justifing killing, simply trying to let people know why David Black was killed today..
Nov 1, 2012 9:44 AM CST Republicans kill prison officer ..
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixBelfast....., Antrim Ireland274 Threads 65 Polls 6,948 Posts
(quote=sofarsogood74]I slag off ANY MAN who attcaks innocent people and murders and mames to further a political agenda. None of the forefathers I talked about targeted innocent people. They did not plant bombs in shapping centres or business areas. They did not plant car bombs in main streets that kill women and children and they certainly did not kidnap, murder and bury mothers.

I know the history of Ireland..Are you going to stand by what you have said?
Nov 1, 2012 9:47 AM CST Republicans kill prison officer ..
sofarsogood74
sofarsogood74sofarsogood74Dublin, Ireland40 Threads 4 Polls 2,711 Posts
Phoenix: (quote=sofarsogood74]I slag off ANY MAN who attcaks innocent people and murders and mames to further a political agenda. None of the forefathers I talked about targeted innocent people. They did not plant bombs in shapping centres or business areas. They did not plant car bombs in main streets that kill women and children and they certainly did not kidnap, murder and bury mothers.

I know the history of Ireland..Are you going to stand by what you have said?


Yes. They did not target owmen and children. They did not plant bombs in public areas with a view to kill innocent people. They did not kidnap, torture and kill innocent Mothers for just giving comfort to a dying boy.
Nov 1, 2012 9:54 AM CST Republicans kill prison officer ..
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixBelfast....., Antrim Ireland274 Threads 65 Polls 6,948 Posts
sofarsogood74: Yes. They did not target owmen and children. They did not plant bombs in public areas with a view to kill innocent people. They did not kidnap, torture and kill innocent Mothers for just giving comfort to a dying boy.


Last point first, the death was meant to be prevented. Secondly the person who tried to prevent it actually stopped the same thing happeneing not long before (The person who tried to stop it was brendan 'Darkie' Hughes). You are talking about Jean McConville who was a mother of 10 and also an agent of the state. I'm not justifing her death..But she was warned weeks before to stop putting 'twigs' in her flat.

Lets go wayyy back..What do you know about the 'Peep o'Day boy's'..? Henry Joy (Belfast Irish protestant)??

Let me know your cut off date..
Nov 1, 2012 9:58 AM CST Republicans kill prison officer ..
sofarsogood74
sofarsogood74sofarsogood74Dublin, Ireland40 Threads 4 Polls 2,711 Posts
Phoenix: Last point first, the death was meant to be prevented. Secondly the person who tried to prevent it actually stopped the same thing happeneing not long before (The person who tried to stop it was brendan 'Darkie' Hughes). You are talking about Jean McConville who was a mother of 10 and also an agent of the state. I'm not justifing her death..But she was warned weeks before to stop putting 'twigs' in her flat.

Lets go wayyy back..What do you know about the 'Peep o'Day boy's'..? Henry Joy (Belfast Irish protestant)??

Let me know your cut off date..


Agent of the state???? Have you proof of that? That is just IRA propaganda so they would not look like absolute scum they are for taking a MOTHER away from her children, torturing her, killing her and burying the body so the family had no closure. Disgusting.

And none of the men from 1916 or 1919-21 ever targeted civilans and especially women and children.
Nov 1, 2012 10:03 AM CST Republicans kill prison officer ..
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixBelfast....., Antrim Ireland274 Threads 65 Polls 6,948 Posts
Sofar whats your views on former memebers of the RUC behing re-hired for the PSNI?

What happened to the pardon of Marion Price? Why is Alun Lundy in Roe Hse? Why Was gerry mcGeough arrested and jailed (he was pardoned too)..

What happened in Dublin & Monaghan 1974?

Bloddy Friday? Abercon bar...Even during the the war of indepence there was civilains killed dicriminatly by irish reopublican (by the fore fathers you mentioned)..Trust me I know irish republicanism..

I do agree Gerry Adams and a lot of SF in the o6c are simply carrying out Unionist/British rules in the North.
Nov 1, 2012 10:06 AM CST Republicans kill prison officer ..
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixBelfast....., Antrim Ireland274 Threads 65 Polls 6,948 Posts
sofarsogood74: Agent of the state???? Have you proof of that? That is just IRA propaganda so they would not look like absolute scum they are for taking a MOTHER away from her children, torturing her, killing her and burying the body so the family had no closure. Disgusting.

And none of the men from 1916 or 1919-21 ever targeted civilans and especially women and children.


I never agreed how jean McConcille was killed but as an agent of the state who has been found out thats the rules. Brendan Hughes who was OC of the Dogs is on record saying the same. But she was an agent of the state.

I'll answer the 1916-21 Q..later
Nov 1, 2012 10:18 AM CST Republicans kill prison officer ..
sofarsogood74
sofarsogood74sofarsogood74Dublin, Ireland40 Threads 4 Polls 2,711 Posts
Phoenix: I never agreed how jean McConcille was killed but as an agent of the state who has been found out thats the rules. Brendan Hughes who was OC of the Dogs is on record saying the same. But she was an agent of the state.

I'll answer the 1916-21 Q..later



You'll anser the 1916-19,21 question later after you trawl the internet to try to find men of that era targeting civilans.laugh roll eyes

Wonder how long you would have to look for the IRA targeting civilans.sigh

And you have no proof of that statement about that poor woman. It is and was just IRA propaganda to try to explain a disgusting act!barf
Nov 1, 2012 10:18 AM CST Republicans kill prison officer ..
sofarsogood74
sofarsogood74sofarsogood74Dublin, Ireland40 Threads 4 Polls 2,711 Posts
Phoenix: I never agreed how jean McConcille was killed but as an agent of the state who has been found out thats the rules. Brendan Hughes who was OC of the Dogs is on record saying the same. But she was an agent of the state.

