Life for Killers of Police officers (15)
Tomcats2: The British Home Secretary Theresa May, told the British Federation of Police Officers todayThat Anyone convicted of killing a police officer will now recieve a life sentence without any hope of release. What do you think of this?
Is it right that Police officers lifes are deemed more important than that of a childs or a grandmother or any other human being for that matter?
Is it right that Police officers lifes are deemed more important than that of a childs or a grandmother or any other human being for that matter?
We need I think to protect, as much as possible, those we rely on to protect us.
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Godsgift: We need I think to protect, as much as possible, those we rely on to protect us.
good point GG but a child murder got 38 years ysterday and could be released on day i think all murderers should get the full life tarrif------ This thread is Archived ------
Tomcats2: good point GG but a child murder got 38 years ysterday and could be released on day i think all murderers should get the full life tarrif
I agree, all mureders deserve to put in jail for life, and no
parole at all.
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Tomcats2: The British Home Secretary Theresa May, told the British Federation of Police Officers todayThat Anyone convicted of killing a police officer will now recieve a life sentence without any hope of release. What do you think of this?
Is it right that Police officers lifes are deemed more important than that of a childs or a grandmother or any other human being for that matter?
We have a differnt sentencing procedure here in Florida...you kill a child or an elderly it makes you elligiable for the death sentence. They enacted new laws to the death sentence in Florida about a month ago to where it will make it quicker to enforce this sentence than before. I am with GG on the idea of needing to protect those who protect us. yes if they are killed while on duty or pertaining to their job yes I think they should get life. If they are out boozing it up and get in a shoot out (sorry this could happen hereIs it right that Police officers lifes are deemed more important than that of a childs or a grandmother or any other human being for that matter?
) because they are out with their best friends wife then it needs to go the usual legal route. 
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My personal opinion ;
At some point in time the rulers have established a pyramid like order of servants in order to protect their own interests or in other terms ,they hide behind many layers of bureaucracy and armed forces.
During the second world war ,the German forces made a proclamation ( which they carried out ) that 100 Serbs will be executed for one German soldier , 50 for a wounded .
I really don`t see how ones life is more valuable then another ones, just because he wears a uniform,has a badge or belongs to certain formations
and no ,the police force although we may think they are here to serve and protect ,their job is to protect the interests of the ruling elite .And the funny part is, they get payed by the government with our money
At some point in time the rulers have established a pyramid like order of servants in order to protect their own interests or in other terms ,they hide behind many layers of bureaucracy and armed forces.
During the second world war ,the German forces made a proclamation ( which they carried out ) that 100 Serbs will be executed for one German soldier , 50 for a wounded .
I really don`t see how ones life is more valuable then another ones, just because he wears a uniform,has a badge or belongs to certain formations
and no ,the police force although we may think they are here to serve and protect ,their job is to protect the interests of the ruling elite .And the funny part is, they get payed by the government with our money
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Tomcats2: The British Home Secretary Theresa May, told the British Federation of Police Officers todayThat Anyone convicted of killing a police officer will now recieve a life sentence without any hope of release. What do you think of this?
Is it right that Police officers lifes are deemed more important than that of a childs or a grandmother or any other human being for that matter?
Is it right that Police officers lifes are deemed more important than that of a childs or a grandmother or any other human being for that matter?
I personally think that if you intentionally kill someone that you should lose your own right to live. I know that they say it cost more to do that then imprison them for life but I still think if it is a clear case that it should not be so hard to throw a rope over a tree branch or something high up.
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Tomcats2: The British Home Secretary Theresa May, told the British Federation of Police Officers todayThat Anyone convicted of killing a police officer will now recieve a life sentence without any hope of release. What do you think of this?
Is it right that Police officers lifes are deemed more important than that of a childs or a grandmother or any other human being for that matter?
Is it right that Police officers lifes are deemed more important than that of a childs or a grandmother or any other human being for that matter?
My guess would be its about dealing with police officers being more of a target, rather than their lives being more valuable.
As happy said, if they're killed in the line of duty, its maybe different from if they are killed out drinking and brawling.
Whilst I agree with much of what Boban has said, I also see the other side of the coin, living here in a small, sleepy village in the Welsh Valleys. Some of the police officers I've seen patrolling the village are hardly supporters of despotism. I think they sometimes send the youngsters here to get them used to walking about in uniform. I get the urge to make sure they've had their cookies and milk rather than expect them to look after me.
Assuming it is about reducing the incidence of targeting, my question would be, will it work? If someone has nothing to lose, does it make the officers more of a target? Would a convict have more kudos and an easier time with other inmates for taking out a few uniforms before going to jail?
