Why do smart people believe in god? (120)
Conrad73: well,you can believe in anything you wish,even the Flying Spaghetti-Monster,just keep it to yourself,and leave me out of it!
On another Site I am on,we have a rare Bird,Fundamental Christian,full of Hate,lashes out at anything he doesn't understand!
Yep,he is a great advert for Religion!
On another Site I am on,we have a rare Bird,Fundamental Christian,full of Hate,lashes out at anything he doesn't understand!
Yep,he is a great advert for Religion!
Standard procedure for those type of people."Believe in my God or else".
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Waterbearer63: Smart and intelligent people don`t believe in "God". Only the delusional follow the crowd Sheeple type do because they can`t think or act for themselves.These type believe in a God so they don`t have to take responsibility for their own lives.They let God take care of things and then when things go wrong, they say"Oh,it`s all part of God`s great plan". PLEASE!.Get a life and take some responsibility for what happens in it.Stop being Sheeple!.
Personally, as I'm generally regarded as both smart and intelligent by those who know, I laugh (kindly) at you and draw your attention the the obvious fact, that The Earth, all life forms on this earth and indeed the entirety of The Universe run upon rules (lines) that have been devised by some Higher Power (God)
Furthermore, I do NOT regard 'unexpected' or 'unwanted' or 'unfortunate' effects as 'simply part of God's plan.
Nor do I attribute them to the vagaries of good or bad luck...
Rather, having studied extensively, I arrived at the conclusion that 'everything is connected to everything else' and that every thought, word or deed that I create becomes a 'cause set in motion' and will have an 'effect'.
That effect may be immediate (as if I place my hand on a hot stove top ) or, it may be a long delayed effect ( perhaps I told a series of lies to a colleague (Davina) some years ago and now, years later, I've just been refused a job I really wanted. Unknown to me that former colleague (Davina) remembers me, and she remembers the pack of lies I told then, so does not choose to trust me and employ me now.
It's also my direct experience that those individuals who refer to others as 'sheeple' are, when questioned found to be the most likely to fit that description themselves.
So, in language you will best understand baa baa, baa bbaaaa baaaaaa
;-)
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HexagonKeySet: Personally, as I'm generally regarded as both smart and intelligent by those who know, I laugh (kindly) at you and draw your attention the the obvious fact, that The Earth, all life forms on this earth and indeed the entirety of The Universe run upon rules (lines) that have been devised by some Higher Power (God)
Furthermore, I do NOT regard 'unexpected' or 'unwanted' or 'unfortunate' effects as 'simply part of God's plan.
Nor do I attribute them to the vagaries of good or bad luck...
Rather, having studied extensively, I arrived at the conclusion that 'everything is connected to everything else' and that every thought, word or deed that I create becomes a 'cause set in motion' and will have an 'effect'.
That effect may be immediate (as if I place my hand on a hot stove top ) or, it may be a long delayed effect ( perhaps I told a series of lies to a colleague (Davina) some years ago and now, years later, I've just been refused a job I really wanted. Unknown to me that former colleague (Davina) remembers me, and she remembers the pack of lies I told then, so does not choose to trust me and employ me now.
It's also my direct experience that those individuals who refer to others as 'sheeple' are, when questioned found to be the most likely to fit that description themselves.
So, in language you will best understand baa baa, baa bbaaaa baaaaaa
;-)
well thinking.Completly agry with u.Furthermore, I do NOT regard 'unexpected' or 'unwanted' or 'unfortunate' effects as 'simply part of God's plan.
Nor do I attribute them to the vagaries of good or bad luck...
Rather, having studied extensively, I arrived at the conclusion that 'everything is connected to everything else' and that every thought, word or deed that I create becomes a 'cause set in motion' and will have an 'effect'.
That effect may be immediate (as if I place my hand on a hot stove top ) or, it may be a long delayed effect ( perhaps I told a series of lies to a colleague (Davina) some years ago and now, years later, I've just been refused a job I really wanted. Unknown to me that former colleague (Davina) remembers me, and she remembers the pack of lies I told then, so does not choose to trust me and employ me now.