I'll answer the 1916-21 Q..later



You'll anser the 1916-19,21 question later after you trawl the internet to try to find men of that era targeting civilans.laugh roll eyes

Wonder how long you would have to look for the IRA targeting civilans.sigh

And you have no proof of that statement about that poor woman. It is and was just IRA propaganda to try to explain a disgusting act!barf
Nov 1, 2012 10:42 AM CST Republicans kill prison officer ..
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixBelfast....., Antrim Ireland274 Threads 65 Polls 6,948 Posts
sofarsogood74: You'll anser the 1916-19,21 question later after you trawl the internet to try to find men of that era targeting civilans.

Wonder how long you would have to look for the IRA targeting civilans.

And you have no proof of that statement about that poor woman. It is and was just IRA propaganda to try to explain a disgusting act!


I'll give this one (only becasue I was looking for figues)..There was at least 254 innocent civillans killed during the 1916 rising. If you are asking me to believe that Republicans did't equate innocent people dying to further their cause then what?

RE Jean McConville..I'm meant to belive Brit propoganda. That she was simply a mother bringing up 10 kids..Why should I belive Brit proganda..? The British Gov. have lied every since they put foot in Ireland..

I said no personal attacks..Stop with the emoticons. You don't need them to make an argument..You'll actually lose it quicker by using them.
Nov 1, 2012 10:44 AM CST Republicans kill prison officer ..
sofarsogood74
sofarsogood74sofarsogood74Dublin, Ireland40 Threads 4 Polls 2,711 Posts
Phoenix: Because someone has experience in an area doesn't mean they are fit to serve office. The RUC have been implicated in the deaths of Irish people both north and south of the border...



And Im sure if someone was implicated they would not get a job with the PSNI.


Phoenix: So by your own admission you aren't very well read up on modern Irish repubicans. But you want to believe that Marion Price was connected to the attack on Massereene barracks again with out knowing much about her...???? Owen Patterson the former scretary of state for the North is on record saying' her pardon only covered the time she spent in jail for previous offences but when asked to produce the pardon the answer was it's lost, shredded or other. But you have clearly stated you don't know much about modern irish republicans. Then why voice an opinion on something you have very lillte knowledge on?..


I dont know much about them but I do know they believe in an armed struggle which means killing innocent people. So I dont want to know about them because they dont represent me or the vast majority of people on this island.


Phoenix: I think 9 died and something like 20 or 22 bombs went off depending on what report you read...it was a complete PR disaster fro Irish Republicans. No arguement there.
Irish republicanism didn't suddenly start during easter week in 1916...


I know it didn't. I know about the uprisings of the 1600,s and 1700,s. But they were hundreds of years ago. Totally different times. The only ones we can really compare to modern thinking or the modern era are the 1916 uprising and war of independance.



Phoenix: .What about the 'peep o'days'(they were protestant)...Henry Joy( irish protestant like Wolf Tone<--both irish protestants)..What do you know about them (Trust me I've read my history)....


See above.

Phoenix: .Did Irish republican target irish civillains from and before 1798 until the present day..Short answer to that is, yes they did..


The men who gained our freedom...the men of 1916 and 19-21 did not target civilans. They did not kill innocent women and children and did not plant bombs indiscriminately without care for child or pregnant woman.
Nov 1, 2012 10:59 AM CST Republicans kill prison officer ..
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixBelfast....., Antrim Ireland274 Threads 65 Polls 6,948 Posts
sofarsogood74: And Im sure if someone was implicated they would not get a job with the PSNI.


Unfortunatly the reality is very different. Former members of the RUC and Special branch have not only been re-hired but also work with HET<--renders their investigations questionable. Even this week a mother is opening up a civil case against the HET for the very reasons I've said..

sofarsogood74: I dont know much about them but I do know they believe in an armed struggle which means killing innocent people. So I dont want to know about them because they dont represent me or the vast majority of people on this island.


Didn't the very fore-fathers you alluded to in a previous post believe in an armed struggle?? What part of armed struggle do you believe in? Again at least 254 innocent people died during the 1916 rising (no connection to either Irish Republicans or the British died as a direct result of armed struggle). But you 'salute' Pearse, Conolloy etc as heros?? They belived in armed struggle...

sofarsogood74: I know it didn't. I know about the uprisings of the 1600,s and 1700,s. But they were hundreds of years ago. Totally different times. The only ones we can really compare to modern thinking or the modern era are the 1916 uprising and war of independance. See above.


The only ones you can compare..For myself personally..sectarnian violence is wrong no matter what era..

sofarsogood74: The men who gained our freedom...the men of 1916 and 19-21 did not target civilans. They did not kill innocent women and children and did not plant bombs indiscriminately without care for child or pregnant woman.


Again the people you speak of wanted irieland for the irish with out british involement..Period. The fact 254 innoncent people died seems to have gone AWOL on your radar somewhere. Don't tell me otr ithers that Collins, Pearse etc didn't understand the real chance of Irish people getting caught up in the events of 1916 was certain.

Modern Irish republicans simply carried on the 'war' that their for fathers 'started'..and with the same rules (in war innocent people are going to get caught up in the middle and some unfortunatly will lose their lives in the process<--doesn' make it right..simple fact)

Most Irish republicans don't want to see innocent people caught up in the middle..But thats war.
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