Kaybee50: But my favorite Scots...there will always be many people of faith/religion/spiritual who want and feel they are called, to serve, provide, use their skills and talents and means, to uplift, encourage, and help in anyway they are able, regardless of government.
Separation of church and state. If the state were in a position to care for every citizen of the world's needs, there would still be people with the yearning for community, a private place to come during their times of grief and joys and empowerment.
My dear Miss Ouri .... Thank goodness for good people, but IMO a government shouldn't have to rely on them, know what I mean. our money should be spent on our welfare not on their wars.
Kaybee50: Do you know how those groups are funded and what they expect to receive in return? What are these group's ultimate purpose?
They are self supporting through their own contributions. In AA the purpose is to stay sober and help others who are trying to do the same. In helping others to attain and maintain sobriety the alcoholic ensures their own sobriety. The old saying goes to keep it, you have to give it away.
For a more definitive answer they do have a website. It likely gives somewhere an overview of what AA is and what it isn' t.
Kaybee50: In my locale, they will accept anyone, yet provide a separate area for others' safety. And there are those that are simply too proud to seek the shelter and food, and every night there are people roaming the streets seeking them out to give them blankets, coats, boots, socks, hats, tents, gloves.
My goodness, that sounds like awesome support and effort. In some major U.S. cities, it's as if missions are actual thriving Industries, better that, than not. As was written, we'll have the poor with us always.
RDM59: My dear Miss Ouri .... Thank goodness for good people, but IMO a government shouldn't have to rely on them, know what I mean. our money should be spent on our welfare not on their wars.
Miss Ouri? Or is this Misery?
In a perfect world, there would be no war and every person on this planet would live in peace and harmony. I absolutely agree with you Sir Cheekster.
Until we evolve to that point, what some religious institutions can and do provide, isn't always a bad thing. Thank God for Mother Theresa and hospitals.
joey987: They are self supporting through their own contributions. In AA the purpose is to stay sober and help others who are trying to do the same. In helping others to attain and maintain sobriety the alcoholic ensures their own sobriety. The old saying goes to keep it, you have to give it away.
For a more definitive answer they do have a website. It likely gives somewhere an overview of what AA is and what it isn' t.
So, these programs don't receive any financial gains from those that attend, they fill a void and a need, and hopefully help people? And expect nothing in return.
CuddlingSoul: My goodness, that sounds like awesome support and effort. In some major U.S. cities, it's as if missions are actual thriving Industries, better that, than not. As was written, we'll have the poor with us always.
These shelters are mostly supported by the private contributions and time of volunteers.
In a perfect world, there would be no war and every person on this planet would live in peace and harmony. I absolutely agree with you Sir Cheekster.
Until we evolve to that point, what some religious institutions can and do provide, isn't always a bad thing. Thank God for Mother Theresa and hospitals.
I know I am being too much of an Aye-dealist but we do have the capacity to evolve but unfortunately I can't see it ever happening.
Kaybee50: So, these programs don't receive any financial gains from those that attend, they fill a void and a need, and hopefully help people? And expect nothing in return.
The programs receive voluntary contributions from it' s members(alcoholics) who attend meetings. It' s called the seventh tradition and it helps pay for rent, coffee, and literature. They decline monetary donations from outside enterprises. This way no politics are involved. No one can say, since we give you money to keep your group running, we are going to tell you how to run it.
I should mention as well, although it' s common for meeting places to be in church basements, AA is a spiritual program rather than a religious one.
Kaybee50: These shelters are mostly supported by the private contributions and time of volunteers.
True, Miss. The Baptist, The Catholics, The Presbyterians and others and they also establish Hospitals and Schools. The missions can also seek federal grants and funding and receive Government surplus foods. Tons of help in America. One just needs to stay clean and sober. Willing to volunteer in social programs and one will actually gain weight while living at a mission.
Hi KB, we have similar organisations which care for the poor and homeless, Simon Community, Penny Dinners, Meals on Wheels, etc. They do great good. Some were originally built up by religious people, some not. But it is humanity keeps them going.
yep.just do not brainwash people since they are infants and see if mafia/politic/terrorism/ and other kind of abusers can take advantage of conditioned victims of "god selling shops"
"If it wasn't for all the hysterical self righteous bullying that we've been subjected to in recent years, many of us might still be labouring under the illusion that religion is relatively harmless."
bodleing2: "If it wasn't for all the hysterical self righteous bullying that we've been subjected to in recent years, many of us might still be labouring under the illusion that religion is relatively harmless."
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Separation of church and state. If the state were in a position to care for every citizen of the world's needs, there would still be people with the yearning for community, a private place to come during their times of grief and joys and empowerment.
My dear Miss Ouri .... Thank goodness for good people, but IMO a government shouldn't have to rely on them, know what I mean. our money should be spent on our welfare not on their wars.