It's also my direct experience that those individuals who refer to others as 'sheeple' are, when questioned found to be the most likely to fit that description themselves.
So, in language you will best understand baa baa, baa bbaaaa baaaaaa
;-)
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HexagonKeySet: Personally, as I'm generally regarded as both smart and intelligent by those who know, I laugh (kindly) at you and draw your attention the the obvious fact, that The Earth, all life forms on this earth and indeed the entirety of The Universe run upon rules (lines) that have been devised by some Higher Power (God)
Furthermore, I do NOT regard 'unexpected' or 'unwanted' or 'unfortunate' effects as 'simply part of God's plan.
Nor do I attribute them to the vagaries of good or bad luck...
Rather, having studied extensively, I arrived at the conclusion that 'everything is connected to everything else' and that every thought, word or deed that I create becomes a 'cause set in motion' and will have an 'effect'.
That effect may be immediate (as if I place my hand on a hot stove top ) or, it may be a long delayed effect ( perhaps I told a series of lies to a colleague (Davina) some years ago and now, years later, I've just been refused a job I really wanted. Unknown to me that former colleague (Davina) remembers me, and she remembers the pack of lies I told then, so does not choose to trust me and employ me now.
It's also my direct experience that those individuals who refer to others as 'sheeple' are, when questioned found to be the most likely to fit that description themselves.
So, in language you will best understand baa baa, baa bbaaaa baaaaaa
;-)
Furthermore, I do NOT regard 'unexpected' or 'unwanted' or 'unfortunate' effects as 'simply part of God's plan.
Nor do I attribute them to the vagaries of good or bad luck...
Rather, having studied extensively, I arrived at the conclusion that 'everything is connected to everything else' and that every thought, word or deed that I create becomes a 'cause set in motion' and will have an 'effect'.
That effect may be immediate (as if I place my hand on a hot stove top ) or, it may be a long delayed effect ( perhaps I told a series of lies to a colleague (Davina) some years ago and now, years later, I've just been refused a job I really wanted. Unknown to me that former colleague (Davina) remembers me, and she remembers the pack of lies I told then, so does not choose to trust me and employ me now.
It's also my direct experience that those individuals who refer to others as 'sheeple' are, when questioned found to be the most likely to fit that description themselves.
So, in language you will best understand baa baa, baa bbaaaa baaaaaa
;-)
Your first paragraph suggests you have been brainwashed by the masses into believing stories written by man and not God. God never wrote the Bible and therefore I find it as credible as some report put out by Washington suggesting that they`ve balanced the budget. Wake me when you have something relevant to say.Goodnight ------ This thread is Archived ------
Waterbearer63: How about we agree to disagree on this subject and leave it at that.
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Waterbearer63: Your first paragraph suggests you have been brainwashed by the masses into believing stories written by man and not God. God never wrote the Bible and therefore I find it as credible as some report put out by Washington suggesting that they`ve balanced the budget. Wake me when you have something relevant to say.Goodnight
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You see, you don;t even have a basic grounding in logic with which to argue your case.
You were told it was stupid to believe in A Higher Being and, being something of a lazy minded sheep, you just accepted that notion so as to 'fit in' with the rest of the flock you run with?
Or, perhaps you were a super smart ram and your agreement got you access to a group that otherwise would have rejected you?
There was NO MENTION of the Bible in my post, nor did anything in the post suggest that I belived 'God wrote the Bible' so, in true Sheeple tradition, you Sir, are simply make a loud noise.
And every knows 'Ewe empty vessels make the most noise...'
You were told it was stupid to believe in A Higher Being and, being something of a lazy minded sheep, you just accepted that notion so as to 'fit in' with the rest of the flock you run with?
Or, perhaps you were a super smart ram and your agreement got you access to a group that otherwise would have rejected you?
There was NO MENTION of the Bible in my post, nor did anything in the post suggest that I belived 'God wrote the Bible' so, in true Sheeple tradition, you Sir, are simply make a loud noise.
