Would a revolution in America be possible? (81)
Scubadiva: This is for fun!!
Let's say that the American people, or half of them, were so fed up with the system that they wanted to organize and start a revolution.
Do you think that would be possible? and do you think there'd be a remote chance that it could be successful in effecting a fundamental change in the system in the end?
(Considering the laws concerning the use of the national guard, the military forces which are under federal law, gun laws, peoples' political opinions, etc.)
My own opinion is that at the slightest sign of serious political organization, it would be crushed before it became a threat to the establishment. If peaceful ways/defamation/manipulation etc. proved unsuccessful, it would be destroyed violently. I do not believe that a revolution in this country is remotely possible anymore.
What do you think?
Let's say that the American people, or half of them, were so fed up with the system that they wanted to organize and start a revolution.
Do you think that would be possible? and do you think there'd be a remote chance that it could be successful in effecting a fundamental change in the system in the end?
(Considering the laws concerning the use of the national guard, the military forces which are under federal law, gun laws, peoples' political opinions, etc.)
My own opinion is that at the slightest sign of serious political organization, it would be crushed before it became a threat to the establishment. If peaceful ways/defamation/manipulation etc. proved unsuccessful, it would be destroyed violently. I do not believe that a revolution in this country is remotely possible anymore.
What do you think?
No countries government is going to give up their franchise to rule, you may rest assured that the US along with all other countries have contingency plans for such an event, including intervention by the armed forces to shoot to kill dissenters.
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tomcatwarne: No countries government is going to give up their franchise to rule, you may rest assured that the US along with all other countries have contingency plans for such an event, including intervention by the armed forces to shoot to kill dissenters.
Which is exactly why our founding people's provided our 2nd amendment. And it is possible such a revolution can happen. Our military people are citizens first. Maybe our politicians forget this, but we the people do not.
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There would be a lot of dead people on the streets...
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Your peaceful ways, defamation and manipulaton are common in the daily life and cause confusion but not revolution.
Destroyed violently? what? the congress? the electric wires? the white house? the gas stations? harbours?
Destroyed violently? what? the congress? the electric wires? the white house? the gas stations? harbours?
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No revolution in this day could hope for any success without their country's military and the majority of its commanders. So far only one country "in modern times" has dared to nearly go all the way and that was France over the giving up of Algeria. People should read just how close it actually came and more importantly, just what was done by the Govt. to stop it from spreading. Far too many stood on the sidelines watching to see how other commanders reacted when the first mutinies occurred, starting with the famed Second Regiment of the Foreign Legion Paras...The vast majority of the people would have gone with the military had they all turned against De Gaulle. Crowds even gathered all over Paris to wait for the first wave of Paras to come in from the Legion and other units...
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Revolutions happen after a total Breakdown of relations between a Government and the People!
Doubt the US is that far!
Another question would be,on what side the Military would be on!
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Conrad73: Revolutions happen after a total Breakdown of relations between a Government and the People!
Doubt the US is that far!
Another question would be,on what side the Military would be on!
Doubt the US is that far!
Another question would be,on what side the Military would be on!
I think our military, especially navy personnel, have their eyes wide open as the u.s. government has begun to downsize and not honor contractbpromises made to enlistees. I doubt our troops will turn weapons on their own families like what happened during our civil war caused by a president violating the constitution. IMO
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the u.s. already has a contingency plan for that. There are now 72 detainment camps that they are calling "residential facilities" all through the u.s.
They are for pandemics or civil unrest.
With the U.S. government pretty much being run by big business and the elite, a revolution is unavoidable and they know it so they are prepared.
They are for pandemics or civil unrest.
With the U.S. government pretty much being run by big business and the elite, a revolution is unavoidable and they know it so they are prepared.
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mjames: the u.s. already has a contingency plan for that. There are now 72 detainment camps that they are calling "residential facilities" all through the u.s.
They are for pandemics or civil unrest.
With the U.S. government pretty much being run by big business and the elite, a revolution is unavoidable and they know it so they are prepared.
They are for pandemics or civil unrest.
With the U.S. government pretty much being run by big business and the elite, a revolution is unavoidable and they know it so they are prepared.
Yeah, who's going to lead the charge for the government, Scary Harry and the senate?
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I doubt a revolution is possible. The Americans of today are not the same as they were 200 years ago, too soft and spoiled to go out in the street or woods with a rifle and wage a civil war. Also I think we've learned there are better and easier ways to make changes without resorting to violence.
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ooby_dooby: I doubt a revolution is possible. The Americans of today are not the same as they were 200 years ago, too soft and spoiled to go out in the street or woods with a rifle and wage a civil war. Also I think we've learned there are better and easier ways to make changes without resorting to violence.