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Nikogas: I personally think that if you intentionally kill someone that you should lose your own right to live. I know that they say it cost more to do that then imprison them for life but I still think if it is a clear case that it should not be so hard to throw a rope over a tree branch or something high up.
So, would you be prepared to kill someone who has killed and then be killed yourself for killing someone?
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Tomcats2: The British Home Secretary Theresa May, told the British Federation of Police Officers todayThat Anyone convicted of killing a police officer will now recieve a life sentence without any hope of release. What do you think of this?
Is it right that Police officers lifes are deemed more important than that of a childs or a grandmother or any other human being for that matter?
Is it right that Police officers lifes are deemed more important than that of a childs or a grandmother or any other human being for that matter?
She has 'asked' for life without release, I don't think it's entirely her decision.
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jac379: So, would you be prepared to kill someone who has killed and then be killed yourself for killing someone?
I have no idea what you are doing. I simply answered the question.
Are you delving into a "new" topic?
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Nikogas: I have no idea what you are doing. I simply answered the question.
Are you delving into a "new" topic?
Are you delving into a "new" topic?
And I'm responding to your post regarding the subject of capital punishment which you raised in relation to the thread topic.
I'm not having a personal jab at you, Niko, nor am I up to anything evil. I suppose I'm a bit like a chess player (not that I can play chess) always thinking several steps ahead when debating.
If we explore our attitudes regarding capital punishment, it might lead us to new avenues of thought regarding life sentencing without parole, or sentencing according to the status of the victim.
If you couldn't kill a killer yourself, is it right/just/ethical to call for capital punishment? Do we distance ourselves from the reality of capital punishment, or do we use capital punishment to distance ourselves from the crime? Is capital punishment really about justice, or many other factors including revenge? Do we want our justice systems to be about justice, or revenge? How would we feel if our legal system was titled the Great British Revenge System (for example)?
What are the consequences of life sentencing without parole? Is it a form of psychological torture and would that be about justice, or revenge? If its about revenge, what does that say about our own psyches if we wish to either kill, or torture other people ourselves?
If someone has a life sentence without parole, how does that impact upon their behaviour? Can you reasonably get someone to conform to a prison system if they have nothing to lose? Are we losing the carrots in front of our donkeys by doing this and would lifers commit more atrocities in prison knowing nothing more can be done to them? Would we have to keep some prisoners in solitary confinement all their lives, increasing costs and maybe contravening humanitarian rights in some way? Would capital punishment be a preferable option to life long imprisonment for some?
Whether you could kill someone yourself, or not, why would the killer of the killer be immune from being killed unless we value one life over another? Isn't that what Tom thinks is unfair about the proposal to have life sentencing with no parole for killing police officers? Isn't that what people are arguing against here? That no one life is more valuable than another?
Can you see why I don't blurt out all my thinking at once, Niko?
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I agree, the police place themselves in a particular danger and so they need particular protection, that is, they need a stronger deterrent, a stronger punishment, for killing and/or harming them.
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Jodi Arias is asking for the death penalty since being found guilty of killing her boyfriend.
She has admitted that she wants freedom and the only way she will get that is to die rather then go to prison.
She has no choice in the matter of what her sentence will be.
She killed him with one shot to the head, 27 stabs to his torso and sliced his throat almost decapitating him. Obviously a crime of passion. Should the sentence be less then death if she just shot him?
Killing someone, no matter who it was, deserves the same punishment but here in the U.S., it depends on what state you live in. Texas and Florida are notorious for the death penalty. Jodi is from Arizona and has the death penalty. Now it's a waiting game to find out what the jury is going to give her.
She has admitted that she wants freedom and the only way she will get that is to die rather then go to prison.
She has no choice in the matter of what her sentence will be.
She killed him with one shot to the head, 27 stabs to his torso and sliced his throat almost decapitating him. Obviously a crime of passion. Should the sentence be less then death if she just shot him?
Killing someone, no matter who it was, deserves the same punishment but here in the U.S., it depends on what state you live in. Texas and Florida are notorious for the death penalty. Jodi is from Arizona and has the death penalty. Now it's a waiting game to find out what the jury is going to give her.
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Obstinance_Works: I agree, the police place themselves in a particular danger and so they need particular protection, that is, they need a stronger deterrent, a stronger punishment, for killing and/or harming them.
Just give'em a '45.
I mean just as a detergent. made of soap.
Couldn't help it. LOL Did they ever catch "the ripper"? 
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Is it right that Police officers lifes are deemed more important than that of a childs or a grandmother or any other human being for that matter?