And every knows 'Ewe empty vessels make the most noise...'
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When someone can explain to me how the universe, earth, animals, nature and mankind can be sooooooooooooo complex and amazing all on its own, then it might disprove to me that there isn't a higher power. Thus far, I'm still waiting.
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langleygirl: When someone can explain to me how the universe, earth, animals, nature and mankind can be sooooooooooooo complex and amazing all on its own, then it might disprove to me that there isn't a higher power. Thus far, I'm still waiting.
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HexagonKeySet: You see, you don;t even have a basic grounding in logic with which to argue your case.
You were told it was stupid to believe in A Higher Being and, being something of a lazy minded sheep, you just accepted that notion so as to 'fit in' with the rest of the flock you run with?
Or, perhaps you were a super smart ram and your agreement got you access to a group that otherwise would have rejected you?
There was NO MENTION of the Bible in my post, nor did anything in the post suggest that I belived 'God wrote the Bible' so, in true Sheeple tradition, you Sir, are simply make a loud noise.
And every knows 'Ewe empty vessels make the most noise...'
You were told it was stupid to believe in A Higher Being and, being something of a lazy minded sheep, you just accepted that notion so as to 'fit in' with the rest of the flock you run with?
Or, perhaps you were a super smart ram and your agreement got you access to a group that otherwise would have rejected you?
There was NO MENTION of the Bible in my post, nor did anything in the post suggest that I belived 'God wrote the Bible' so, in true Sheeple tradition, you Sir, are simply make a loud noise.
And every knows 'Ewe empty vessels make the most noise...'
Everybody knows that the myth of God starts with the Bible so to deny any mention of it when speaking of God is ridiculous.You earlier stated that you had studied for many years.Studying for years means nothing unless you actually comprehend what you`ve studied so telling me about all your years of study is irrelevant.I don`t know what you studied but I find your arguments poorly structured and completely illogical.Something I`ve noticed about you religious Sheeple is that you refuse to listen to anybody else`s arguments or try to understand their point of view.Quite frankly your lack of logic in your statements makes one question what it was you studied for years.Did you attain any type of a degree upon completion?.What institution did you study at?.How many years?.Have you written any papers?.Anything published?.Have you ever studied any of the Quantum Physics theories or do you even know what those are?.If you haven`t studied or don`t know what Quantum Physics is, then you`re way out of your league trying to debate the subject of why any God cannot exist with me.I await your response and will decide after reading it whether I deem you competent enough to continue our debate.
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langleygirl: When someone can explain to me how the universe, earth, animals, nature and mankind can be sooooooooooooo complex and amazing all on its own, then it might disprove to me that there isn't a higher power. Thus far, I'm still waiting.
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Because they are not smart.
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Conrad73: not at ease with yourself,hmm?
I`m fine.Hexagon is the one with the problem.He thinks he is qualified to debate this subject with me. However, since he admits to telling a pack of lies which were clearly remembered by his colleague and which resulted in him being denied employment, it shows me that he definitely is not worth the effort to debate. I have zero tolerance for liars and will not waste my time debating ANY subject with them.
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Conrad73: not at ease with yourself,hmm?
I`m fine.Hexagon is the one with the problem.He thinks he is qualified to debate this subject with me. However, since he admits to telling a pack of lies which were clearly remembered by his colleague and which resulted in him being denied employment, it shows me that he definitely is not worth the effort to debate. I have zero tolerance for liars and will not waste my time debating ANY subject with them.
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Waterbearer63: Everybody knows that the myth of God starts with the Bible so to deny any mention of it when speaking of God is ridiculous.You earlier stated that you had studied for many years.Studying for years means nothing unless you actually comprehend what you`ve studied so telling me about all your years of study is irrelevant.I don`t know what you studied but I find your arguments poorly structured and completely illogical.Something I`ve noticed about you religious Sheeple is that you refuse to listen to anybody else`s arguments or try to understand their point of view.Quite frankly your lack of logic in your statements makes one question what it was you studied for years.Did you attain any type of a degree upon completion?.What institution did you study at?.How many years?.Have you written any papers?.Anything published?.Have you ever studied any of the Quantum Physics theories or do you even know what those are?.If you haven`t studied or don`t know what Quantum Physics is, then you`re way out of your league trying to debate the subject of why any God cannot exist with me.I await your response and will decide after reading it whether I deem you competent enough to continue our debate.