Do you really think the left is too lazy to stand up for their rights today? I guess they already gave up their freedoms..... We can either get free things from our government (others) or be free. I don't think their is a middle of the road on freedom... IMO.....
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ooby_dooby: I doubt a revolution is possible. The Americans of today are not the same as they were 200 years ago, too soft and spoiled to go out in the street or woods with a rifle and wage a civil war. Also I think we've learned there are better and easier ways to make changes without resorting to violence.
I agree Ooby. Be thankful that we are soft and spoiled. 620,000 soldiers died in the Civil War.The first thing gun lovers (no offense Galrad) think of is the Second Amendment. Resorting to violence under the pretense of the Second Amendment gives them a chance to play out the wild west days when everybody was hiding behind a barn with a shotgun.
Talking it out isn't always easy. The proof of that is right now in Washington with the fiscal cliff discussions. Two people can't come to an agreement yet they keep trying.
Imagine if one of them got his shotgun out and said listen here pardner, I don't like the way you think and pointed a gun...
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I think all western governments have arms, vehicles and contingency plans in case of revolution and there will be a list of people for immediate imprisonment without trial. I've noticed over the last 30 years or so at football games, there are vans equipped with protection for crowd control. These weren't fabricated the day before like the A team. And during the miner's strike in Thatcher's Britain protected buses were available to break through the picket lines. Like I said, these guys are prepared. I think any revolution will be stamped on very quickly. 
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In response to: This is for fun!!
Let's say that the American people, or half of them, were so fed up with the system that they wanted to organize and start a revolution.
Do you think that would be possible?
Let's say that the American people, or half of them, were so fed up with the system that they wanted to organize and start a revolution.
Do you think that would be possible?
Nothing "fun" about a revolution.
The government will never see or appreciate the humor.
And they are terribly bad sports.
Revolutions are almost never genuine anyway.
They don't really install a new power structure, they just change the set of puppets who make up the facade.
And in so doing, they give the old corrupt system a new squeaky-clean image. Renewing its power to deceive.
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A Revolution is possible, its happened several times before with great success. With today's Technology there are many advantages and disadvantages for both sides, the media will be the forefront of the propaganda machine, so it can sway popular opinion, this is where the term "Terrorist" was used, and every executive order was built around it, to confuse the term "patriot"/militia"
The government can cry all they like but the fact remains constitutionally, we the people have the right to defend ourselves against enemies, foreign and domestic, just like that oat the Prez took, he seems to ignore.
the thing one must ask oneself,"If i engage in a Revolution, what qualifies as my best reason, and what is the ultimate outcome, what is my gain by doing so?" and am i willing to risk everything, because you only live once
Entitlements dictate participation, so whom ever plots a revolution, it will most likely be a small group of X military that knows where to deliver the killing blow,and not jeopardize innocence
The government can cry all they like but the fact remains constitutionally, we the people have the right to defend ourselves against enemies, foreign and domestic, just like that oat the Prez took, he seems to ignore.
the thing one must ask oneself,"If i engage in a Revolution, what qualifies as my best reason, and what is the ultimate outcome, what is my gain by doing so?" and am i willing to risk everything, because you only live once
Entitlements dictate participation, so whom ever plots a revolution, it will most likely be a small group of X military that knows where to deliver the killing blow,and not jeopardize innocence
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I think the history of revolution is not that it brings democracy. Using the flag of freedom, it substitutes one set of masters for another. 
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Most of world countries believe,the US system of government is THE model system for the rest of the world.- Destroying violently,by a revolution,this system,is like destroying, hope and expectations to a couple of billion people world wide.-
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chris27292729: Most of world countries believe,the US system of government is THE model system for the rest of the world.- Destroying violently,by a revolution,this system,is like destroying, hope and expectations to a couple of billion people world wide.-
Are you mad? It's corporate controlled!
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chris27292729: Most of world countries believe,the US system of government is THE model system for the rest of the world.- Destroying violently,by a revolution,this system,is like destroying, hope and expectations to a couple of billion people world wide.-
Chris, any revolt here would most likely be directed at the government leaders and activist judges, not our Republic. Our constitution is a decent document and has pretty much worked for most here, up until comrade Obama that is.
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Let's say that the American people, or half of them, were so fed up with the system that they wanted to organize and start a revolution.
Do you think that would be possible? and do you think there'd be a remote chance that it could be successful in effecting a fundamental change in the system in the end?
(Considering the laws concerning the use of the national guard, the military forces which are under federal law, gun laws, peoples' political opinions, etc.)
My own opinion is that at the slightest sign of serious political organization, it would be crushed before it became a threat to the establishment. If peaceful ways/defamation/manipulation etc. proved unsuccessful, it would be destroyed violently. I do not believe that a revolution in this country is remotely possible anymore.
What do you think?