Is that Quantum-Physics or Quantum-Mysticism?So you want to tell us that you're an Expert in Quantum-Physics?
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In response to: Why do smart people believe in god?
Cos they´re well aware that he is there.
Ye can try and impress everyone with yer intelligence and knowledge, but he can floorya. HE´S the boss.
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HexagonKeySet: Personally, as I'm generally regarded as both smart and intelligent by those who know, I laugh (kindly) at you and draw your attention the the obvious fact, that The Earth, all life forms on this earth and indeed the entirety of The Universe run upon rules (lines) that have been devised by some Higher Power (God)
Furthermore, I do NOT regard 'unexpected' or 'unwanted' or 'unfortunate' effects as 'simply part of God's plan.
Nor do I attribute them to the vagaries of good or bad luck...
Rather, having studied extensively, I arrived at the conclusion that 'everything is connected to everything else' and that every thought, word or deed that I create becomes a 'cause set in motion' and will have an 'effect'.
That effect may be immediate (as if I place my hand on a hot stove top ) or, it may be a long delayed effect ( perhaps I told a series of lies to a colleague (Davina) some years ago and now, years later, I've just been refused a job I really wanted. Unknown to me that former colleague (Davina) remembers me, and she remembers the pack of lies I told then, so does not choose to trust me and employ me now.
It's also my direct experience that those individuals who refer to others as 'sheeple' are, when questioned found to be the most likely to fit that description themselves.
So, in language you will best understand baa baa, baa bbaaaa baaaaaa
;-)
Furthermore, I do NOT regard 'unexpected' or 'unwanted' or 'unfortunate' effects as 'simply part of God's plan.
Nor do I attribute them to the vagaries of good or bad luck...
Rather, having studied extensively, I arrived at the conclusion that 'everything is connected to everything else' and that every thought, word or deed that I create becomes a 'cause set in motion' and will have an 'effect'.
That effect may be immediate (as if I place my hand on a hot stove top ) or, it may be a long delayed effect ( perhaps I told a series of lies to a colleague (Davina) some years ago and now, years later, I've just been refused a job I really wanted. Unknown to me that former colleague (Davina) remembers me, and she remembers the pack of lies I told then, so does not choose to trust me and employ me now.
It's also my direct experience that those individuals who refer to others as 'sheeple' are, when questioned found to be the most likely to fit that description themselves.
So, in language you will best understand baa baa, baa bbaaaa baaaaaa
;-)
Pi...the perfect "rule" and rhythm of nature.
From a scientific standpoint, the theory of relativity states that energy cannot be destroyed, but transforms.
Science is a pre-existing intelligence that our mere minds only have a small understanding of. We don't create science, we simply evolve to a point of understanding concepts, and many times, by pure accident.
Science is the rules. The rules are intelligence beyond our mortal understanding.
I need no more "proof" that an Intelligent Energy beyond more human understanding exists based on my observations of scientific principles.
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Conrad73: Is that Quantum-Physics or Quantum-Mysticism?
So you want to tell us that you're an Expert in Quantum-Physics?
So you want to tell us that you're an Expert in Quantum-Physics?
Do you know anything about Quantum Physics?.If you don`t have at least a basic understanding of it then I have no interest in any further debate.
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ur points may be valid for religious people who blindly believe books and tales written long time ago .but some people like myself just believing higher power and that has nothing to do with my lifestyle.i m taking all responsibility in my life.and i dont think i m non intelliegent or sheeply by believing a Supreme Creator.and i dont think being an atheist is the sign of high intelliegence.Afterall no science can prove non existence of God.
How about we agree to disagree on this subject and leave it at that.